Annoyed by Mark Jackson

[D.o.s.]

Mark Jackson is annoying because he often (pretty obviously) speaks in a way to create catch phrases.

The rest of the stuff in this thread, though, is hilarious.

[86MaxwellSmart]

I'm being completely serious when I say this so full disclosure:

...you have to remember the connotation between a white basketball player in the NBA. Just because Rodman and Thomas may be infamously known for their comments re: Larry (among other things) doesn't mean that there aren't more individuals like them who see Larry as white first, thus unfairly attributing expectations and rationale onto him because of his race, and a basketball player second.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson is cut from the same cloth. He's one of those guys who I believe thinks he's an all-timer simply because he played during one of the best basketball eras ever. He could only blame everyone else for his mistakes rather than himself as a coach. He mistook the coaching profession for that of a preacher and thought he deserved absolute autonomy. Like many other popular voices in basketball, his reputation is built off of things that happened many years ago and nothing relevant today.

I value the basketball-related opinions of "The Starters" a million times more than Jackson's.

I really didn't want to bring up the race card---but it seems pretty obvious...Because I also noticed that Magic Johnson gets way more love, as if he were better than Bird...Magic was on par with Larry---but he was NOT better....just because he had the good fortune of Not playing in the east--Magic won more rings.

[GetLucky]

Mark Jackson is annoying because he often (pretty obviously) speaks in a way to create catch phrases.

The rest of the stuff in this thread, though, is hilarious.

"HAND DOWN...









MAN DOWN! Give me GREAT offense over great DEFENSE any day of the week, and twice on leap years."

-Mark Jackson (probably)

[86MaxwellSmart]

I'm being completely serious when I say this so full disclosure:

...you have to remember the connotation between a white basketball player in the NBA. Just because Rodman and Thomas may be infamously known for their comments re: Larry (among other things) doesn't mean that there aren't more individuals like them who see Larry as white first, thus unfairly attributing expectations and rationale onto him because of his race, and a basketball player second.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson is cut from the same cloth. He's one of those guys who I believe thinks he's an all-timer simply because he played during one of the best basketball eras ever. He could only blame everyone else for his mistakes rather than himself as a coach. He mistook the coaching profession for that of a preacher and thought he deserved absolute autonomy. Like many other popular voices in basketball, his reputation is built off of things that happened many years ago and nothing relevant today.

I value the basketball-related opinions of "The Starters" a million times more than Jackson's.

i really don't get why people consider the 90's to be such a great era for basketball. iwatched it back in the day, and in retrospect i see it as an era with a watered-down league full of expansion teams, where most teams barely had any stars.

look at those "great" knicks and pacers teams of the 90's... who was the second-best player on the pacers after reggie? they were role players. and reggie, while an amazing shooter, wasn't a physically dominant player.

same story with the knicks. ewing was very good but overrated because he was in NY, and the surrounding talent really wasn't that amazing. if they'd won a title, john starks would have been the second-best player on the team - he'd have easily been one of the worst #2 stars on any champion in history.

stockton and malone never had any help.

hakeem won his first championship with a mediocre team with no discernible #2.

the pistons disintegrated in the early 90's after having only one real star in isaiah.

barkeley got kicked around by the loaded celtics in the 80's, then floated around and never got any real help in the watered-down league later on.

the international talent level wasn't that great then, either.

IMO the media's obsession with michael jordan has driven this narrative that the 90's were so great. in reality, it was the perfect era for him to dominate - he had an elite sidekick in pippen, and because of expansion other teams were lucky to have even one legit star. though there were some amazing players in that era, the bulls didn't have any rivals with any real star depth.

I try to tell younger people all the time, that Jordan was Very lucky that his prime came at just the right time...When Magic and Bird were coming to an end...No way Jordan wins as many rings, if he weren't in a watered down era, say like the Mid 1980's...This whole Jordan was the Greatest ever Brainwashing that has been going on for the past 20-25 years does great disservice to a ton of great players...But hey, they weren't signed by Nike.

[GetLucky]

I try to tell younger people all the time, that Jordan was Very lucky that his prime came at just the right time...When Magic and Bird were coming to an end...No way Jordan wins as many rings, if he weren't in a watered down era, say like the Mid 1980's...This whole Jordan was the Greatest ever Brainwashing that has been going on for the past 20-25 years does great disservice to a ton of great players...But hey, they weren't signed by Nike.

