Any interest in Frank Kaminsky?

[Birdman]

nope

[Eddie20]

I'm not convinced on Kaminsky yet. Haven't watched his tourney games yet but my big concern is how he'll do against length.

He is intriguing but I can't work out what his NBA ceiling is....

Is he Andrea Bargnani, Tyler Hansborough or Pau Gasol?
Very unique/high upside talent that can shoot and play any position.

Then try watch some games first.  He did well vs Okafor earlier this season also

He is a legit 7'0 ft tall pf/c.  7'1-7'2 wingspan(or longer).  When he dunks can bend his elbows, have the ball behind his head before dunking(it's not like he can jump very high either). Something KO nor Dakari Johnson can do

And i would say is closer to Pau Gasol skill wise/shot blocking capabilities

You keep posting these wingspan numbers on Kaminsky, but where are you getting it from? For comparison, Cauley-Stein and Towns who are much longer than Kaminsky, have wingspans of 7-2 and 7-3.

Estimates found online(writers)

We wont know officially until the combine. But its not shorter than 7 ft.  And how do you know its not as long as wcs. Wcs may have a longer wingspan than 7'2 also.

Not sure why you dislike kaminsky so much

Can you provide links to the writers (plural) that suggest Kaminsky's wingspan is "7-1, 7-2, or longer"? I find that to be an extremely bold and inaccurate statement.

WCS and Town's measurements were from
UK's pro day.

I don't dislike Kaminsky, but take pause when I see you constantly overrate him simply because he puts up numbers versus opposition that is usually younger and smaller than he is. Drafting him would also limit the minutes we'd be able to distribute between 4 players (Sullinger, Olynyk, Zeller, Kaminsky) that all need minutes. This isnt even taking into consideration the lack of defense, athleticism, weakness defending the p&r, defending in space, that potential frontline has. So what's the alternative? Trading Olynyk while his value (poor play) is low? Trading Sullinger while his value (injury) is low?

How are you coming  up with the conclusion kaminsky has a shorter wingspan than wcs?

I already explained that he is capable to bend his elbows, have the ball behind his head to dunk with two hands. Unless you got a very good leaping ability ,you cant do that with a short wingspan

We wont know his official wingspan measurements until the combine

Pretty obvious, no? I mean Tommy probably has a longer wingspan that Gorman, but we don't know exactly either.

Let's say Kaminsky has a 7-2 wingspan for the sake of argument. He averages 0.5 blocks per game more than Olynyk (6-10 wingspan) did in approximately 6 mpg more. So would you agree then that he is an extremely awful shot blocker, especially considering his "great length"? Blocks is one stat that definitely translates on the next level.

Kaminsky also had a 7 and 6 block games this season.  The most KO did in one game in his last year in college was 3.   

Kaminsky probably has altered or bothered many more shots than KO was able to

Kaminsky is not going to be a shot blocking machine in the nba but I bet he will bother/alter more shots than KO and even Zeller

So what you're saying is that when you remove those 2 games of 13 blocks he was even more pathetic in blocking shots than the data initially indicates.

Again, without anything to substantiate your claims of altering more shots all we can by is actual numbers. The numbers say that Kaminsky, despite the wingspan you suggest, really struggles to block shots.

Triboy, I know you're holding strong to your argument, but is that the type of player our team really needs? Are we in dire need of a good shooting big that offers little in athleticism and protecting the rim?

[TheFlex]

BPA is generally the best approach but it's hyperbolic to simply dismiss positional needs. If Danny feels Kaminsky is the BPA by the time we can use LAC's pick, but feels Player X is only slightly behind and is either a long wing or a truer center than Kaminsky, I'd want him to take Player X. To me BPA only works exclusively on its own when comparing a player to an obviously inferior player.

I'd really like us to move up for Hezonja. That will likely cost the Clippers pick, though Danny might try to capitalize on the BKN picks' value if he feels the rising cap will ease their fall from a playoff team. If we do keep our pick and LAC's, I'd love Myles Turner (I think he'll be there between 8-10) and LeVert. Both project to be near the level of or even the BPA within their respective ranges and both fill positions/roles of need.

[number_n9ne]

I wouldn't be opposed to Kaminsky if we tried to snag Faried from Denver. I think they'd make a nice combo.

I've been watching him play in the tourney and wow. I'm definitely higher on him then I ever was before.

