Bulpett: Boston & Denver discussed Danilo Gallinari deal, conflicting sources

[kraidstar]

gallo is a career .416 shooter who plays little defense.

he hasn't shot over .423 in any season since his rookie year.

he's also often injured.

his per-36 stats are similar to jerebko's, but jerebko shoots at a higher career clip (.465) despite playing on a much worse team for most of those years.

i see zero reason to give up anything of value for this guy. he's a decent 3-pt shooter and a good rebounder for his position, but he brings little else to the table. giving up a brooklyn pick (potentially high lottery) would be sacramento-level stupid.

[knuckleballer]

Gallinari played well late in the year.  He averaged 18.6 ppg after the allstar break and 22.6 ppg in 6 games in April.  The Celtics need a SF who can score so this makes a lot of sense to me. 

[gpap]

gallo is a career .416 shooter who plays little defense.

he hasn't shot over .423 in any season since his rookie year.

he's also often injured.

his per-36 stats are similar to jerebko's, but jerebko shoots at a higher career clip (.465) despite playing on a much worse team for most of those years.

i see zero reason to give up anything of value for this guy. he's a decent 3-pt shooter and a good rebounder for his position, but he brings little else to the table. giving up a brooklyn pick (potentially high lottery) would be sacramento-level stupid.

As is the case with the entire NBA according to CB.

[hodgy03038]

gallo is a career .416 shooter who plays little defense.

he hasn't shot over .423 in any season since his rookie year.

he's also often injured.

his per-36 stats are similar to jerebko's, but jerebko shoots at a higher career clip (.465) despite playing on a much worse team for most of those years.

i see zero reason to give up anything of value for this guy. he's a decent 3-pt shooter and a good rebounder for his position, but he brings little else to the table. giving up a brooklyn pick (potentially high lottery) would be sacramento-level stupid.

As is the case with the entire NBA according to CB.

More than 1/2 are 3 pt attempts in which he shoots .355. That being said that's a pretty good FG%. Plus he rebounds.

[gpap]

Not sure why all the flack for Gallo.  He fits a need our team has, getting buckets.

Would imagine the discussion is centered on KO or Sully.  Along with Pressey or Babb I think that's all the salary we'd need to send back, making this a nice salary dump for Denver.  Is that enough for them?  Probably not.  Guessing Ainge wants to give them Turner & a pick instead, which if was the case, Denver should walk away from. 

None the less, hopefully sides can each get what they need.  Gallo would fit in nicely on our team of young vets.

If that's the case than Ainge is a bigger moron than I thought.

We have a surplus of PF's. Why wouldn't he deal KO or Sully? Could be because Denver just doesn't want to deal Gallo or isn't interested in what we have

They will probably want a player who they can build around or a draft pick which gives them a shot at getting such a player.  If I were Denver, at least one Brooklyn first would have to be part of the asking price.

No Brooklyn pick. We will survive without him if that's the asking price.

Would be willing to do it for their center, Nurkic

[knuckleballer]

Gallinari played well late in the year.  He averaged 18.6 ppg after the all-star break and 22.6 ppg in 6 games in April.  The Celtics need a SF who can score so this makes a lot of sense to me.  I don't know what Denver wants, but I would guess Sully would be a part of it.  Throw in Turner and a pair of seconds and that would be great.  I'm sure Denver wants more, but for arguments sake, let's go with that and look at the roster.

Smart Rozier
IT Bradley Hunter   
Gallo Crowder Young
Lee Olynyk Jerekbo Mickey
Johnson Zeller

That would be a lot of fun to watch and they still have a lot of financial flexibility, youth, and draft picks.  Stevens would have a lot of options for lineups which would be interesting to see play out.

[Smartacus]

Some people in this discussion are calling this an over pay. I think it's pretty clear that this is a consolidation of redundant assets.

When your bargaining with redundant assets the other team knows that they are the one's dealing from the position of strength. It means you have to include 2 or 3 extra assets to appease them and not make it look like Danny took them too the cleaners.

AB is a good young player on a fair contract. He is also one of 4 guards under 6'4 who has a case for making this roster. They also have Gary Harris who was a higher touted prospect than AB.