They had something better!
http://youtu.be/UIpa20ovA-A

[max215]

I can't stand Jackson. He adds nothing to broadcasts. I also don't understand why he was allowed to be on the crew that covered the Finals; he comes off as resentful toward the Warriors. I find it hilarious though that the Warriors went from a good team to a great team by ditching that hack.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Mark Jackson needs to preface his statements, with "In my opinion"....Instead of pronouncing them as if they were absolute facts....There are millions of young viewers he is influencing with his remarks....Larry Bird was a better Basketball player than LeBron, I've seen both many many times...LeBron has athleticism over him, but that's it my friends...When it comes to Basketball "skills", We shouldn't forget how GREAT Larry Bird was in every aspect of the game.

[GreenWarrior]

I'm being completely serious when I say this so full disclosure:

...you have to remember the connotation between a white basketball player in the NBA. Just because Rodman and Thomas may be infamously known for their comments re: Larry (among other things) doesn't mean that there aren't more individuals like them who see Larry as white first, thus unfairly attributing expectations and rationale onto him because of his race, and a basketball player second.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson is cut from the same cloth. He's one of those guys who I believe thinks he's an all-timer simply because he played during one of the best basketball eras ever. He could only blame everyone else for his mistakes rather than himself as a coach. He mistook the coaching profession for that of a preacher and thought he deserved absolute autonomy. Like many other popular voices in basketball, his reputation is built off of things that happened many years ago and nothing relevant today.

I value the basketball-related opinions of "The Starters" a million times more than Jackson's.

i really don't get why people consider the 90's to be such a great era for basketball. iwatched it back in the day, and in retrospect i see it as an era with a watered-down league full of expansion teams, where most teams barely had any stars.

look at those "great" knicks and pacers teams of the 90's... who was the second-best player on the pacers after reggie? they were role players. and reggie, while an amazing shooter, wasn't a physically dominant player.

same story with the knicks. ewing was very good but overrated because he was in NY, and the surrounding talent really wasn't that amazing. if they'd won a title, john starks would have been the second-best player on the team - he'd have easily been one of the worst #2 stars on any champion in history.

stockton and malone never had any help.

hakeem won his first championship with a mediocre team with no discernible #2.

the pistons disintegrated in the early 90's after having only one real star in isaiah.

barkeley got kicked around by the loaded celtics in the 80's, then floated around and never got any real help in the watered-down league later on.

the international talent level wasn't that great then, either.

IMO the media's obsession with michael jordan has driven this narrative that the 90's were so great. in reality, it was the perfect era for him to dominate - he had an elite sidekick in pippen, and because of expansion other teams were lucky to have even one legit star. though there were some amazing players in that era, the bulls didn't have any rivals with any real star depth.

while the 90's were pretty much all about the Bulls, and them winning it all was a given. I won't argue what era was better, but I will say during the 90's the playoffs(even being anti-climatic) it was pretty darn exciting. Pacers/Knicks, Seattle/Denver to name a couple.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Can't stand his style. Especially the ridiculous "hand down, MAN down."

[fmf2]

Jackson is an idiot and I watched most of the finals in mute because of him.

The thing I noticed in the highlight video is how Larry Bird established a culture of ball movement. His habits of passing and being selfless defined their style of play and everyone got on board. I have not seen that type of influence on a lebron led team, especially not this year...

[Gainesville Celtic]

That slap pass at 3:25 is my favorite Bird pass ever I think. Just love it.

And I agree w the earlier comment that Birds passing was contagious. That's why i always had a soft spot for those 90s Kings teams -- Cwebb, Divac, Jwill reminded me of those 80s celtics.   

Lebron *is* a very good passer, but not on Birds level.

Tough for me bc I always loved Jackson's game when he played -- and he *does* know a thing or 2 about passing.

I tend to believe his comments are more driven -- like w most announcers -- (a) a recentcy (sp?) bias: ie the thing today is the best and (b) the attention they get for making outlandish claims. Lots of announcers (white and black) do both of these all the time.

[celticmania]

Larry Bird was definitely more flashy and creative with his passes but Lebron James has higher assist numbers. Probably because he was able to get in to the paint and draw in the defense better than Bird.  Who cares if Jackson thinks Lebron is a better passer. It's an OPINION

[BlackCeltic]

I love Mark Jackson. He is a million times less annoying than Bill Walton who does the same darn thing.

[BlackCeltic]

Can't stand his style. Especially the ridiculous "hand down, MAN down."

I love it.

[BlackCeltic]

Mark Jackson needs to preface his statements, with "In my opinion"....Instead of pronouncing them as if they were absolute facts....There are millions of young viewers he is influencing with his remarks....Larry Bird was a better Basketball player than LeBron, I've seen both many many times...LeBron has athleticism over him, but that's it my friends...When it comes to Basketball "skills", We shouldn't forget how GREAT Larry Bird was in every aspect of the game.

Thats your opinion.