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Offline perks-a-beast

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Finally! Danny admits his mistake with Marcus Banks 2.0 and moves him. Time to move on.
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SMH, can anyone name a rookie that made more game winning plays than Smart last year?

TP. Smart made clutch plays when they counted the most ala Dennis Johnson. The fact that someone would call him Marcus Banks makes me lose faith in the modern NBA fanbase.

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Boston desperately need a franchise prospect ... That's not smart. I like smart though

So we should just hurriedly deal guys who aren't going to be franchise guys but could very well make an All-Star team for a guy that might have the potential to be a franchise guy?

Edit: ... but probably won't ever be, like Smart?
I had smart 8th on my board last year and he ended up worse than I thought he'd be. I like him a lot, but I give him up if we can get a franchise prospect.



You're the only one in the world who thinks any of that. And tell me this, if you had him 8th on your board (ha!) and he ended up 6th in All-Rookie voting, how in the hell did he end worse than you thought he'd be? Ridiculousness.
Heh... If you wouldn't trade smart for embiid or Jabari Parker right now, you're cray.  So spare me his "6th in rookie voting" thing.  I had him 8th on my board.  I sAw him as an NBA ready guy who would average 15, 5 and 5 out of the gate, be a top 4 rookie, but long term others would surpass him.  I was disappointed with his rookie campaign.  Great defensive player though.  I'd move him for someone with star potential.

Well I think I know where your problem lies lol There was no way he was going to average that given the circumstances and context of our team this year.

I would HATE to give up Smart in a trade, but I would definitely do it for a franchise talent like Parker. I'm not as sure with Embiid with his injury.
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Offline BDeCosta26

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Finally! Danny admits his mistake with Marcus Banks 2.0 and moves him. Time to move on.

That's what we've been telling you for the whole year, move on! Yet your infatuation and persistence with name dropping "Marcus Banks 2.0" has been undeterred.

You still haven't told me why he isn't Banks 2.0. Hes Banks with a poor man TA's defense. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so since the Celtics are going to give him away to move up. Randle recently WOWED people in his workout in LA. I don't like saying the Lakers have a better future, it pains me. But Danny screwed up bad. It worked out even better that he missed all of last year too. Thats a good thing. It didn't hurt his value one bit and gave him an opportunity to really grow and adjust. He's going to have a better season than Banks 2.0. Better career too when Banks 2.0 plays with Banks 1.0 in China in 4 years.

In what parallel universe is this true?

The same universe where he is still rated as a higher prospect in execs eyes than Banks 2.0 is. Its called reality. Randle is just a much better player overall. Can't teach his post moves or size.

His size?! He's undersized for a PF, and he can't play defense in a game that's placing a premium on two way players. As of right now, Smart is more valuable and the fact you would even suggest Randle is just adds to the reasons why we don't think your actually a Celtic fan.

Smart can be the centerpiece of a Cousins trade, along with a Brooklyn pick or two. Randle couldn't be. That's a horrendous statement.
If wed taken Randle I have a feeling CB8883 would be moaning about how we took a poor mans sullinger and how we are completely doomed and should have taken the defensive phenom Marcus Smart.

That's exactly what he'd be doing. That dude is just ridiculous. I feel very strongly that people shouldn't be banned for having a different view, but he makes me wish there was a rule against over the top annoyance.

Smart proved that he's an absolute defensive menace and that his jump shot is improving to the point that it must be respected. That's all Stevens wanted him to do. We were trying to win games. Smart wasn't gonna be running the show being the primary ball-handler yet, you'd win less games that way because his offense isn't fully developed yet. But his defense is so good it commands major PT. He proved that he can certainly be in the conversation for DPOY when he hits his prime, and his offense is already better than Tony Allen's is. TA is one of the most important players on that Memphis team. Even of Smart becomes a better version of TA, that's a dang good player especially come playoff time.

Smart is only going out in a trade if it nets us Cousins or Okafor/maybe Porzingas. LA doesn't wanna include Randle cause he's the only other asset they have, but he's just an extra. The centerpiece is the #2 pick.

