The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.

[saltlover]

You know who blew four drafts in a row?  gamesbot.

[GratefulCs]

Isaiah Thomas is our first pick in the 2015 draft.

This years draft looks good so far.

Yup


We likely weren't going to select anyone as good as thomas with the cleveland pick


Got thomas for basically nothing. A TPE really








But Danny sucks, right guys?


Lets hire this imaginary GM who never misses a draft pick and wins every trade

[jdz101]

You know who blew four drafts in a row?  gamesbot.

tp

[Lucky17]

"He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun."

Just added a notification on my gmail to give you a TP every day, for 30 days, due to this comment.

What's really funny: they both have a DRtng of 105 over their careers.

http://bkref.com/tiny/ihSnz

[Sixth Man]

2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

TP

We have not drafted well at all.

Danny should pay the Celtics back for that expense paid trip to Greece. What a waste of time to go out there scout the kid, and then what???

I didn't know that you are the Controller for the Celtics.  What's it like to work on the business side of our beloved franchise?  For the record, congrats on your success...

[Beat LA]

Everyday I wake up I immediately remember how we don't have Tony Wroten, and the pain and sadness start all over again.



Though I don't really look anything like this guy.

Um, Tony Wroten is a sick player.  Had we come out of the 2012 draft with Sullinger and Wroten, the 12-13 team would have been better, especially because of Wroten's Lance Stephenson-like versatility.  He also would have been a great guy to have if Rondo had still gotten injured, imo.

Sidebar - this has been nagging me for a while for some reason, but why does everyone refer to Jajuan Johnson as 'JJJ?'  Only basketballreference.com cites his middle name, and it's Markeis, so what gives, lol?  Just wondering.

Bottom line - we need to clean house with our scouting department, because it really sucks.

His first name has two capital Js—JaJuan—giving him three capital Js in his name. Thus, JJJ. Which in my mind I always referred to as "Trey J" (three Js).

TP for explaining that.  I still find it weird, though.

[Sixth Man]

just for the heck of it we should probably try to do this with Bill Belichick too.  I'm not so sure we should give him credit for drafting Tom Brady. He passed over him like 5 times before taking him 199th.

Outstanding...!! 

[Nerf DPOY]

Everyday I wake up I immediately remember how we don't have Tony Wroten, and the pain and sadness start all over again.



Though I don't really look anything like this guy.

Um, Tony Wroten is a sick player.  Had we come out of the 2012 draft with Sullinger and Wroten, the 12-13 team would have been better, especially because of Wroten's Lance Stephenson-like versatility.  He also would have been a great guy to have if Rondo had still gotten injured, imo.

Sidebar - this has been nagging me for a while for some reason, but why does everyone refer to Jajuan Johnson as 'JJJ?'  Only basketballreference.com cites his middle name, and it's Markeis, so what gives, lol?  Just wondering.

Bottom line - we need to clean house with our scouting department, because it really sucks.

Well, illness would explain these numbers I guess.

Year   Team   G   Min   FGM   FGA   FG%   3PM   3PA   3PT%   FTM   FTA   FT%   Off   Def   Reb   Ast   TO   Stl   Blk   PF   Pts
2012-13   MEM   35   7:46   0.9   2.5   38.4   0.1   0.5   25.0   0.6   0.8   72.4   0.4   0.4   0.8   1.2   0.8   0.2   0.1   1.0   2.6
2013-14   PHI   72   24:30   4.8   11.2   42.7   0.6   2.6   21.3   2.9   4.5   64.1   1.0   2.2   3.2   3.0   2.8   1.1   0.2   2.1   13.0
2014-15   PHI   30   29:49   5.8   14.5   40.3   1.2   4.7   26.1   4.0   6.0   66.7   0.7   2.1   2.9   5.2   3.8   1.6   0.3   2.4   16.9
Totals      137   21:23   4.0   9.7   41.6   0.6   2.5   23.4   2.6   3.9   65.4   0.8   1.7   2.5   3.0   2.5   1.0   0.2   1.9   11.2

Nearly 5 three point attempts per game at 26%. Pretty awful AST/TO ratio. He fell out of Philly's rotation for a period. On top of that, he's out for the year and possibly the beginning of next with knee surgery. It's funny you bring up '12-13, because the first player Wroten reminds me of is Jordan Crawford(who I liked). Wroten wouldn't have been an upgrade over Crawford IMO, who we got for basically nothing. They're both talented but usually pretty inefficient.

If we really wanted him I'd be willing to bet he could be had for our own 2nd. Maybe less.

[Beat LA]

Isaiah Thomas is our first pick in the 2015 draft.

This years draft looks good so far.

Yup


We likely weren't going to select anyone as good as thomas with the cleveland pick


Got thomas for basically nothing. A TPE really








But Danny sucks, right guys?


