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Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2014, 10:30:37 AM »

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One or two years of this would be my limit as a 76 er fan.   

Rebuilding is one thing or  taking a dive to get a couple lottery picks if you are already one of the worst teams .

But to....just play BAD. Players , with huge cap,space ,  not put anyone on the court that has a chance of being a starter in the NBA is ....... Sick

Really ....the person behind this is really a bad person, he obviously doesn't care about the fans in the seats at all .  Totally out of touch with his fans

Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2014, 10:38:15 AM »

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Nerlen Noel didn't play and was marked as "coach's decision"

#tanking

Do they let Nerlens play in these worthless games and possibly develop bad habits and a bad attitude or do you hold  him out and deny him the in-game experience young players have to get?

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Don't play him for the next 3 seasons of worthless games.  Then trade him because he is too old for the rebuilding plan.

+1....Took the words right out of my mouth.

Last year what they did was almost tolerable, because they beat us a couple of times.  I never liked the '6ers, but this crap brings my dislike to a whole new level.

Even the tactic of stashing players overseas seems dirty when it's done by them, This sentiment is shared by many.

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Some around the league have argued that stashing some of the players overseas is a blatant tanking tactic, since plenty of NBA minutes are available on the Sixers.

The San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder have also used a similar tactic by stashing talented players overseas to keep their rookie right

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/235496/76ers-Using-International-Leagues-To-Stash-Young-Talent

At least the Spurs and Thunder, while doing this were still trying to win games.

Karma will get the '6ers.

Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2014, 10:39:50 AM »

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One more tidbit from me.
I know every NBA players, at least 95 %. However when I look at the boxscore of sixers games I have problems to recognize any of them besides Noel. Their roster is an all time worst.

Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2014, 10:47:09 AM »

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I would trade lives with a sixers fan 10 times over. Promising future, in 2-3 years they could be the next okc

That's actually hilarious.  Who on that team has displayed KD potential?  The Celtics have a brighter future right now.

I like Embiid but he has played 0 minutes.  Noel is super raw.  MCW looks like an average PG.
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Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2014, 11:01:11 AM »

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Let me add to my origianl post,


I have no problem with "Tanking" but in my eyes their is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

The RIGHT way,

  - trade for poor contracts in trade for picks
  - trade for under performing high ceiling players
  - play rookies/young players thru growing pains

The WRONG way,

  - trade then release players to fill spots with D-league players
  - filling a roster with cheap low ceiling prospects

The 76ers are currently doing things the wrong way in my eyes. As a nba fan they leave nothing of interest to watch. Most other bottom feeding teams have youth to give hope to the future that fans can watch develop. I would have liked to see them build a high potential starting 5. This could have been achieved by focusing on acquiring top picks from the past years who haven't panned out. Players like D Williams, A Bennet, A Rivers, B Biyombo, J Fredette, etc. A lineup of MCW, Fredette, Bennet, Williams and Noel would still be at the bottom of the lottery but at least they would bring some entertainment value to the court. It would also allow Noel to try to break the shots block record with all the open drive to the hoop he would get to contest.     
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Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2014, 11:03:26 AM »

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Nerlen Noel didn't play and was marked as "coach's decision"

#tanking

Do they let Nerlens play in these worthless games and possibly develop bad habits and a bad attitude or do you hold  him out and deny him the in-game experience young players have to get?

Mike
Don't play him for the next 3 seasons of worthless games.  Then trade him because he is too old for the rebuilding plan.

+1....Took the words right out of my mouth.

Last year what they did was almost tolerable, because they beat us a couple of times.  I never liked the '6ers, but this crap brings my dislike to a whole new level.

Even the tactic of stashing players overseas seems dirty when it's done by them, This sentiment is shared by many.

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Some around the league have argued that stashing some of the players overseas is a blatant tanking tactic, since plenty of NBA minutes are available on the Sixers.

The San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder have also used a similar tactic by stashing talented players overseas to keep their rookie right

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/235496/76ers-Using-International-Leagues-To-Stash-Young-Talent

At least the Spurs and Thunder, while doing this were still trying to win games.

Karma will get the '6ers.

I dont even think its Karma that will get them. I think winning basketball needs to be learned a developed in a franchise. The team has to develop a winning environment to develop their young players. 
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Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2014, 11:10:51 AM »

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Maybe just a higher salary floor and harsher penalty for not meeting it would help.


Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2014, 11:23:32 AM »

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Let me add to my origianl post,


I have no problem with "Tanking" but in my eyes their is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

The RIGHT way,

  - trade for poor contracts in trade for picks
  - trade for under performing high ceiling players
  - play rookies/young players thru growing pains

The WRONG way,

  - trade then release players to fill spots with D-league players
  - filling a roster with cheap low ceiling prospects

The 76ers are currently doing things the wrong way in my eyes. As a nba fan they leave nothing of interest to watch. Most other bottom feeding teams have youth to give hope to the future that fans can watch develop. I would have liked to see them build a high potential starting 5. This could have been achieved by focusing on acquiring top picks from the past years who haven't panned out. Players like D Williams, A Bennet, A Rivers, B Biyombo, J Fredette, etc. A lineup of MCW, Fredette, Bennet, Williams and Noel would still be at the bottom of the lottery but at least they would bring some entertainment value to the court. It would also allow Noel to try to break the shots block record with all the open drive to the hoop he would get to contest.     