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Boston desperately need a franchise prospect ... That's not smart. I like smart though

So we should just hurriedly deal guys who aren't going to be franchise guys but could very well make an All-Star team for a guy that might have the potential to be a franchise guy?

Edit: ... but probably won't ever be, like Smart?
I had smart 8th on my board last year and he ended up worse than I thought he'd be. I like him a lot, but I give him up if we can get a franchise prospect.



You're the only one in the world who thinks any of that. And tell me this, if you had him 8th on your board (ha!) and he ended up 6th in All-Rookie voting, how in the hell did he end worse than you thought he'd be? Ridiculousness.
Heh... If you wouldn't trade smart for embiid or Jabari Parker right now, you're cray.  So spare me his "6th in rookie voting" thing.  I had him 8th on my board.  I sAw him as an NBA ready guy who would average 15, 5 and 5 out of the gate, be a top 4 rookie, but long term others would surpass him.  I was disappointed with his rookie campaign. 

As I believe has been pointed out to you before, averaging 15, 5 and 5 as a rookie puts you in Chris Paul/Russell Westbrook/Derrick Rose territory as a point guard.  If you had Smart 8th and your board but expected him to produce those numbers, you've just proven that you really don't understand the game of basketball.

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Offline BlackCeltic

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Finally! Danny admits his mistake with Marcus Banks 2.0 and moves him. Time to move on.
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SMH, can anyone name a rookie that made more game winning plays than Smart last year?

TP. Smart made clutch plays when they counted the most ala Dennis Johnson. The fact that someone would call him Marcus Banks makes me lose faith in the modern NBA fanbase.

I am really disgusted right now. And thats disappointing on such an exciting day as draft day. I wouldnt change a thing about last years draft decision to take Smart. Whoever ends up with him is going to get a pitbull with unmatched competiveness for years to come. And I would honestly dread anytime we'd have to face him.

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Boston desperately need a franchise prospect ... That's not smart. I like smart though

So we should just hurriedly deal guys who aren't going to be franchise guys but could very well make an All-Star team for a guy that might have the potential to be a franchise guy?

Edit: ... but probably won't ever be, like Smart?
I had smart 8th on my board last year and he ended up worse than I thought he'd be. I like him a lot, but I give him up if we can get a franchise prospect.



You're the only one in the world who thinks any of that. And tell me this, if you had him 8th on your board (ha!) and he ended up 6th in All-Rookie voting, how in the hell did he end worse than you thought he'd be? Ridiculousness.
Heh... If you wouldn't trade smart for embiid or Jabari Parker right now, you're cray.  So spare me his "6th in rookie voting" thing.  I had him 8th on my board.  I sAw him as an NBA ready guy who would average 15, 5 and 5 out of the gate, be a top 4 rookie, but long term others would surpass him.  I was disappointed with his rookie campaign.  Great defensive player though.  I'd move him for someone with star potential.

You're so wrong, it's funny. Yes, he finished 6th in voting. Yes, Embiid and Parker were injured. However, Mirotic and Noel, two players that were not part of the 2014 draft, finished ahead of him!

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I feel like, in this case, the source of the rumor could literally be two front office personnel go from some team going to starbucks, standing in the vicinity of a blogger at a table, and whispering as loud as they possibly can. There are people stage-whispering near the owners of popular twitter handles all over the NBA right now.

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A source said a potential landing spot for Boston's Marcus Smart is Indiana, which has the 11th pick.
https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/614158740728750081
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If they trade smart for pick 11,  Danny should get canned.

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I mean honestly, who would we even have picked ahead of Smart at 6? Even ignoring his injury, Randle is a good athlete with a skillset that doesn't suit the modern NBA at all (a PF poor man's version of Jahill Okafor, if you will). Stauskas and Vonleh have both been busts so far, and while Payton had a good season, he wasn't even in the conversation for #6 at the time.


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A source said a potential landing spot for Boston's Marcus Smart is Indiana, which has the 11th pick.
https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/614158740728750081

So this definitely isn't true.


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If they trade smart for pick 11,  Danny should get canned.

And arrested for inciting a riot.