Sullinger very soon could be better than Gallo(in many ways he already is) but he plays at the most stacked position in the league and one where the we already have 4 other players vying for minutes.

Evan Turner showed he can be strong shot creator both for himself and others but he takes up so many touches of the offense to be effective that a team has to decide whether they want to dictate that kind of attention to a player that has basically no more room to improve. Look's like they already have a dynamic wing in Mudiay anyways, although to be fair it might not be a bad idea to have 1 year of ET to bridge the Mudiay's rookie season.

Nobody wants to be the GM who gave up a valuable contributor for someone else's scraps. In trades like this you have to overpay to push the deal through. I'm just glad it's not Masai Ujiri that we're up against any more.

[tankcity!]

There is no indication this deal is even close to being done. Don't set yourselves up for false hope again. We know Danny has been having trouble closing recently. 

[gpap]

By the way, are the Celts still interested in Ty Lawson? Sounds like he may be more attainable then Gallo.

[chambers]

gallo is a career .416 shooter who plays little defense.

he hasn't shot over .423 in any season since his rookie year.

he's also often injured.

his per-36 stats are similar to jerebko's, but jerebko shoots at a higher career clip (.465) despite playing on a much worse team for most of those years.

i see zero reason to give up anything of value for this guy. he's a decent 3-pt shooter and a good rebounder for his position, but he brings little else to the table. giving up a brooklyn pick (potentially high lottery) would be sacramento-level stupid.

Gallo shoots a career 46% from 2 point land, but over 50% of his shots per game are from 3 point land. His defense is okay. His size is good he's good for an offense like ours where he doesn't have to create his own offense to score.

I agree that I wouldn't give up much for him given his expiring status and his injury history.
Right now I'd imagine this is a game of chicken between Ainge and the Nuggets. Ainge wants an upgrade at the SF, and the Nuggets want to tank whilst getting as much as possible for Gallinari before they hit rock bottom.

Ainge won't give up too much for Gallo and he'll be telling the Nuggets that he's got Crowder and Turner so it's no big loss.

Only problem for Ainge here is that the Nuggets may wait till the trade deadline incase teams need a starting caliber SF to replace an already injured star for a playoff run. (Durant, P George, Wizards might need some help etc).

Not sure what Ainge gives up salary wise. Would need to send out about 7 million to get it done.

[gpap]

If Gallo isn't available, another scoring wing I'd make a play for Nick Young.

.........and cue the "but he doesn't play any defense."

[Hemingway]

I don't know what Denver's point of view is. But I wonder if they might want to save money. That's the best thing we can offer because as soon as we trade for Lee we are back over the cap(or not under it enough to give a team 7 mil in savings) Something like Sully and Babb might work (can't get the trade machines to work.) They could have Turner too. For us taking on money doesn't matter as we will have to add money next year and the year after just to reach the salary floor. Might as well try to get some more talent.

[BudweiserCeltic]

If Gallo isn't available, another scoring wing I'd make a play for Nick Young.

.........and cue the "but he doesn't play any defense."

Right on cue I come....

He sucks, period.

[Smartacus]

There is no indication this deal is even close to being done. Don't set yourselves up for false hope again. We know Danny has been having trouble closing recently. 

The Garnett deal was dead in the water at one point before Danny saved it.

The Courtney Lee acquisition took weeks to complete.

Isaiah chose the Suns over us in free agency but finished the first year of his contract in green.

We lost Love because Cleveland got the first pick in the draft despite having only a 1.7% chance to win it.

We lost Justise Winslow because Rich Cho and Jordan reeeeeeeeally like Frank Kaminski.

We lost Cousins because The Kings found one person in the organization(Divac) that realizes how much of a step backwards it would be to trade him and turn the team into a George Karl platoon squad.

Acquiring high end talent takes patience, just because Danny's run into some brick walls lately doesn't mean I don't want him trying every time a player that can help us becomes available and when he does we're going to follow it. We're not getting are hopes up, we're evaluating why or why not the deal makes sense.

[BitterJim]

If Gallo isn't available, another scoring wing I'd make a play for Nick Young.

.........and cue the "but he doesn't play any defense."

I'd be more concerned about his inability to play offense