[Tr1boy]

I wouldn't be opposed to Kaminsky if we tried to snag Faried from Denver. I think they'd make a nice combo.

I've been watching him play in the tourney and wow. I'm definitely higher on him then I ever was before.

What if we drafted Kaminsky and Jarell Martin with our 2nd 1st?

Jarell Martin is an explosive pf.

[number_n9ne]

I wouldn't be opposed to Kaminsky if we tried to snag Faried from Denver. I think they'd make a nice combo.

I've been watching him play in the tourney and wow. I'm definitely higher on him then I ever was before.

What if we drafted Kaminsky and Jarell Martin with our 2nd 1st?

Jarell Martin is an explosive pf.

Yeah, but Faried is a proven talent. Could be absorbed with the Rondo exception if the Nuggets look to move on.

Smart/Bradley/[max FA]/Faried/Kaminsky could be a nice lineup.

[flybono]

Kaminsky much like Olynyk, slow feet..

Big to go after without much hype is TLyles Kentucky if he comes out. Watch his game on the defensive end always in position, plays and runs floor well..I believe this player is a big time sleeper..

[Tr1boy]

Kaminsky much like Olynyk, slow feet..

Big to go after without much hype is TLyles Kentucky if he comes out. Watch his game on the defensive end always in position, plays and runs floor well..I believe this player is a big time sleeper..

Trey Lyles is like a KO part 2. Good and bad

Rather pick Dakari Johnson later in the draft

[number_n9ne]

Kaminsky much like Olynyk, slow feet...

I disagree. I've been watching the tournament and he doesn't seem slow at all. Actually he seems to make really good defensive plays. He's longer than Olynyk and seems to play D with a lot more effort/strength. He's no freak athlete but he's not some skinny bean pole getting tossed around. Looks like he can run, shoot the 3, play decent D, drive, and pass. Seems like a Stevens guy to me. Plus he's a senior, we won't be waiting 5 years for this kid to develop.

[hwangjini_1]

I wouldn't be opposed to Kaminsky if we tried to snag Faried from Denver. I think they'd make a nice combo.

I've been watching him play in the tourney and wow. I'm definitely higher on him then I ever was before.

What if we drafted Kaminsky and Jarell Martin with our 2nd 1st?

Jarell Martin is an explosive pf.

he better be. draftexpress has him at 6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan. the averages for pfs in the nba are 6'9" and 7'1".

[Tr1boy]

I wouldn't be opposed to Kaminsky if we tried to snag Faried from Denver. I think they'd make a nice combo.

I've been watching him play in the tourney and wow. I'm definitely higher on him then I ever was before.

What if we drafted Kaminsky and Jarell Martin with our 2nd 1st?

Jarell Martin is an explosive pf.

he better be. draftexpress has him at 6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan. the averages for pfs in the nba are 6'9" and 7'1".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YCt8el61A8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpm8IM7eCxM

[Eddie20]

I'm not convinced on Kaminsky yet. Haven't watched his tourney games yet but my big concern is how he'll do against length.

He is intriguing but I can't work out what his NBA ceiling is....

Is he Andrea Bargnani, Tyler Hansborough or Pau Gasol?
Very unique/high upside talent that can shoot and play any position.

Then try watch some games first.  He did well vs Okafor earlier this season also

He is a legit 7'0 ft tall pf/c.  7'1-7'2 wingspan(or longer).  When he dunks can bend his elbows, have the ball behind his head before dunking(it's not like he can jump very high either). Something KO nor Dakari Johnson can do

And i would say is closer to Pau Gasol skill wise/shot blocking capabilities

You keep posting these wingspan numbers on Kaminsky, but where are you getting it from? For comparison, Cauley-Stein and Towns who are much longer than Kaminsky, have wingspans of 7-2 and 7-3.

Estimates found online(writers)

We wont know officially until the combine. But its not shorter than 7 ft.  And how do you know its not as long as wcs. Wcs may have a longer wingspan than 7'2 also.

Not sure why you dislike kaminsky so much

Can you provide links to the writers (plural) that suggest Kaminsky's wingspan is "7-1, 7-2, or longer"? I find that to be an extremely bold and inaccurate statement.

WCS and Town's measurements were from
UK's pro day.

