Deron Williams negotiating release to play with Dallas, consequences for Celtics' picks [Merged]

[tazzmaniac]

Reports were he's getting $25-$30 million of the $43 million he's owed.  Won't really help the Nets out this year.  Next year it might give them more flexibility.  Depends of Lopez stays healthy enough to be a lure.  I think it's the right thing for the Nets -- take their medicine for a year, clear the books, and try again next year.

Just saw that it's $27.5 mil. I wonder if there's an option to spread that over five years, or they simply stay with the two years.

Money from DAL lessens that cap hit each year by $5 mil. So it looks like the Nets may have slashed around $13 mil or so off this year's cap situation?

It is reported to be stretched over 5 seasons so the cap hit each season is only 5.5mil.  The Nets are apparently under the luxury tax now.

Wow. So with DAL paying Williams $5 mil for each of the next two seasons, the Nets basically erased that deal from their books for this year and next.

$43 mil just vanished off the Nets books.

I'd think the set-off rights were waived as part of the buyout.  Otherwise it would reduce how much Deron actually gets. 
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q66 

[TwinTower14]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Yea he is insane! He is playing for team USA now and dominating! He is fully recovered from his acl. When he was a freshman, many scouts had him rated higher than Wiggins. Him and Tatum are a package deal for college. It's either unc, duke or Kentucky. He will be the top pick in the 17 draft.

[Cman]

wow, those picks are gaining value by the day... hopefully the next shoe to drop is joe johnosn getting dumped as well.

IF cousins becomes available, suddenly we have a much nicer and more immediate platter of assets to offer in a trade.

Yes, but this will be more apparent mid-year, not over the next couple of weeks.

[konkmv]

There is a possibility we could end up with 3 lottery picks next year... we are no lock for playoffs

[MJohnnyboy]

There is a possibility we could end up with 3 lottery picks next year... we are no lock for playoffs

4 actually.
There's us (Not counting on it)
Brooklyn (unprotected)
Dallas (top-7 protected)
Minnesota (top-12 protected. Not likely, but still possible)

[tazzmaniac]

There is a possibility we could end up with 3 lottery picks next year... we are no lock for playoffs

Four actually if the TWolves pick is 13th or 14th. 

[Denis998]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Ill raise you a Thon Maker
https://youtu.be/z-VFbiqe0kQ

[MJohnnyboy]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Ill raise you a Thon Maker
https://youtu.be/z-VFbiqe0kQ

Its vids like these that make me kinda wish that Dallas does make it in the top 7 so that their pick would roll over for next year. 2017 is supposed to be loaded. 2016 is supposedly going to be weak outside of Simmons.

[Denis998]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Ill raise you a Thon Maker
https://youtu.be/z-VFbiqe0kQ

Its vids like these that make me kinda wish that Dallas does make it in the top 7 so that their pick would roll over for next year. 2017 is supposed to be loaded. 2016 is supposedly going to be weak outside of Simmons.

Hard to say next year is going to be shallow. I do agree though as of right now there isn't much top talent, however start of next NCAA season things might change. There is a guard I like, but I think that we are set in that department.

[knuckleballer]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Ill raise you a Thon Maker
https://youtu.be/z-VFbiqe0kQ

I'm banking on the Memphis pick in 2020.   

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPeKBRq37E

[Denis998]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Ill raise you a Thon Maker
https://youtu.be/z-VFbiqe0kQ

I'm banking on the Memphis pick in 2020.   

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPeKBRq37E

And I thought I was tall in 8th grade....lol

[JoeyAinge]

There is a possibility we could end up with 3 lottery picks next year... we are no lock for playoffs

4 actually.
There's us (Not counting on it)
Brooklyn (unprotected)
Dallas (top-7 protected)
Minnesota (top-12 protected. Not likely, but still possible)

West Playoffs

OKC
Clippers
Spurs
Houston
Memphis
new orleans
Sacramento
Minnesota

we end up with 4 picks ?.

[knuckleballer]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Ill raise you a Thon Maker
https://youtu.be/z-VFbiqe0kQ

I'm banking on the Memphis pick in 2020.   

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPeKBRq37E

And I thought I was tall in 8th grade....lol

Just imagine being a middle school center, walking into the gym, and realizing you have to face off against this kid.   

[mef730]

For those who are hoping for JJ to get traded, it won't happen. The reason why they waived Williams was so that they didn't have to trade Johnson so they could get under the tax. Johnson was the only one of the two who actually had some trade value.

Not that it matters. JJ is going on 35 and is on the decline. JJ or no JJ, the Nets are a Lopez injury from giving the Celtics a top 10 pick.

The Nets are going to be real bad the next two seasons. What a heist by Ainge, I says it's probable the C's get a top 8 pick, with a outside shot at top 3 if things break their way. The 17 draft will be special. Giles, Smith, Thon and Tatum etc...It's a loaded class.

NASTY! The ball handling and athleticism is insane when you consider he's a 6-10/230 PF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

Ill raise you a Thon Maker
https://youtu.be/z-VFbiqe0kQ

Its vids like these that make me kinda wish that Dallas does make it in the top 7 so that their pick would roll over for next year. 2017 is supposed to be loaded. 2016 is supposedly going to be weak outside of Simmons.

Hard to say next year is going to be shallow. I do agree though as of right now there isn't much top talent, however start of next NCAA season things might change. There is a guard I like, but I think that we are set in that department.

Agreed. I'm not writing off next year yet. But it is too bad that we only have one pick in 2017.

Mike

[tazzmaniac]

There is a possibility we could end up with 3 lottery picks next year... we are no lock for playoffs

4 actually.
There's us (Not counting on it)
Brooklyn (unprotected)
Dallas (top-7 protected)
Minnesota (top-12 protected. Not likely, but still possible)

West Playoffs

OKC
Clippers
Spurs
Houston
Memphis
new orleans
Sacramento
Minnesota

we end up with 4 picks ?.

You might want to add GSW.