D-Will, Lopez, and Joe Johnson supposedly available for trades

[sofutomygaha]

There really aren't any moves out there for the Nets that help them contend this year.  I mean, those players are so expensive... *maybe* properly valued when healthy and cap killers when not.

The Nets best hope is to get LA, Denver, and Sacramento on the phone and hope one does something irrational.

We could conceivably send them some contracts for Lopez, but I can't see us giving them anything that helps them contend.

[JohnBoy65]

This could be a moon shot, but we need a defensive minded big. Any way to get KG back in Boston? He's not the long term answer but he could help us defensively at the end of games and be a mentor to Sully, KO, Zeller, Etc.

I don't understand this train of thought.

1. we won't win the title this year, short term upgrades not part of the future don't make sense due to this.
2. if we can't win the title, why not just enjoy watching basketball and not are about wins and losses, focus on players development.  Another facet which will be retarded if we bring KG back. 
3. I know other people won't agree with this, but a well played and entertaining game in which we lose is the best possible outcome in my book.

I think this team can make the playoffs, and I am hoping we will. If we make the playoffs isn't our goal to make it as far as we can? Like I said I think KG is still a good defender, and can help us there. He wouldn't be sent here to be our go to scorer.

I think his mentality and 'coaching' would help tons.

[sofutomygaha]

Here's the best thing I can think of- If Memphis wants to go all-in this year, they offer a package with Kosta Koufos (expiring), Tayshaun Prince (expiring), and whatever fits for Brook Lopez.

Memphis, who would probably lose Koufos next year anyway, would have the best backup center in the league, a way to manage minutes in the regular season, and an alternative if they can't retain Marc Gasol next year. Brooklyn would get out of Lopez's contract and would have a year to work with a nice, steadily improving young center.

[LooseCannon]

If the Nets could dump one of those players and clear enough cap space so that a hypothetical free agent could choose between Brooklyn or Boston for the same amount of money and playing time (assume the Celtics could salary dump a contract like Gerald Wallace, if necessary), do people really believe that Boston is such a turn-off for free agents that this hypothetical player is guaranteed to go to the Nets if those are his only two options?

[GratefulCs]

Imagine winning the championship and the lottery in 2018


I bet those Ainge haters will change their tune


No guarantee, but this is potentially an Aurbachian move

[mgent]

Bass, Wallace, 2 firsts
Lopez

Lopez would average 25 ppg, Rondo would average 15 assists.

[JohnBoy65]

Bass, Wallace, 2 firsts
Lopez

Lopez would average 25 ppg, Rondo would average 15 assists.

That's too much. Who needs Brook Lopez? No one really that will drive the price down. I say give them Bass, Wallace, and Cleveland's first. I'd even swap in there the two Philly 2nd rounders.

[TwinTower14]

Bass, Wallace, 2 firsts
Lopez

Lopez would average 25 ppg, Rondo would average 15 assists.

2 Things on this trade -

1 - Rondo is not going to be on the C's next year
2 - Lopez can't stay healthy...

Why bail Brooklyn out and give them picks for a guy that can't play more than 20 games! 

[Beat LA]

Imagine winning the championship and the lottery in 2018


I bet those Ainge haters will change their tune


No guarantee, but this is potentially an Aurbachian move

I understand what you're saying, but Red never would have traded Pierce or Garnett.

[KGs Knee]

No way do I want any part of Brook Lopez.  Dude play zero defense and may be the worst rebounding 7 footer besides Bargnani in the league, as well as being constantly injured.

Johnson is getting too old, and I'd rather just roll with Jeff Green at a fraction of the price.

DWill is interesting though.  I think him and Rondo could make a very potent dual PG backcourt.


We'd need a defensive anchor in the middle to make it work though, so I would only do a deal that leaves us the financial flexibility to acquire one.  Otherwise, I see no point.

[GratefulCs]

Imagine winning the championship and the lottery in 2018


I bet those Ainge haters will change their tune


No guarantee, but this is potentially an Aurbachian move

I understand what you're saying, but Red never would have traded Pierce or Garnett.

Ya, you're probably right about that.


Danny is such a snake, but I love what he does.


It's strange these days. Loyalty is close to gone. Both from the players and management (around the league)

[gpap]

No way do I want any part of Brook Lopez.  Dude play zero defense and may be the worst rebounding 7 footer besides Bargnani in the league, as well as being constantly injured.

Johnson is getting too old, and I'd rather just roll with Jeff Green at a fraction of the price.

DWill is interesting though.  I think him and Rondo could make a very potent dual PG backcourt.


We'd need a defensive anchor in the middle to make it work though, so I would only do a deal that leaves us the financial flexibility to acquire one.  Otherwise, I see no point.

It is interesting as another poster brought this up.

However, I would think Brooklyn might want Rondo back in return and on top of that, I am not sure Rondo and DWill would work because they're both strong personalities that need the ball in their hands.

[gpap]

Wonder if this would work.

Celts get: Deron and Lopez
Pistons get: Thornton and Bass
Nets get: Rondo, Smith, Zeller and their 2016 1st rounder back.

Then shop around for a back-up center in the event Lopez gets injured.

This would be a pretty nice lineup

DWill/Smart
Bradley/Turner
Green/Wallace
Sully/Olynyk
Lopez/???

[Beat LA]

No way do I want any part of Brook Lopez.  Dude play zero defense and may be the worst rebounding 7 footer besides Bargnani in the league, as well as being constantly injured.

Johnson is getting too old, and I'd rather just roll with Jeff Green at a fraction of the price.

DWill is interesting though.  I think him and Rondo could make a very potent dual PG backcourt.


We'd need a defensive anchor in the middle to make it work though, so I would only do a deal that leaves us the financial flexibility to acquire one.  Otherwise, I see no point.

Don't forget Hibbert, in terms of rebounding.  Both guys are like James Edwards on the boards, lol.  Besides, if you think that KO's lateral quickness is atrocious (which it is, unfortunately), Brook Lopez makes him look like Brandon Bass.  He's horrible, defensively, and shoots too many jumpers now, so, no.

I don't agree that Joe is too old, however.  Yes, his contract sucks, but like Paul Pierce, JJ's game has never been based on athleticism, especially because of his sick handle, so while he might not have Paul's footwork (which Joe said was is the best in the league during that 2012 series), Johnson's game will age very well, imo.

As far as Deron Williams, what has happened to this guy?  People, wrongly, used to say that he was at least tied with CP3 in terms of being the best point guard in the league, despite the fact that he's never been a good defender, and now?  Now, his game has fallen off so dramatically that it's not even funny, and if that isn't enough, he's a coach killer.  How bad do you have to be to force Jerry Sloan to step down?  Stephon Marbury wasn't nearly that bad, and yet he is someone vilified, while D-Will goes largely unscathed.  DO NOT WANT.  He is the antithesis of what the Celtics are all about.  Let him go play with Kobe, or maybe even Wade.  Now that would be an interesting move, to put Williams alongside of Wade, Deng, and Bosh, although I have no idea how the salaries could ever work.

Just ask yourself this question - if Rondo had been on that Nets team last year, despite coming back from surgery, would Brooklyn have beaten Miami?  I say yes - unquestionably.  I know that Williams was hurt, but he didn't even score in one game, let alone facilitate, and he had absolutely ZERO IMPACT on the outcome of that series.  He's a fraud.

[SHAQATTACK]

Trade Wallace and Bass

For

KG and Lopez




Would. Not have Deron Williams diva .....for free on the Celtics.....  jUNK overrated turd

He can stay FAR away from Boston ......Please.