I don't dislike Kaminsky, but take pause when I see you constantly overrate him simply because he puts up numbers versus opposition that is usually younger and smaller than he is. Drafting him would also limit the minutes we'd be able to distribute between 4 players (Sullinger, Olynyk, Zeller, Kaminsky) that all need minutes. This isnt even taking into consideration the lack of defense, athleticism, weakness defending the p&r, defending in space, that potential frontline has. So what's the alternative? Trading Olynyk while his value (poor play) is low? Trading Sullinger while his value (injury) is low?

How are you coming  up with the conclusion kaminsky has a shorter wingspan than wcs?

I already explained that he is capable to bend his elbows, have the ball behind his head to dunk with two hands. Unless you got a very good leaping ability ,you cant do that with a short wingspan

We wont know his official wingspan measurements until the combine

Wingspans:

Kaminsky 6-11
Cauley-Stein 7-3

ESPNU @ESPNU  ·  2h 2 hours ago
A little friendly competition between old teammates. @dekker @ 83.5" barely edges out @FSKPart3's at 83" #NBACombine

ESPNU @ESPNU  ·  1h 1 hour ago
Ok #BBN @THEwillieCS15 reaches 9'3" high, stands 7'1/2" with shoes, & has a wingspan of 7'3". That's the trillest.

[acieEarl]

Didn't think much of Kaminsky till he proved he's a player in the tournament. Killed it against Kentucky's NBA front line and out played Dukes Oakfor.

Not saying he's going to be a better player than Towns or Oakfor, but he proved he can play against bigger more athletic players. Good chance he's gone before 16.

[SHAQATTACK]

I have some interest in him and definitely think he could be a better fit than KO. Maybe not right away though

+1. 

[indeedproceed]

I'm not convinced on Kaminsky yet. Haven't watched his tourney games yet but my big concern is how he'll do against length.

He is intriguing but I can't work out what his NBA ceiling is....

Is he Andrea Bargnani, Tyler Hansborough or Pau Gasol?
Very unique/high upside talent that can shoot and play any position.

Then try watch some games first.  He did well vs Okafor earlier this season also

He is a legit 7'0 ft tall pf/c.  7'1-7'2 wingspan(or longer).  When he dunks can bend his elbows, have the ball behind his head before dunking(it's not like he can jump very high either). Something KO nor Dakari Johnson can do

And i would say is closer to Pau Gasol skill wise/shot blocking capabilities

You keep posting these wingspan numbers on Kaminsky, but where are you getting it from? For comparison, Cauley-Stein and Towns who are much longer than Kaminsky, have wingspans of 7-2 and 7-3.

Estimates found online(writers)

We wont know officially until the combine. But its not shorter than 7 ft.  And how do you know its not as long as wcs. Wcs may have a longer wingspan than 7'2 also.

Not sure why you dislike kaminsky so much

Can you provide links to the writers (plural) that suggest Kaminsky's wingspan is "7-1, 7-2, or longer"? I find that to be an extremely bold and inaccurate statement.

WCS and Town's measurements were from
UK's pro day.

I don't dislike Kaminsky, but take pause when I see you constantly overrate him simply because he puts up numbers versus opposition that is usually younger and smaller than he is. Drafting him would also limit the minutes we'd be able to distribute between 4 players (Sullinger, Olynyk, Zeller, Kaminsky) that all need minutes. This isnt even taking into consideration the lack of defense, athleticism, weakness defending the p&r, defending in space, that potential frontline has. So what's the alternative? Trading Olynyk while his value (poor play) is low? Trading Sullinger while his value (injury) is low?

How are you coming  up with the conclusion kaminsky has a shorter wingspan than wcs?

I already explained that he is capable to bend his elbows, have the ball behind his head to dunk with two hands. Unless you got a very good leaping ability ,you cant do that with a short wingspan

We wont know his official wingspan measurements until the combine

Wingspans:

Kaminsky 6-11
Cauley-Stein 7-3

ESPNU @ESPNU  ·  2h 2 hours ago
A little friendly competition between old teammates. @dekker @ 83.5" barely edges out @FSKPart3's at 83" #NBACombine

ESPNU @ESPNU  ·  1h 1 hour ago
Ok #BBN @THEwillieCS15 reaches 9'3" high, stands 7'1/2" with shoes, & has a wingspan of 7'3". That's the trillest.

That is a pretty compelling counterpoint.