Offline LarBrd33

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Boston desperately need a franchise prospect ... That's not smart. I like smart though

So we should just hurriedly deal guys who aren't going to be franchise guys but could very well make an All-Star team for a guy that might have the potential to be a franchise guy?

Edit: ... but probably won't ever be, like Smart?
I had smart 8th on my board last year and he ended up worse than I thought he'd be. I like him a lot, but I give him up if we can get a franchise prospect.



You're the only one in the world who thinks any of that. And tell me this, if you had him 8th on your board (ha!) and he ended up 6th in All-Rookie voting, how in the hell did he end worse than you thought he'd be? Ridiculousness.
Heh... If you wouldn't trade smart for embiid or Jabari Parker right now, you're cray.  So spare me his "6th in rookie voting" thing.  I had him 8th on my board.  I sAw him as an NBA ready guy who would average 15, 5 and 5 out of the gate, be a top 4 rookie, but long term others would surpass him.  I was disappointed with his rookie campaign.  Great defensive player though.  I'd move him for someone with star potential.

15/5/5?  Do share some of what you're smoking with me. 

It's no wonder why you were disappointed.  Unrealistic expectations.
I figured he'd be a poor man's Tyreke Evans... I overestimated him.

THere's still time and he could end up being a really great player.  Doubtful he's ever an allstar.

Why was 15 points per game for a "NBA-Ready" prospect who would be playing on a depleated tankjob roster "unrealistic"?  Evans averaged 20 points per game as a rookie.  I figured Smart would show more than he did.  HIs rookie campaign was underwhelming.  Sorry if that upsets you, but it's true.

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Boston desperately need a franchise prospect ... That's not smart. I like smart though

So we should just hurriedly deal guys who aren't going to be franchise guys but could very well make an All-Star team for a guy that might have the potential to be a franchise guy?

Edit: ... but probably won't ever be, like Smart?
I had smart 8th on my board last year and he ended up worse than I thought he'd be. I like him a lot, but I give him up if we can get a franchise prospect.



You're the only one in the world who thinks any of that. And tell me this, if you had him 8th on your board (ha!) and he ended up 6th in All-Rookie voting, how in the hell did he end worse than you thought he'd be? Ridiculousness.
Heh... If you wouldn't trade smart for embiid or Jabari Parker right now, you're cray.  So spare me his "6th in rookie voting" thing.  I had him 8th on my board.  I sAw him as an NBA ready guy who would average 15, 5 and 5 out of the gate, be a top 4 rookie, but long term others would surpass him.  I was disappointed with his rookie campaign.  Great defensive player though.  I'd move him for someone with star potential.

You're so wrong, it's funny. Yes, he finished 6th in voting. Yes, Embiid and Parker were injured. However, Mirotic and Noel, two players that were not part of the 2014 draft, finished ahead of him!

TP. I've given up. He's never really given me a legit answer.

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Boston desperately need a franchise prospect ... That's not smart. I like smart though

So we should just hurriedly deal guys who aren't going to be franchise guys but could very well make an All-Star team for a guy that might have the potential to be a franchise guy?

Edit: ... but probably won't ever be, like Smart?
I had smart 8th on my board last year and he ended up worse than I thought he'd be. I like him a lot, but I give him up if we can get a franchise prospect.



You're the only one in the world who thinks any of that. And tell me this, if you had him 8th on your board (ha!) and he ended up 6th in All-Rookie voting, how in the hell did he end worse than you thought he'd be? Ridiculousness.
Heh... If you wouldn't trade smart for embiid or Jabari Parker right now, you're cray.  So spare me his "6th in rookie voting" thing.  I had him 8th on my board.  I sAw him as an NBA ready guy who would average 15, 5 and 5 out of the gate, be a top 4 rookie, but long term others would surpass him.  I was disappointed with his rookie campaign.  Great defensive player though.  I'd move him for someone with star potential.

You're so wrong, it's funny. Yes, he finished 6th in voting. Yes, Embiid and Parker were injured. However, Mirotic and Noel, two players that were not part of the 2014 draft, finished ahead of him!

TP. I've given up. He's never really given me a legit answer.

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