Bulpett: Boston & Denver discussed Danilo Gallinari deal, conflicting sources

[saltlover]

wouldnt Bradley have to be in the equation for contracts to work out? Gallo makes around 11m, i'd think you'd need to do a combo of Bradley + Sully or ET.

Not necessarily.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=oockemd

That one works. Alternatively, Zeller could replace Sully as outgoing salary.

The C's are under the cap by a decent amount.  They need to send out just a shade over $3.4 million in salary to have room for Gallo.  Turner alone would work salary-wise.

[Evantime34]

I think Sullinger is a player who will come into the year in shape and play well. I don't think we should deal him now, because his value will be higher at the deadline.

If we are going to deal for Gallo, I don't want to give up a ton because he's a free agent at the end of the year. Danny said that he isn't going to make the team's talent worse in order to clear up a log jam, so I'm confident Danny won't give up a ton for Gallo, when they could go after him next offseason.

After giving it some thought, I'm fine with the roster we have now. I think one of Zeller and Olynyk will get squeezed from the rotation early, but there are always injuries in the NBA so everyone will get their chance. With Johnson/Lee being older maybe they will give them days of rest off where the guy squeezed out of the rotation will shine.

[LooseCannon]

Sounds like Ainge is probably giving Denver a lowball offer and the Nuggets aren't going around shopping Gallinari, but aren't hanging up the phone on people who inquire, either.

[fubar089]

I'm not the biggest AB fan but I wouldn't be in a real hurry to move him(& his cap friendly deal) for an injury prone one year rental. Bradley's literally the only serviceable SG we have on the roster atm.

[Mencius]

Moving Sully makes more sense than moving AB (we're more flush at PF/big than we are at anyone ready to take over AB's minutes at the 2).  I would not give up that much for Gallo anyway.  He was a pretty good offensive player for awhile, but was always pretty bad on defense, and that was before he blew out an ACL and missed all of 13/14.  He came back last year and put up career low numbers.  It should not take all that much to get this guy, and if it does, then just say no.  His numbers last year:

Gallinari, a 6-foot-10 small forward, is coming off the worst statistical season of his career, having posted the lowest point-per-game (12.4) and rebound-per-game (3.7) averages since his rookie season and his worst field-goal percentage (40.1 percent) yet. Injuries also have been an issue for the 26-year-old Italian, as he’s appeared in more than 60 games in a season just twice and missed the entire 2013-14 campaign with a torn ACL. He played 59 games for Denver this past season, starting 27.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/07/report-celtics-nuggets-discussed-trade-for-denvers-danilo-gallinari/

[mmmmm]

Sounds like Ainge is probably giving Denver a lowball offer and the Nuggets aren't going around shopping Gallinari, but aren't hanging up the phone on people who inquire, either.

Yeah, that sounds like a fair assessment.

[JBcat]

Gallo does provide us more upside at SF but he still isn't a star. He only played 59 games last year at 24 MPG.  We are stacked with bigs so I would do let's say Zeller, Turner, and maybe a second pround pick for Gallo.  Zeller at the very least is a very solid backup C or serviceable starter, and Turner for all the flack he gets here played very well for us the second half of the season.  I think that's fair. 

I wouldn't trade Bradley just yet. Only when or if one of the younger unproven players shows he can play at least at Bradley's level.

[The One]

Has Bulpett put up anything credible before??

I know woj has on many occasions. Stein did a few weeks ago with lee

He is very credible, and not one to throw around false rumors; more likely to throw cold water on them.

More reliable than Chris Broussard sources.

That's like being the tallest dwarf in the room.

[SHAQATTACK]

Hate the dude ......his game is long gone .....not returning either .......dead meat .....

Let Gallo alone .......do not want ....do not need ......we have Amir, Zeller , Sully , and Lee .....have Mickey waiting . Maybe Holmes .


Damaged goods.....no no no

[goCeltics]

And combo of bradley, turner and sully i would approve, i wouldn't be against giving some draft picks, c's have 4 potential first rounders and about 5 potential second rounders in next years draft people

I think bulpett is tight with ainge

[Quetzalcoatl]

Gallo does provide us more upside at SF but he still isn't a star. He only played 59 games last year at 24 MPG.  We are stacked with bigs so I would do let's say Zeller, Turner, and maybe a second pround pick for Gallo.  Zeller at the very least is a very solid backup C or serviceable starter, and Turner for all the flack he gets here played very well for us the second half of the season.  I think that's fair. 

I wouldn't trade Bradley just yet. Only when or if one of the younger unproven players shows he can play at least at Bradley's level.

He was playing like a star at the end of the season.   He had some big, big games for the Nuggets.  Pretty good 3 pt shooter as well. 

Here is an article about his stretch from the all-star break to March 13th: http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_27702746/gallinari-starring-down-stretch

"He has scored 20 or more points in five of the past 12 games, after doing so just once in the first 35 games."

Also, he had a 47 point game a month after that.  I think he could be really good in the right system.  He's not that bad defensively, either.  This guy would absolutely win us some games, although he would definitely not win us a title. 

[hodgy03038]

And combo of bradley, turner and sully i would approve, i wouldn't be against giving some draft picks, c's have 4 potential first rounders and about 5 potential second rounders in next years draft people

I think bulpett is tight with ainge

No need for Sully and picks. I think Bradley would have to go for salary purposes & ET but nothing else unless it's Pressey or Babb or Marcus Thornton.

[Celtics4ever]

I think Sullinger is a player who will come into the year in shape and play well. I don't think we should deal him now, because his value will be higher at the deadline.

Did you see the video posted of him this summer?  He actually looked slimmer.   But he was still slow moving like he was underwater and taking lazy shots.   That does not bode well for him and his athletic base is low.   

I think Mickey will swat the crap out of him at practices down low.  Mickey can actually front him and there would be little Sully could do because Mickey can jump up and get the lob and react by blocking him from behind with his leaping and arms.  This may drive him to shoot even more outside something he is not very good at.   

Now Sully at least is a proven NBA player, who can't play D well at this level.  It remains to be seen if Mickey will do that but if he makes the roster, he will make Sully's life hack in practice.  Ditto for KO.  It will either force them to improve or shatter their confidence.   I don't think that happens in Sully's case, as he already thinks he is all world.   But that could really hurt Kelly.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'd like to ask if there are details of this?

Are we going to use Bradley's contract to match salaries? If so, I'll hop aboard. Bradley, KO/Sully, Young, 2nd rounder maybe? Give me Gallinari.

[saltlover]

I'd like to ask if there are details of this?

Are we going to use Bradley's contract to match salaries? If so, I'll hop aboard. Bradley, KO/Sully, Young, 2nd rounder maybe? Give me Gallinari.

As said in other threads, the C's would only need to send our $3.4 mil in salaries to have room for Gallo.  So that's anyone who makes as much money as Evan Turner,  or any two player who make less (except for Pressey/Babb). In other words, it's very easy to make salaries work.