Lets hire this imaginary GM who never misses a draft pick and wins every trade

If Ainge was so interested in Thomas for such a long period of time, why didn't he just take him instead of E'twaun Moore in 2011.  These are the moves by Ainge that I really hate, especially because we didn't give him his current contract.  Ugh.  I'll be the first to admit that I thought that he was going to be too small to play in the NBA, but he's obviously proven me wrong, so good for him. I just don't see how he fits here, and he's already 26.

[Beat LA]

Everyday I wake up I immediately remember how we don't have Tony Wroten, and the pain and sadness start all over again.



Though I don't really look anything like this guy.

Um, Tony Wroten is a sick player.  Had we come out of the 2012 draft with Sullinger and Wroten, the 12-13 team would have been better, especially because of Wroten's Lance Stephenson-like versatility.  He also would have been a great guy to have if Rondo had still gotten injured, imo.

Sidebar - this has been nagging me for a while for some reason, but why does everyone refer to Jajuan Johnson as 'JJJ?'  Only basketballreference.com cites his middle name, and it's Markeis, so what gives, lol?  Just wondering.

Bottom line - we need to clean house with our scouting department, because it really sucks.

Well, illness would explain these numbers I guess.

Year   Team   G   Min   FGM   FGA   FG%   3PM   3PA   3PT%   FTM   FTA   FT%   Off   Def   Reb   Ast   TO   Stl   Blk   PF   Pts
2012-13   MEM   35   7:46   0.9   2.5   38.4   0.1   0.5   25.0   0.6   0.8   72.4   0.4   0.4   0.8   1.2   0.8   0.2   0.1   1.0   2.6
2013-14   PHI   72   24:30   4.8   11.2   42.7   0.6   2.6   21.3   2.9   4.5   64.1   1.0   2.2   3.2   3.0   2.8   1.1   0.2   2.1   13.0
2014-15   PHI   30   29:49   5.8   14.5   40.3   1.2   4.7   26.1   4.0   6.0   66.7   0.7   2.1   2.9   5.2   3.8   1.6   0.3   2.4   16.9
Totals      137   21:23   4.0   9.7   41.6   0.6   2.5   23.4   2.6   3.9   65.4   0.8   1.7   2.5   3.0   2.5   1.0   0.2   1.9   11.2

Nearly 5 three point attempts per game at 26%. Pretty awful AST/TO ratio. He fell out of Philly's rotation for a period. On top of that, he's out for the year and possibly the beginning of next with knee surgery. It's funny you bring up '12-13, because the first player Wroten reminds me of is Jordan Crawford(who I liked). Wroten wouldn't have been an upgrade over Crawford IMO, who we got for basically nothing. They're both talented but usually pretty inefficient.

If we really wanted him I'd be willing to bet he could be had for our own 2nd. Maybe less.

Fair enough.  For the record, I liked Jordan Crawford, too, and we should have taken him in 2010, but whatever.  It's not all about numbers with Wroten, though.  Have you seen the passes that this guy makes (yes, I know that Crawford is a very good passer, as well, but not on Wroten's level, imo)?  He's had games where he's only scored 6 points, but has been the best player on the floor because he'll also have 9 assists.  If we are looking at numbers, though, the one I'd like to focus on is his free throw attempts this season.  The guy gets to the line like Pierce, and we don't have anyone like that anymore.  I also think that his size could have helped against the bigger 2s and 3s, as opposed to letting Bradley just get annihilated by them in the post.  I'm not saying that the guy is a franchise player, but he's pretty awesome.  Well, to me, anyway, lol.  

Btw, wasn't he one of the leaders in steals for much of the first half of the year, or am I confusing him with someone else?

[mahcus smaht]

The argument presented that singe is bad because he was very interested in parsons and GA seems a bit backwards to me the fact that singe identified the guys as guys of interest has to be a positive. No?

But really I think it means nothing because every GM should scout everyone.

Lastly to me Wroten seems like a classic volume scorer bound to put up points on bad teams until he finds himself out of the league at 26. Fwiw I did like him in that 2012 draft

[Nerf DPOY]

Everyday I wake up I immediately remember how we don't have Tony Wroten, and the pain and sadness start all over again.



Though I don't really look anything like this guy.

Um, Tony Wroten is a sick player.  Had we come out of the 2012 draft with Sullinger and Wroten, the 12-13 team would have been better, especially because of Wroten's Lance Stephenson-like versatility.  He also would have been a great guy to have if Rondo had still gotten injured, imo.

Sidebar - this has been nagging me for a while for some reason, but why does everyone refer to Jajuan Johnson as 'JJJ?'  Only basketballreference.com cites his middle name, and it's Markeis, so what gives, lol?  Just wondering.

