How many games will Marcus Smart be suspended for?

[rollie mass]

if anybody can't see his hand get clipped while moving forward-this was an accident by a guy who tends to htrow himself around-he had no intention of a below the belt foul-isiah at full leap and speed gets clipped and its just an accident-this should be resinded-he may have been reckless but unintentional nut shot

[Dog_Lover106]

He will probably get suspended a game or two. It's really not a big deal.

In fact it is. Whacking two guys in two weeks will get you a reputation in the NBA. And having a reputation goes a long way when it comes to how you're treated by the officials.

Kevin Garnett's reputation didn't cause him trouble with the officials.

I think Smart will get suspended 2 games at worst, one at best. I was surprised by his behaviour but it happens.

Why would you be surprised? Smart was the most hated player in the Big 12 for a reason. Did this not happen multiple times last year? Flopping and dirty plays and then he wants to fake fight everyone.

I do not care how good he may or may not be now or in the future(not very good IMO). I cannot stand this draft pick and I have embraced every Celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

Now you know why Wayne Selden tweeted on draft night........."Oh know, not my Celtics!"'

You just described Kevin Garnett with that bolded statement and then go on to say youve supported every celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

So why is this behavior ok for KG but not for Smart?  Dont give me rookie, earning his stripe nonsense either.  Youre clearly riding around on your moral high horse here.  Garnett has thrown elbows and then flopped when the player retaliates, Garnett has started these little fake fights, hes even taken groin shots.  So enlighten me to the difference that made it ok for you to be a fan of Garnett in celtic green for all these years yet you cant stand Marcus Smart

The only thing Smart and KG would have in common is......0 (Zero) NCAA tournament victories.......

[flybono]

Who gives a f#ck what his intention was. Nice to see we have a player with some edge and fire!

That play by Smart would have made Oakley Laimbeer and Mahorn look like Saints!

[KeepRondo]

Didn't look any worse than Harden's shot to LeBron earlier this month.  Less worse in my opinion, since Harden kicked after the whistle was blown.  1 game at most.  But Smart does need to be careful.  Two flagrant twos in a month is a good way to earn a reputation early.

Disagree.  Harden and lebron were tangled up and in the heat of the moment, harden kicked in part to get Lebron off him.  May or may not have intended to hit him in the nether region.

Marcus, on the other hand wound up in premiditaed fashion to smack a guy in the nuts.  Much worse what Marcus did.

lol this is ridiculous. Watch the tape again. His arm gets tangled on the player before. He didn't wind up.

[greg683x]

He will probably get suspended a game or two. It's really not a big deal.

In fact it is. Whacking two guys in two weeks will get you a reputation in the NBA. And having a reputation goes a long way when it comes to how you're treated by the officials.

Kevin Garnett's reputation didn't cause him trouble with the officials.

I think Smart will get suspended 2 games at worst, one at best. I was surprised by his behaviour but it happens.

Why would you be surprised? Smart was the most hated player in the Big 12 for a reason. Did this not happen multiple times last year? Flopping and dirty plays and then he wants to fake fight everyone.

I do not care how good he may or may not be now or in the future(not very good IMO). I cannot stand this draft pick and I have embraced every Celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

Now you know why Wayne Selden tweeted on draft night........."Oh know, not my Celtics!"'

You just described Kevin Garnett with that bolded statement and then go on to say youve supported every celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

So why is this behavior ok for KG but not for Smart?  Dont give me rookie, earning his stripe nonsense either.  Youre clearly riding around on your moral high horse here.  Garnett has thrown elbows and then flopped when the player retaliates, Garnett has started these little fake fights, hes even taken groin shots.  So enlighten me to the difference that made it ok for you to be a fan of Garnett in celtic green for all these years yet you cant stand Marcus Smart

The only thing Smart and KG would have in common is......0 (Zero) NCAA tournament victories.......

Way to dodge the question!! you clearly have an axe to grind so any kind of rational argument is going out the window.

If you'd like video evidence of Kevin Garnett doing everythin you had mentioned previously I can make that happen for you.  It's already been posted in this thread once.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Better not be more than 1 game, because that's what Whiteside got for shoving Olynyk in the back of the neck and knocking him to the floor, which to me is a much more dangerous play.

[Ogaju]

amazing how with video evidence people can still disagree so passionately, no wonder some people that commit heinous crimes get acquitted even when there is overwhelming evidence of guilt.

Bottom line here is Marcus Smart is not Kevin Garnett (this is for all who have tried to compare him to KG). Marcus has not played a full NBA season and we are already talking about two ejections for flagrant fouls. For all that argue that the foul was not intentional, of course it was. You do not get to a flagrant foul without intent. Once you agree that it was an intentional foul, the question naturally becomes why direct the foul at the man's package? If it was inadvertent as claimed by Smart why square up with Bonner after the contact. Why not pat him on the back to say 'no ill feelings'? Oh, I bet that would dent the thuggish image he is trying to project.

