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Ainge's Offer for the 9th Pick
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:38:38 AM »

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Heard Celtics offered 4 picks (at least 3 of them 1st-round) for No. 9. Both firsts yesterday, assume Dal protected and another protected.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 11:40:22 AM »

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https://twitter.com/jimmy_toscano/status/614448402617790464

@Jimmy_Toscano: Heard Celtics offered 4 picks (at least 3 of them 1st-round) for No. 9. Both firsts yesterday, assume Dal protected and another protected.

Is everyone cool with that? That is a pretty huge price.
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Re: Ainge's Offer for the 9th Pick
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 11:47:46 AM »

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Wow, can't say Danny didn't try.

Re: Toscana Tweet RE: Terms of Charlotte Rejected Trade
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If they turned that down, I'm glad Danny stopped negotiating.  Any more than that would be an awful deal
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Re: Toscana Tweet RE: Terms of Charlotte Rejected Trade
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 11:48:57 AM »

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I imagine Charlotte was holding out for one of the Brooklyn picks.

I would have offered #16, BRK's 2016 pick, and Bradley.


Lots of people around here placing a lot of hopes on those BRK picks, but in a weak East it's always more likely a pick will end up in the middle than at the top or bottom of the draft.  This draft had a strong top 10 and was very weak everywhere else, so paying a premium for a pick in that range made sense.


Having all of these first round picks has diminishing returns.  We only have so much roster space for role players on rookie deals.  Other teams know that, which is why they're going to try and squeeze Danny for multiple picks in every deal.
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Re: Toscana Tweet RE: Terms of Charlotte Rejected Trade
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 11:49:11 AM »

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https://twitter.com/jimmy_toscano/status/614448402617790464

@Jimmy_Toscano: Heard Celtics offered 4 picks (at least 3 of them 1st-round) for No. 9. Both firsts yesterday, assume Dal protected and another protected.

Is everyone cool with that? That is a pretty huge price.

I'm not at all cool with that. Way too much.

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Re: Ainge's Offer for the 9th Pick
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 11:49:26 AM »

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And if we didn't make the playoffs, we wouldn't have needed to offer any
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 11:52:23 AM »

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Michael Jordan is a jerk.
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Heard Celtics offered 4 picks (at least 3 of them 1st-round) for No. 9. Both firsts yesterday, assume Dal protected and another protected.


Why should Jordan have taken that deal, if he was a fan of the player he picked?  What's so overwhelming about that trade offer?


When people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate each other.

Re: Ainge's Offer for the 9th Pick
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 11:56:28 AM »

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And if we didn't make the playoffs, we wouldn't have needed to offer any

Shhhhh....  Reality is like a 4 letter word to some people in here.   ;D

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 11:58:52 AM »

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And if we didn't make the playoffs, we wouldn't have needed to offer any
We also wouldn't have had Isaiah. I can understand wishing they hadn't made the trade, but at some point you have to stop harping on something that is in the past and won't be changed.

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Heard Celtics offered 4 picks (at least 3 of them 1st-round) for No. 9. Both firsts yesterday, assume Dal protected and another protected.


Why should Jordan have taken that deal, if he was a fan of the player he picked?  What's so overwhelming about that trade offer?
Four firsts to move up 7 spots? When Kaminsky probably would have been there at 12? He probably could have made that trade then traded back up to 12 and still net a first round pick in the deal.
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Re: Ainge's Offer for the 9th Pick
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 12:00:39 PM »

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How could you say yes to that over-whelming, over-the-top, desperate trade offer?

Because FRANK THE TANK.

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My guess is it was a good offer until some guys who were projected to go higher fell and became available.

Re: Toscana Tweet RE: Terms of Charlotte Rejected Trade
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 12:14:43 PM »

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I imagine Charlotte was holding out for one of the Brooklyn picks.

I would have offered #16, BRK's 2016 pick, and Bradley.


Lots of people around here placing a lot of hopes on those BRK picks, but in a weak East it's always more likely a pick will end up in the middle than at the top or bottom of the draft.  This draft had a strong top 10 and was very weak everywhere else, so paying a premium for a pick in that range made sense.


Having all of these first round picks has diminishing returns.  We only have so much roster space for role players on rookie deals.  Other teams know that, which is why they're going to try and squeeze Danny for multiple picks in every deal.

You do realize that other teams are going to get stronger, unlike the Nets who seem to be losing talent.

Re: Toscana Tweet RE: Terms of Charlotte Rejected Trade
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 12:17:22 PM »

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I imagine Charlotte was holding out for one of the Brooklyn picks.

I would have offered #16, BRK's 2016 pick, and Bradley.


Lots of people around here placing a lot of hopes on those BRK picks, but in a weak East it's always more likely a pick will end up in the middle than at the top or bottom of the draft.  This draft had a strong top 10 and was very weak everywhere else, so paying a premium for a pick in that range made sense.


Having all of these first round picks has diminishing returns.  We only have so much roster space for role players on rookie deals.  Other teams know that, which is why they're going to try and squeeze Danny for multiple picks in every deal.

You do realize that other teams are going to get stronger, unlike the Nets who seem to be losing talent.

In my experience, in life and not just sports, having to rely on the competition's ineptitude to benefit you is always less than ideal.

Re: Toscana Tweet RE: Terms of Charlotte Rejected Trade
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 12:17:26 PM »

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If they turned that down, I'm glad Danny stopped negotiating.  Any more than that would be an awful deal

This helps.

Still weird to draft Rozier at #16, but this set on info helps me get over it a little quicker.
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