Bottom line - we need to clean house with our scouting department, because it really sucks.

Well, illness would explain these numbers I guess.

Year   Team   G   Min   FGM   FGA   FG%   3PM   3PA   3PT%   FTM   FTA   FT%   Off   Def   Reb   Ast   TO   Stl   Blk   PF   Pts
2012-13   MEM   35   7:46   0.9   2.5   38.4   0.1   0.5   25.0   0.6   0.8   72.4   0.4   0.4   0.8   1.2   0.8   0.2   0.1   1.0   2.6
2013-14   PHI   72   24:30   4.8   11.2   42.7   0.6   2.6   21.3   2.9   4.5   64.1   1.0   2.2   3.2   3.0   2.8   1.1   0.2   2.1   13.0
2014-15   PHI   30   29:49   5.8   14.5   40.3   1.2   4.7   26.1   4.0   6.0   66.7   0.7   2.1   2.9   5.2   3.8   1.6   0.3   2.4   16.9
Totals      137   21:23   4.0   9.7   41.6   0.6   2.5   23.4   2.6   3.9   65.4   0.8   1.7   2.5   3.0   2.5   1.0   0.2   1.9   11.2

Nearly 5 three point attempts per game at 26%. Pretty awful AST/TO ratio. He fell out of Philly's rotation for a period. On top of that, he's out for the year and possibly the beginning of next with knee surgery. It's funny you bring up '12-13, because the first player Wroten reminds me of is Jordan Crawford(who I liked). Wroten wouldn't have been an upgrade over Crawford IMO, who we got for basically nothing. They're both talented but usually pretty inefficient.

If we really wanted him I'd be willing to bet he could be had for our own 2nd. Maybe less.

Fair enough.  For the record, I liked Jordan Crawford, too, and we should have taken him in 2010, but whatever.  It's not all about numbers with Wroten, though.  Have you seen the passes that this guy makes (yes, I know that Crawford is a very good passer, as well, but not on Wroten's level, imo)?  He's had games where he's only scored 6 points, but has been the best player on the floor because he'll also have 9 assists.  If we are looking at numbers, though, the one I'd like to focus on is his free throw attempts this season.  The guy gets to the line like Pierce, and we don't have anyone like that anymore.  I also think that his size could have helped against the bigger 2s and 3s, as opposed to letting Bradley just get annihilated by them in the post.  I'm not saying that the guy is a franchise player, but he's pretty awesome.  Well, to me, anyway, lol.  

Btw, wasn't he one of the leaders in steals for much of the first half of the year, or am I confusing him with someone else?

Don't remember, but if he qualified he'd be somewhere between 15-19 league wide at 1.6 per game.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/steals/sort/avgSteals

[255 Rings]

What a dumb article. Sans this season and the last we were a playoff team or contender from 2007 to 2013. The only times we picked in the lottery was twice since then (2007 5th pick Jeff Green, who we turned into Ray Allen, and 2014 6th pick Marcus Smart who was our PG insurance in case Rondo didn't work out, which BTW he didn't and plus we already had two PFs in Sully and Olynyk, so drafting Randle was pointless). The highest we picked during our playoff runs was 16th in 2013, when we traded up for Olynyk. I agree that Ainge isn't the best at drafting, but he certainly isn't the worst. He's found great players that were in non-lottery range. Sullinger is a great player, he just has to lose the fat. I didn't like that he traded up for Kelly Olynyk when Dieng was still on the board (RIM-PROTECTION!), but overall the 2013 Draft was pretty weak. Smart is a great prospect, he's a game changer and has great leader qualities, toughness and works hard, exactly the type of player you want as the leader of a fierce competitive team. JJJ was a dumb trade, but Moore has turned into a good role player, he's actually doing well in Chicago. As much as you can expect from the majority of 2nd round picks. We missed huge on Butler but we had Green back then, and during that time we weren't looking to blow it up just yet. Draymond Green was another player we missed and went with biggest draft bust Fab Melo, but I can't fault Ainge for falling in love with 7 ft of muscle. Melo didn't pan out, and neither JJJ, but those guys were picked in the 20 range of the draft, one of the harder areas to find talent. Now if Ainge had picked in the lottery a garbage player I would be livid, but he hasn't. Ainge is a B in the NBA Draft, where he's amazing at is asset collection and trades. Would you rather have an overrated kook in Mitch Kupchak or Billy King running our team? Nah, we good. We'll draft a big body this time and NOT fail! 

[Boris Badenov]

By this logic every GM has blown every draft ever.

What drivel.

[ederson]

Datome was the MVP of the italian league and still hasn`t done anything significant in the NBA and some people here claim that a few games sample from a lower greek division is the sane way of drafting .... ok