Post Game: Crowder says Stevens needs to hold players more accountable

[clover]

Well this it too bad. The team doesn't have the talent to compete.  Ainge hired Stevens with the expectation that this team will be terrible for 3-5 years... Hence the 6 year deal.  Stevens job is to develop players for the future. He isn't here to win right now.  Problem is, it's really hard for a coach to keep the Locker room healthy when they are losing consistently.

What needs to happen is for us to eliminate the veterans from the roster. These guys will not respect brad.  Ainge is trying to dump them as quickly as possible but it can't happen soon enough.  The kids like young, Oly and smart should be fine here.  They are still trying to make a name for themselves so they can get paid. Winning doesn't really matter to them. 

I understand that because these comments are coming from an unproven player like crowder it kind of goes against what I'm saying, but it seems to me that the sooner we get rid of guys like bass, green, Wallace and jameer, the sooner the kids can lose in peace and everyone will just be happy to get NBA minutes.

the team was built poorly before Rondo left and it's only gotten worse. I think it's kind of by design by Ainge. just a collection of players, most of which whose talents would be better suited getting some mins. on a playoff team...and then a bunch of young guys running around like the chicken with no head.

and while I don't think Stevens is tanking I actually believe he's trying to win. but I think Stevens is in on danny's plan to tank.

if they don't get what it is they're holding out for in return for green/bass and end up settling for a rondo deal. we can look at this as another mistake.

I certainly hope you're right about Stevens being more in on Danny's plan than trying to win above all else. Otherwise--yikes!

[Dchuck]

I certainly do not blame Stevens for anything these past 2 years!  There are situational, play calling, rotation and coaching "style" issues everyone can question. HOWEVER, from the time he was hired    (6 yr contract, mind you) it has been...."We about to blow this Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. up" mode and every player was put on notice. 

Look at the state of the team, expiring and lame contracts, no "stars", just got rid of our captain.  Everyone to a man has no idea if they'll be pulled out of a game because they need to go clean out their locker.  Everyone, particularly Green and Bass, knows it's just a matter of time before they're being shipped out.  No excuse, but it's not a rosy situation for these guys.  I think it's more important to have a more realistic expectation of this team and especially Stevens. 

No one knows what this team is gonna look like in 2 weeks or by mid February much less at the start of next season.  This team needs a psychologist more than a coach right now.  I think it would be terribly unfortunate to see Stevens leave before he has an opportunity to actually coach a team with no one looking over their shoulders and that want to be here!

[TheTruthFot18]

Wonderful. Sounds like the Locker room is nice and strong... Getting my sarcasm?

Yeah, I think losing will do it. Funny it's the new guy speaking.

I think its better that the new guy is saying it. Crowder has been good too

[Who]

Do not like hearing players say their coach doesn't hold players accountable.

Very bad sign about head coach.

[sed522002]

Wonderful. Sounds like the Locker room is nice and strong... Getting my sarcasm?

Yeah, I think losing will do it. Funny it's the new guy speaking.

I think its better that the new guy is saying it. Crowder has been good too

He's also coming from a completely different situation. With the Mavs, they were working towards the playoffs and contending for a championship. The preparation and atmosphere is probably extremely different when you're playing for a team that's contending for the draft.

[footey]

Wonderful. Sounds like the Locker room is nice and strong... Getting my sarcasm?

Yeah, I think losing will do it. Funny it's the new guy speaking.

New guy is the one who saw a coach in Dallas hold his players accountable. No surprise.

[footey]

Do not like hearing players say their coach doesn't hold players accountable.

Very bad sign about head coach.

Yeah, starting to wonder if Stevens has the toughness to coach in NBA.  Not many successful NBA coaches are nice guys. Maybe as persons (Doc) but not as coaches (Doc).

[Fafnir]

Do not like hearing players say their coach doesn't hold players accountable.

Very bad sign about head coach.

Yup.

[SHAQATTACK]

Stevens is dealing with grown men being paid ...in a money driven business.....high stakes

He is good with teens .....but the vets ,I'm not sure he know s how to lead.?

He needs to man up some.  A little Scott Skiles tuff ness .

I'm also starting to feel that Stevens is NOT putting in the work.  Yes....there is TOO much wrong ....if your working hard ..then the result has to look better than it does.  I don't think the Celtics are getting their end of the deal .  He is overpaid.

So either he doesn't know how to coach  or. He isn't putting in the effort?

One or both .....

I look at the Hawks and the Trailblazers head coaches .....they are in control ..totally no question

Even Jason Kidd seems more comfortable to me and more confident than Stevens

Stevens ....looks lost , not comfortable at all and in over his head . 

It's not necessarily a nice league. Coach Pop is an a hole , I see nothing nice about him , he comes off as a jerk ,  but he gets respect.


Danny has a hot head...maybe HE needs to sit on the bench some ......the message is not getting across

[RockinRyA]

its hard to put on a set rotation when you are figuring out what kind of players you have, finding out who are the keepers and the tradeable assets, then building them up for what you want their role is. This is what rebuilding is.

[SHAQATTACK]

Last night s team

Did not even looked coached

The whole staff sucks, we lost the only decent coach to F n Steve Kerr

The water boy could have been coaching from what I witness.


Celtics looked like a pick up team .....I never saw Stevens staring into their faces individually and holding them accountable .  I saw very little personal one on one leadership ....arm around a player giving advice and encouragement .

Celtics were playing UNCOACHED last night.

It was horrific mess.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

That's a ballsy thing to say like 4 games into joining a team, but I like it.

I am not sure why I want to tank more now: to get a top tier prospect, or so we don't lose in 4 games to the Hawks.  Ugh, I would hate watching that more than anything

As bad as the East is, and even though the Cs are only a few games out of a playoff spot, I don't think we need to be concerned about Boston accidentally making the playoffs. This team is bad, and trending worse, and I can't see a midseason trade that's going to make this team better in the short term.

[the_Bird]

Do not like hearing players say their coach doesn't hold players accountable.

Very bad sign about head coach.

Yup.  Especially from a guy who's been here for about a week. 

Stevens has no control over that locker room.  Train's a wreckin'.

[the_Bird]

The ship be sinking...

[Evantime34]

If I had to guess I would say Crowder's comments are in regard to everyone playing in the game no matter what. I think if Stevens picked an 8 or 9 man rotation based on play then stuck with it as long as guys played hard then players wouldn't feel that way.