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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2015, 07:25:29 AM »

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What a weird report.  The Kings are desperate to win now, but want to do it by trading their two best players?  And signing Rajon Rondo? And George Karl is apparently a junior high drama queen:

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Karl has been recruiting ... multiple players on the Kings' roster to unite with him in making the case to owner Vivek Ranadive that Cousins needs to be traded, league sources said.

Since the end of the 2014-15 season, Cousins has become aware of Karl's campaign to move him – including teammates telling Cousins, sources said.

If a professional coach is really purposefully dividing his own locker room in a power play, he should be fired immediately.


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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2015, 07:26:17 AM »

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IncarceratedBob is a moron, he is guessing.

If we miss out on Cousins I would be content getting Gay as a fallback option, he would be a great stretch 4 for us who also can play the 3 and is finally on an affordable contract.
IncarceratedBob is a moron, he is guessing.

Yes.  Just a total fake.

It may be fake, but I'm pretty sure Ainge is at least giving them a call or two. Or three.



There isn't any GM with at least some assets and draft picks salivating at the possible chance of acquiring DMC.

DMC is the best center in the NBA right now in my opinion. Hes a two way center, and those are very hard to find these days.

 
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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2015, 07:28:07 AM »

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IncarceratedBob is a moron, he is guessing.

Yes.  Just a total fake.

Personally I think he is tied into sources related to sports gambling but not within organizations.  But sometimes the gamblers are the first to know
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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2015, 07:28:07 AM »

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IncarceratedBob is a moron, he is guessing.

If we miss out on Cousins I would be content getting Gay as a fallback option, he would be a great stretch 4 for us who also can play the 3 and is finally on an affordable contract.
IncarceratedBob is a moron, he is guessing.

Yes.  Just a total fake.

It may be fake, but I'm pretty sure Ainge is at least giving them a call or two. Or three.



There isn't any GM with at least some assets and draft picks salivating at the possible chance of acquiring DMC.

DMC is the best center in the NBA right now in my opinion. Hes a two way center, and those are very hard to find these days.

I mean, of course.  You can substitute "Danny Ainge" with the name of just about every GM in the league.  When a guy of Cousins' caliber is on the market, a lot more than two or three teams are going to make offers.


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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2015, 07:32:29 AM »

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Where's Chris Broussard when you need him?  ;D
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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2015, 07:32:50 AM »

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Houston should trade Dwight Howard for Cousins.

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2015, 07:43:32 AM »

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Houston should trade Dwight Howard for Cousins.

That would be ballsy, but a fantastic move for the Rockets.

One reason it probably won't happen:  both Cousins and Howard are represented by Dan Fegan, who would attempt to kill the trade.


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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2015, 07:55:06 AM »

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I wonder if there is a 4-team deal with the C's-Den-Sac that involves the Celtics 1st absorbing a guy like Lawson into the Rondo trade exception in a separate deal, and then coordinating assets over to Sacramento using our pick potpourri and young players. Something like Lawson, Faried, and David Lee or maybe Jonas Valanciunas to Sac in exchange for Boogie and a bad contract.

I was playing with trade machine and couldn't quite find a match, but I think BOS might have a better chance of evtering the competition with teams having superior assets like LAL if we involve many trade partners because we can use our quantity of lesser picks to handpick specific pieces the Kings want into a trade.

Still might be an uphill battle but I think something can be constructed.

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2015, 08:05:44 AM »

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Where's Chris Broussard when you need him?  ;D
probably still mixing his multiple sauces. ;D

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2015, 08:13:12 AM »

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I mean, you're actively ignoring that the centerpiece of that deal was Al Jefferson and that not a single one of the four players you included in your proposed package are even close to the level of player Jefferson was at the time of the KG trade.

Didn't ignore it, was making the point that that there is more to trades than just the centerpiece, their are things like expiring contracts, exemptions and draft picks.

Yeah, but... you know... the centerpiece is the most important part of the deal. You think the Wolves were making that deal with Kendrick Perkins in place of Al Jefferson? Oh, and if they had to give up their own draft pick? Of course not.

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You also ignored the details of the Melo and Chris Paul trades

No, I haven't -- those deals aren't particularly relevant.

Melo trade: aside from the fact that Felton was a pretty big piece at the time (he was getting All-Star consideration and was averaging 17/9 for the Knicks, a near double-double), pretty much every single analyst agreed at the time that New York gave up far too many assets given that Melo was going to be a free agent in two or, at the absolute most, four months. That trade only looks even worse given what's happened to the Knicks since then. Cousins is under contract on a reasonable deal for another three years. Not applicable in this conversation.

CP3 trade: do you not realize how heralded a prospect Eric Gordon was at the time he was traded? He was viewed as being on the cusp of becoming what James Harden is now. Throw in a highly coveted Minnesota draft pick and that package wasn't bad at all. And, again, CP3 had didn't have three years left on his deal; he had one and a player option for another.


Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2015, 08:32:20 AM »

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Nuggets offer the most enticing package for Cousins. It's exactly what the King's want according to Woj's report. People keep saying that the Lakers can get a third team involved, but why wouldn't that third team just trade for Cousins who is under contract for three more years?

Face it fellas, Cousin's is going to Denver or some other random team. I could see the Bulls jumping in as well. Maybe dealing Noah and Gibson. That would be appealing to the Kings because they're dumb. Obviously, Lakes provide the best package, but it looks like Karl is the one pulling all the strings over there.

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2015, 08:42:17 AM »

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FWIW, Cousins just posted a snake and grass emoji (that means something nowadays..lol)

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2015, 09:10:01 AM »

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Not a huge surprise, the writing's been on the wall for a while on this one.  Most of the pushback against the idea that Cousins would be moving soon has been because

- It doesn't make much sense on paper to trade him now, and

- Kings management have been saying publicly that they don't want to trade him (which often means the opposite).

Honestly I'd rather he wind up here, but I don't mind if the Lakers get him, he's a great talent but has been a malcontent his entire career, and that organization seems so dysfunctional now that I don't see a great chance of that improving.

Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2015, 09:12:16 AM »

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FWIW, Cousins just posted a snake and grass emoji (that means something nowadays..lol)
That's actually pretty funny because Carmelo Anthony and Andre Iguodala both posted something similar before leaving Denver (they both had George Karl as a coach before joining the Knicks and Warriors ::))
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Re: [Woj] George Karl actively pushing to trade Cousins.
« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2015, 09:17:07 AM »

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FWIW, Cousins just posted a snake and grass emoji (that means something nowadays..lol)
That's actually pretty funny because Carmelo Anthony and Andre Iguodala both posted something similar before leaving (they both had George Karl as a coach before leaving Denver ::))


Hmmm, now that is pretty interesting.