To those who want to compare this guy to Posey or Rodman. Well I don't think either of those guys was picked with the #6 pick in the draft nor were they ever the face of any franchise. They were role player and part of that role was the 'enforcer' role. Is that what you want from Smart? Face of franchise or enforcer?

[Kuberski33]

The bigger issue is whether this guy can maintain his composure when things aren't going well.  That concerns me more than anything.  Some guys can't handle extreme adversity in a game and lose it. And none of them ever last long because it's a personal character flaw. 

Guys who can't keep it together risk the refs always looking for them to do stuff, their opponents purposely trying to set them off and as we're seeing now, possible suspensions at inopportune times.  What if this happened in a playoff series?  That's what I mean about being an unreliable teammate.

Yes, they've going to get past this in the short term, but I guarantee you this incident caught Ainge's attention and may factor into future decision making about the roster.

[Kuberski33]

And its not just this incident.  There was the Payton elbow and I still say he did it again (with his head) to Westbrook at the end of the OKC game. Got him right on the cheekbone, which forced Westbrook to leave the game.  My point is there's a pattern developing here.

[greg683x]

amazing how with video evidence people can still disagree so passionately, no wonder some people that commit heinous crimes get acquitted even when there is overwhelming evidence of guilt.

Bottom line here is Marcus Smart is not Kevin Garnett (this is for all who have tried to compare him to KG). Marcus has not played a full NBA season and we are already talking about two ejections for flagrant fouls. For all that argue that the foul was not intentional, of course it was. You do not get to a flagrant foul without intent. Once you agree that it was an intentional foul, the question naturally becomes why direct the foul at the man's package? If it was inadvertent as claimed by Smart why square up with Bonner after the contact. Why not pat him on the back to say 'no ill feelings'? Oh, I bet that would dent the thuggish image he is trying to project.

To those who want to compare this guy to Posey or Rodman. Well I don't think either of those guys was picked with the #6 pick in the draft nor were they ever the face of any franchise. They were role player and part of that role was the 'enforcer' role. Is that what you want from Smart? Face of franchise or enforcer?

Yes you have a point that these two incidents are coming in just one season, Smarts first season no less.  But the incidents that have been referenced regarding Kevin Garnett in this thread, also occurred less than a year apart.  It's not like one happened when KG was a rookie and the other when he was a 12 year vet.  We also saw more than once in one season, Kevin Garnett elbowing Andray Blatche when he knew the officials werent looking.  This is when Garnetts in his mid 30s!! 

Im sorry to keep harping on this.  But these two incidents that he was given flagrants and ejected for, Kevin Garnett committed these same acts and had the same consequences. 

And also, whats more excuseable, that Marcus is making these mistakes when hes a 20 year old rookie?  Or that KG was doing these same things in his mid 30s??

Im sorry, I just dont see how you can seperate the two and look the other way and make excuses for one, and rule the other with an iron fist.

[gpap]

He will probably get suspended a game or two. It's really not a big deal.

In fact it is. Whacking two guys in two weeks will get you a reputation in the NBA. And having a reputation goes a long way when it comes to how you're treated by the officials.

Kevin Garnett's reputation didn't cause him trouble with the officials.

I think Smart will get suspended 2 games at worst, one at best. I was surprised by his behaviour but it happens.

Why would you be surprised? Smart was the most hated player in the Big 12 for a reason. Did this not happen multiple times last year? Flopping and dirty plays and then he wants to fake fight everyone.

I do not care how good he may or may not be now or in the future(not very good IMO). I cannot stand this draft pick and I have embraced every Celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

Now you know why Wayne Selden tweeted on draft night........."Oh know, not my Celtics!"'

You just described Kevin Garnett with that bolded statement and then go on to say youve supported every celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

So why is this behavior ok for KG but not for Smart?  Dont give me rookie, earning his stripe nonsense either.  Youre clearly riding around on your moral high horse here.  Garnett has thrown elbows and then flopped when the player retaliates, Garnett has started these little fake fights, hes even taken groin shots.  So enlighten me to the difference that made it ok for you to be a fan of Garnett in celtic green for all these years yet you cant stand Marcus Smart

The only thing Smart and KG would have in common is......0 (Zero) NCAA tournament victories.......

Way to dodge the question!! you clearly have an axe to grind so any kind of rational argument is going out the window.

If you'd like video evidence of Kevin Garnett doing everythin you had mentioned previously I can make that happen for you.  It's already been posted in this thread once.