You're suggesting that they should just fill out their roster with busts simply because "they're entertaining."  I don't see anything that's more entertaining in watching Derrick Williams brick shot after shot and Austin Rivers do nothing of any remote value over watching K.J. McDaniels block a ridiculous number of shots as a wing player.

That said, how is a roster comprised of the likes of MCW, Noel, Embiid, Wroten, K.J. McDaniels, Grant, Sampson, and so on NOT one full of "youth to give hope to the future that fans can watch develop?"  That is literally the entire Sixers roster, save for two players: young prospects whom they hope will be good contributors in a few years.  If you think a guy like Derrick Williams has a higher ceiling than everyone on the Sixers roster, I wholeheartedly disagree.
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Re: A little 76ers bashing
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2014, 11:25:49 AM »

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MCW is injured and they are being cautious with Noel given his injury issue.  And the stat is a bit misleading since both Sims and Thompson started for Philly down the stretch last year (as did Wroten), and are doing so again this year.
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Re: A little 76ers bashing
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2014, 11:31:38 AM »

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They're not even being cautious with Noel, he's legitimately injured. He sprained his ankle in the game before yesterday's, so he's out until he's cleared.  It has nothing to do with subtle tanking as others implied, the guy just got hurt.

Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2014, 11:36:13 AM »

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Let me add to my origianl post,


I have no problem with "Tanking" but in my eyes their is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

The RIGHT way,

  - trade for poor contracts in trade for picks
  - trade for under performing high ceiling players
  - play rookies/young players thru growing pains

The WRONG way,

  - trade then release players to fill spots with D-league players
  - filling a roster with cheap low ceiling prospects

The 76ers are currently doing things the wrong way in my eyes. As a nba fan they leave nothing of interest to watch. Most other bottom feeding teams have youth to give hope to the future that fans can watch develop. I would have liked to see them build a high potential starting 5. This could have been achieved by focusing on acquiring top picks from the past years who haven't panned out. Players like D Williams, A Bennet, A Rivers, B Biyombo, J Fredette, etc. A lineup of MCW, Fredette, Bennet, Williams and Noel would still be at the bottom of the lottery but at least they would bring some entertainment value to the court. It would also allow Noel to try to break the shots block record with all the open drive to the hoop he would get to contest.     

You're suggesting that they should just fill out their roster with busts simply because "they're entertaining."

That said, how is a roster comprised of the likes of MCW, Noel, Embiid, Wroten, K.J. McDaniels, and so on NOT one full of "youth to give hope to future that fans can watch develop?"  That is literally the entire Sixers roster: young prospects whom they hope will be good contributors in a few years.

Embiid is out for the year. MCW, Wroten, McDaniels, and Noel im in agreement with you they are developmental prospects. Mbah a Moute and Shved are NBA role players. The other 8 are 14th-15th men on most other NBA rosters.

My point with the "busts" is that they are low production but higher potential players. Given minutes and no worries about being benched they have a chance to save their careers. 
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2014, 11:42:03 AM »

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One more tidbit from me.
I know every NBA players, at least 95 %. However when I look at the boxscore of sixers games I have problems to recognize any of them besides Noel. Their roster is an all time worst.

They're not quite as bad as the 1997-1998 Nuggets.
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Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2014, 11:48:18 AM »

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Embiid is out for the year. MCW, Wroten, McDaniels, and Noel im in agreement with you they are developmental prospects. Mbah a Moute and Shved are NBA role players. The other 8 are 14th-15th men on most other NBA rosters.

My point with the "busts" is that they are low production but higher potential players. Given minutes and no worries about being benched they have a chance to save their careers.

+1....Completely agree. But they won't do it because that may win them some games.

Evan Turner is a perfect example of that. THEIR #2 pick who may not have played as a #2 pick, but still had enough talent and versatility to win them more games than they wanted.

Heck, he beat us last year with a last second shot, taking it into the point and hitting an off balance pull-up jumper. He was shortly thereafter traded to the Pacers for the then corpse of Danny Granger.

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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2014, 12:02:45 PM »

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One more tidbit from me.
I know every NBA players, at least 95 %. However when I look at the boxscore of sixers games I have problems to recognize any of them besides Noel. Their roster is an all time worst.

They're not quite as bad as the 1997-1998 Nuggets.

I'm not old enough to know that team. Were that roster really worse? Don't count Embiid and MCW because they are injured right now. So in this case who is worse?

Re: i little 76ers bashing
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2014, 12:06:45 PM »

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One more tidbit from me.
I know every NBA players, at least 95 %. However when I look at the boxscore of sixers games I have problems to recognize any of them besides Noel. Their roster is an all time worst.

They're not quite as bad as the 1997-1998 Nuggets.

I'm not old enough to know that team. Were that roster really worse? Don't count Embiid and MCW because they are injured right now. So in this case who is worse?

They won 11 games. They were really, really, bad.

 http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/1998.html

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