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Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« on: July 25, 2015, 03:05:26 AM »

Offline 86MaxwellSmart

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When I watch the National Broadcasts and I have to hear that Idiot Mark Jackson Pronounce players as the Best of all time...He says these things loudly, as though they were actual facts, not his opinions.

He's been stating for a couple of years, that LeBron is "The Greatest Passing Forward of all time"...Someone needs to shut this Jerk up---or maybe just show him this video of Larry Bird's passes....Passes that LeBron could not even dream about making, or even attempting.

Somehow, Larry Bird's Greatness has not only been overlooked, but has been purposely diminished by a lot of these Ex-Players, working on television....Here's a clip---and tell me that LeBron is the Greatest Passing Forward of all time...Screw you Mark "Agenda" Jackson--!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnRtgBGMl4
Larry Bird was Greater than you think.

Re: Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2015, 05:49:43 AM »

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Amen brother.  Thanks for the post - TP.  Brings back some seriously good memories.  The Birdman was amazing, and, hands down a better passer than Lebron.  Every one of those highlights was a thing of beauty.  What struck me, was that touch pass of his (if that's how to describe it), where he bats the ball off the dribble to a teammate. You rarely see that.

I was so spoiled as a teenager / young adult watching Larry play.  What a gift it was to enjoy that.

Thanks for the post.

Re: Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2015, 07:14:52 AM »

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Photo of bird and covens together ;D
Bird is one of the best passers at any position all time.  I'm not sure Lebron is better than Rick Barry as a passer.  Bird far above any forward

Re: Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2015, 07:34:00 AM »

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Mark who?   ;D

Re: Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2015, 08:39:55 AM »

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Mark Jackson has always been a mouthpiece for the league.   He promotes, he lauds the latest as the greatest.  I think he found he did not know as much basketball as he thought he did when he coached though last year.

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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2015, 08:41:20 AM »

Offline Rosco917

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seriously...not a surprise.

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2015, 08:53:59 AM »

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well to show we're not a biased bunch you should at least post a Lebron montage of passes so we can trash him properly.

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2015, 09:12:05 AM »

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Great thread. Mark Jackson sucks so bad. He does distort history with his "greatest passing Forward" rhetoric. I watch more NBA programming than a human needs to see. I have never, ever, heard one of the Warriors give any thanks to Mark Jackson. The guy is such an egomaniac he wore an all-black suit to a game in which his job was to coach others. It's also sucks listening to announcers bite their tongue when praising Kerr so's not to offend Jackson.

Zach Lowe on the subject: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/mark-jackson-fired-golden-state-warriors/ "Jackson went out of his way to point out, unsolicited and on the record, that it would be wrong to publicly credit any single assistant coach for the team’s transformation."
« Last Edit: July 25, 2015, 09:21:09 AM by Dedalus »

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Offline Chris22

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Lebron is the greatest traveling forward of all time.
He travels every single time he makes a move.
If they called his travels, and his offensive fouls, he wouldn't be half as effective as he is.

Re: Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2015, 10:10:21 AM »

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Mark Jackson, as much as he may try to fight it - is becoming a slave to modern thinking.

It is cool, trendy - to say that LeBron is the best passing forward of all time....I think that some of these announcers/sportscasters - want to feel as if the very best players at whatever - lived during THEIR time. Makes them feel relevant, I guess.

But as I look at youtube, LeBron doesn't have a category for "Best Passes"...he has some for "Best Plays"..."Best Dunks"......he is a very intelligent player and gifted distributor, but simply NOT in the same arena as Larry (Or Magic, for that matter).

IMO, I believe the best passer TODAY in the NBA is none other than THIS GUY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEmzgJ0IraY

And Rajon Rondo will once again prove that I'm hoping.


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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2015, 10:16:54 AM »

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But as I look at youtube, LeBron doesn't have a category for "Best Passes"

exactly the point I was getting at. someone show this post to Mark Jackson.

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2015, 10:19:06 AM »

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Can't stand that pompous ass.  When I hear his voice I want to puke.  Just like Obuma's.

Re: Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2015, 10:20:21 AM »

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Can't stand that pompous ass.  When I hear his voice I want to puke.  Just like Obuma's.

Wow man....you mean President Obama?

If I read you correctly, how did this become political lol?

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2015, 11:01:05 AM »

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I'm being completely serious when I say this so full disclosure:

...you have to remember the connotation between a white basketball player in the NBA. Just because Rodman and Thomas may be infamously known for their comments re: Larry (among other things) doesn't mean that there aren't more individuals like them who see Larry as white first, thus unfairly attributing expectations and rationale onto him because of his race, and a basketball player second.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson is cut from the same cloth. He's one of those guys who I believe thinks he's an all-timer simply because he played during one of the best basketball eras ever. He could only blame everyone else for his mistakes rather than himself as a coach. He mistook the coaching profession for that of a preacher and thought he deserved absolute autonomy. Like many other popular voices in basketball, his reputation is built off of things that happened many years ago and nothing relevant today.

I value the basketball-related opinions of "The Starters" a million times more than Jackson's.
Long-form is far from dead, but please refrain from paragraph-laden posts! Who wants to read that?!

Re: Annoyed by Mark Jackson
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2015, 11:49:57 AM »

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I'm being completely serious when I say this so full disclosure:

...you have to remember the connotation between a white basketball player in the NBA. Just because Rodman and Thomas may be infamously known for their comments re: Larry (among other things) doesn't mean that there aren't more individuals like them who see Larry as white first, thus unfairly attributing expectations and rationale onto him because of his race, and a basketball player second.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson is cut from the same cloth. He's one of those guys who I believe thinks he's an all-timer simply because he played during one of the best basketball eras ever. He could only blame everyone else for his mistakes rather than himself as a coach. He mistook the coaching profession for that of a preacher and thought he deserved absolute autonomy. Like many other popular voices in basketball, his reputation is built off of things that happened many years ago and nothing relevant today.

I value the basketball-related opinions of "The Starters" a million times more than Jackson's.

i really don't get why people consider the 90's to be such a great era for basketball. iwatched it back in the day, and in retrospect i see it as an era with a watered-down league full of expansion teams, where most teams barely had any stars.

look at those "great" knicks and pacers teams of the 90's... who was the second-best player on the pacers after reggie? they were role players. and reggie, while an amazing shooter, wasn't a physically dominant player.

same story with the knicks. ewing was very good but overrated because he was in NY, and the surrounding talent really wasn't that amazing. if they'd won a title, john starks would have been the second-best player on the team - he'd have easily been one of the worst #2 stars on any champion in history.

stockton and malone never had any help.

hakeem won his first championship with a mediocre team with no discernible #2.

the pistons disintegrated in the early 90's after having only one real star in isaiah.

barkeley got kicked around by the loaded celtics in the 80's, then floated around and never got any real help in the watered-down league later on.

the international talent level wasn't that great then, either.

IMO the media's obsession with michael jordan has driven this narrative that the 90's were so great. in reality, it was the perfect era for him to dominate - he had an elite sidekick in pippen, and because of expansion other teams were lucky to have even one legit star. though there were some amazing players in that era, the bulls didn't have any rivals with any real star depth.