KG also won a championship for the Celtics. How does his name get involved in this Marcus Smart mess? Makes no sense

[gpap]

amazing how with video evidence people can still disagree so passionately, no wonder some people that commit heinous crimes get acquitted even when there is overwhelming evidence of guilt.
Bottom line here is Marcus Smart is not Kevin Garnett (this is for all who have tried to compare him to KG). Marcus has not played a full NBA season and we are already talking about two ejections for flagrant fouls. For all that argue that the foul was not intentional, of course it was. You do not get to a flagrant foul without intent. Once you agree that it was an intentional foul, the question naturally becomes why direct the foul at the man's package? If it was inadvertent as claimed by Smart why square up with Bonner after the contact. Why not pat him on the back to say 'no ill feelings'? Oh, I bet that would dent the thuggish image he is trying to project.

To those who want to compare this guy to Posey or Rodman. Well I don't think either of those guys was picked with the #6 pick in the draft nor were they ever the face of any franchise. They were role player and part of that role was the 'enforcer' role. Is that what you want from Smart? Face of franchise or enforcer?

It's because once people have their minds made up about someone or something, there's no swaying or convincing them, unfortunately.

[kozlodoev]

youre right he isnt as good, for now.  its still early.  the fact remains though hes cut from the same cloth.

The fact remains that when you're a star, you can get away with a lot of stuff in the NBA. When you're Marcus Smart... not so much.  That's why you should be worried about him developing a reputation before being an established player.

Maybe it's not fair, but that's the way it is.

[greg683x]

He will probably get suspended a game or two. It's really not a big deal.

In fact it is. Whacking two guys in two weeks will get you a reputation in the NBA. And having a reputation goes a long way when it comes to how you're treated by the officials.

Kevin Garnett's reputation didn't cause him trouble with the officials.

I think Smart will get suspended 2 games at worst, one at best. I was surprised by his behaviour but it happens.

Why would you be surprised? Smart was the most hated player in the Big 12 for a reason. Did this not happen multiple times last year? Flopping and dirty plays and then he wants to fake fight everyone.

I do not care how good he may or may not be now or in the future(not very good IMO). I cannot stand this draft pick and I have embraced every Celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

Now you know why Wayne Selden tweeted on draft night........."Oh know, not my Celtics!"'

You just described Kevin Garnett with that bolded statement and then go on to say youve supported every celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

So why is this behavior ok for KG but not for Smart?  Dont give me rookie, earning his stripe nonsense either.  Youre clearly riding around on your moral high horse here.  Garnett has thrown elbows and then flopped when the player retaliates, Garnett has started these little fake fights, hes even taken groin shots.  So enlighten me to the difference that made it ok for you to be a fan of Garnett in celtic green for all these years yet you cant stand Marcus Smart

The only thing Smart and KG would have in common is......0 (Zero) NCAA tournament victories.......

Way to dodge the question!! you clearly have an axe to grind so any kind of rational argument is going out the window.

If you'd like video evidence of Kevin Garnett doing everythin you had mentioned previously I can make that happen for you.  It's already been posted in this thread once.

KG also won a championship for the Celtics. How does his name get involved in this Marcus Smart mess? Makes no sense

so if we win a title none of this matters anymore?  Since your morals go out the window when winning comes into play I hear Ray Rice and Ben Roethlisberger are great basketball players.

[guava_wrench]

He will probably get suspended a game or two. It's really not a big deal.

In fact it is. Whacking two guys in two weeks will get you a reputation in the NBA. And having a reputation goes a long way when it comes to how you're treated by the officials.

Kevin Garnett's reputation didn't cause him trouble with the officials.

I think Smart will get suspended 2 games at worst, one at best. I was surprised by his behaviour but it happens.

Why would you be surprised? Smart was the most hated player in the Big 12 for a reason. Did this not happen multiple times last year? Flopping and dirty plays and then he wants to fake fight everyone.

I do not care how good he may or may not be now or in the future(not very good IMO). I cannot stand this draft pick and I have embraced every Celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

Now you know why Wayne Selden tweeted on draft night........."Oh know, not my Celtics!"'

You just described Kevin Garnett with that bolded statement and then go on to say youve supported every celtic going back to Sidney Wicks.

So why is this behavior ok for KG but not for Smart?  Dont give me rookie, earning his stripe nonsense either.  Youre clearly riding around on your moral high horse here.  Garnett has thrown elbows and then flopped when the player retaliates, Garnett has started these little fake fights, hes even taken groin shots.  So enlighten me to the difference that made it ok for you to be a fan of Garnett in celtic green for all these years yet you cant stand Marcus Smart

It's called "special pleading"