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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2015, 09:20:25 AM »

Offline SHAQATTACK

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The Karl / Cousins gig is up quicker than I predicted once it was announced .

Knew it would never work.


Karl .....couldn't coach the diva s of the Lakers either.

Takes a special person......aka ...Doc "wet nurse " Rivers to handle him

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2015, 09:29:09 AM »

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FWIW, Cousins just posted a snake and grass emoji (that means something nowadays..lol)
That's actually pretty funny because Carmelo Anthony and Andre Iguodala both posted something similar before leaving (they both had George Karl as a coach before leaving Denver ::))


Hmmm, now that is pretty interesting.

It's a Jay-Z/Nas reference. C'mon.

edit: it could also be a Springsteen/ELO Reference. Need moar coffee.
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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2015, 09:54:13 AM »

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Nuggets offer the most enticing package for Cousins. It's exactly what the King's want according to Woj's report. People keep saying that the Lakers can get a third team involved, but why wouldn't that third team just trade for Cousins who is under contract for three more years?

Face it fellas, Cousin's is going to Denver or some other random team. I could see the Bulls jumping in as well. Maybe dealing Noah and Gibson. That would be appealing to the Kings because they're dumb. Obviously, Lakes provide the best package, but it looks like Karl is the one pulling all the strings over there.

Thank you! I don't understand why everyone's assuming the Lakers are the team to beat here when the Kings are saying they want established players.  I don't see how we can beat Denver when the Kings a) want veterans, b) desperately need a point guard, c) have Karl running the show.  I'm sure Karl would love to get a few of his former players in exchange for Boogie.  A package of Lawson, Faried, Gallo, and Chandler (maybe not all of them but certainly 2-3 of them) probably could get it done.  The thing I'm wondering is if we might be able to get in on a 3 way deal.  If Denver gets Boogie and trades a bunch of vets for them, they're going to be under some pressure to win right away before Boogie's contract expires and he becomes an unrestricted free agent.  If they give up the aforementioned guys, Denver is basically left with Boogie, Nurkic, and the #7 pick.  That's a good core but years away from the playoffs; I doubt they get there before Boogie reaches free agency.  Nurkic and Cousins also aren't a great fit together.  I wonder if we could offer a bunch of young role players who fit around Boogie for Nurkic and/or #7. They have to at least consider it right?
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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2015, 12:42:42 PM »

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i dunno why you wouldn't just fire karl.. i don't see any deal that's as good as Cousins.  that lakers deal is garbage.

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2015, 01:05:41 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Could anyone see this trade happening? Maybe Sactown's pick goes to Denver and the Celtics give current and future firsts out to either team?

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2015, 01:05:41 PM »

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Houston should trade Dwight Howard for Cousins.

That would be ballsy, but a fantastic move for the Rockets.

One reason it probably won't happen:  both Cousins and Howard are represented by Dan Fegan, who would attempt to kill the trade.

Fegan is exactly why it won't happen.


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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #66 on: June 23, 2015, 01:06:51 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pyqyjly

Could anyone see this trade happening? Maybe Sactown's pick goes to Denver and the Celtics give current and future firsts out to either team?

The Celtics get an affordable star. Sacramento gets lots of established role players,  most of whom can shoot, and Denver gets picks, prospects, and a new "face of the franchise" on a decent contract for the in-between period. Denver also gets rid of presumable malcontent Lawson.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2015, 01:20:29 PM by GetLucky »

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2015, 01:11:07 PM »

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No one can see that trade happening because neither of your links work.  ;D


Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2015, 01:21:00 PM »

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No one can see that trade happening because neither of your links work.  ;D

Haha my bad! The working link is in the edited post, as well as here: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pyqyjly

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« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2015, 01:25:48 PM »

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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2015, 02:13:23 PM »

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Denver isn't exactly in win-now mode, so I doubt they are looking to part with their lotto pick AND Ty Lawson.  Wouldn't make any sense. 

So, here's the best option for all teams -- considering that Sac is trying to rebuild on the fly, Denver is trying to get younger, high-ceiling type players, and the Celts trying to lure Boogie east. 

Denver gets:   AB, Sully, Wallace's expiring, 16 & 28
Sac gets:    Lawson, Faried, Olynyk, 33, 45, 2016 BKL first, 2018 BKL first
Bos gets:   Cousins, Landry

This way, both Sac & Denver get more out of the deal than they could dealing straight up with one another. 

If you are Sac, why cut us out of the deal if in addition to Lawson & Faried, you can get those two BKL firsts?  I also get the feeling that Karl covets Olynyk as a play-making 4 in his uptempo offense, so might as well get him too.

For Denver, it just doesn't work to trade for Cousins.  They aren't close enough to contention, and their most prized prospect plays the same position (Nuric).  Doing this deal, instead of accepting just the 6th pick, gives them a nice balance of solid players, cap relief, and two additional firsts in this draft ---- without giving up their 7th pick.   That's quite a haul for two players that aren't fitting in...

I think Ainge gets this done.  Reckon what we are hearing now about the Magic, Lakers, Denver et al. is the Sacramento smoke signal to Ainge about including both those BKL picks...

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2015, 02:24:50 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pyqyjly

Could anyone see this trade happening? Maybe Sactown's pick goes to Denver and the Celtics give current and future firsts out to either team?

The Celtics get an affordable star. Sacramento gets lots of established role players,  most of whom can shoot, and Denver gets picks, prospects, and a new "face of the franchise" on a decent contract for the in-between period. Denver also gets rid of presumable malcontent Lawson.

Not a bad trade, though I doubt Sacramento's pick goes anywhere.

Actually, leave Rudy Gay out of it. If Denver's looking for a proper rebuild, they're not going to want him on a four-year contract.

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2015, 02:24:59 PM »

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Can't see how Cousins or Karl stays now. So management says their not trading Cousins and Karl says he wants to trade him. Sounds like a disaster if Cousins stays under Karl. I have to think Sac town is at least listening to offers now. I don't see how the two can work together now.

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2015, 02:33:50 PM »

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Cousins isn't going anywhere.  However Karl may soon be headed out of Sac because in the NBA pecking order, star player always ranks ahead of coach.