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Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2014, 08:55:17 AM »

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If he would definitely miss a game because of the screw removal, it would be better for him to miss the second game of a back to back against a strong team on the road instead of a home game against a depleted Thunder if the goal is to maximize team wins.

Maybe it's bothering him and maybe he wants it done sooner rather than later so that he can be 100% against Cleveland.  After all, that is a nationally televised game (in Canada).
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Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2014, 09:43:41 AM »

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If he would definitely miss a game because of the screw removal, it would be better for him to miss the second game of a back to back against a strong team on the road instead of a home game against a depleted Thunder if the goal is to maximize team wins.

Maybe it's bothering him and maybe he wants it done sooner rather than later so that he can be 100% against Cleveland.  After all, that is a nationally televised game (in Canada).

Maybe I can buy into this. Good points

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2014, 09:53:35 AM »

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When Rondo is in our offense consists of Rondo dribbling the ball and making one pass to a guy who takes a shot.

It will be interesting to see what our offense looks like tonight. Losing both Rondo and Smart might open some time for James Young. I hope so.

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2014, 10:13:02 AM »

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So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.
I don't buy the Rondo pouting and deciding to skip a game theory, but I am glad you brought up that Rondo did not play for most of the 4th quarter of a close, winnable game last night.  His previous 3 games were 37, 37, and 34 minutes but this game he only played 28 minutes.

Good for Stevens if he did take Rondo out because he didn't like something about how Rondo was playing (we were down 3 when Rondo came out and up 5 when Rondo was put back in) but is that really what was going on?  I was watching the game on TV but with distractions but it seemed Rondo was moving the ball pretty well.

Any theories or additional information on this?

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2014, 10:37:32 AM »

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Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2014, 10:43:49 AM »

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So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.
I don't buy the Rondo pouting and deciding to skip a game theory, but I am glad you brought up that Rondo did not play for most of the 4th quarter of a close, winnable game last night.  His previous 3 games were 37, 37, and 34 minutes but this game he only played 28 minutes.

Good for Stevens if he did take Rondo out because he didn't like something about how Rondo was playing (we were down 3 when Rondo came out and up 5 when Rondo was put back in) but is that really what was going on?  I was watching the game on TV but with distractions but it seemed Rondo was moving the ball pretty well.

Any theories or additional information on this?
maybe stevens did not like something rondo was doing, or not doing, or a match up, or maybe he went with a "hot hand" in pressey, or rondo was winded. but i looked over the box score and none of the starters logged a lot of minutes. sully was tops with 33 rondo with 29 minutes was lowest. the other three starters were in between.

maybe stevens is following up on the idea we saw early on, play the bench and go with depth when the bench seems productive.

that seems to make more sense, too me, than the suggestions offered above. sometimes ockham's razor is the best approach.
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Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2014, 10:47:42 AM »

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So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.
I don't buy the Rondo pouting and deciding to skip a game theory, but I am glad you brought up that Rondo did not play for most of the 4th quarter of a close, winnable game last night.  His previous 3 games were 37, 37, and 34 minutes but this game he only played 28 minutes.

Good for Stevens if he did take Rondo out because he didn't like something about how Rondo was playing (we were down 3 when Rondo came out and up 5 when Rondo was put back in) but is that really what was going on?  I was watching the game on TV but with distractions but it seemed Rondo was moving the ball pretty well.

Any theories or additional information on this?

The fact that is missed is that most of our bench players where the ones on the floor in the 4th quarter because they were on a roll, so singling out Rondo is foolish.

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2014, 10:54:49 AM »

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It's possible that Stevens gave Pressey some extra minutes because he already knew that Rondo wouldn't be going to Chicago, so he wanted to know how much playing time he should give Pressey.  I'd expect the team to not announce when Rondo was having the screw removed until the last possible moment (when it would be noted that Rondo was not on the plane) to give the Bulls the minimum time to game plan for a lineup change.
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Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2014, 10:59:20 AM »

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It's possible that Stevens gave Pressey some extra minutes because he already knew that Rondo wouldn't be going to Chicago, so he wanted to know how much playing time he should give Pressey.  I'd expect the team to not announce when Rondo was having the screw removed until the last possible moment (when it would be noted that Rondo was not on the plane) to give the Bulls the minimum time to game plan for a lineup change.

Pressey was playing well, the unit he was in was playing well... very well in fact. There's no need to read more into it. This is not an aberration of any sort for this particular coach, or many coaches in general when you have a bench and a functioning unit who are having a very good stretch, even if it's the 4th quarter.... momentum, and all that.

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2014, 11:01:38 AM »

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After a while Rondo sucks the life out of an offense with his ball hogging.

The offense becomes one dimensional.

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2014, 11:04:28 AM »

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The fact that is missed is that most of our bench players where the ones on the floor in the 4th quarter because they were on a roll, so singling out Rondo is foolish.

It is a thread about Rondo so I am not sure how I am singling him out.  The fact is that the team at that moment in time played better after they took Rondo out.  There are certainly other factors in play but if Rondo is the "build a contending team around him" guy; "best player on a contending team" guy, there should not be any situation where the team plays better in the 4th quarter of a close game with him out of the game.

It is not like they were trying to rest him for the second game of a back to back since they must have known that he was not going to Chicago anyway.  Maybe Rondo was "winded" as suggested above.  Maybe his hand was sore or his knee was sore.  Or maybe the coach thought the team would play better with him on the bench.

In any of these cases, when it is your best player, it is a story and if that is "singling him out" then I say it comes with the territory.  It is not like they chose to play Bass over Olynyk.  They chose Pressey over Rondo and I am the "foolish" one to raise it as a question or to wonder about why? (yes, I took a little offense at that).

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2014, 11:04:53 AM »

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Rondo had stopped moving the ball in the 3rd. Got pulled immediately after a bad pass to no one out of bounds, he also had jacked up an ugly three few plays before.

Stevens was sending a mini message and lucked out that Pressy played so well. In. Y opinion.  Probably no hard feelings either way.

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2014, 11:05:41 AM »

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Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2014, 11:13:57 AM »

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It's possible that Stevens gave Pressey some extra minutes because he already knew that Rondo wouldn't be going to Chicago, so he wanted to know how much playing time he should give Pressey.  I'd expect the team to not announce when Rondo was having the screw removed until the last possible moment (when it would be noted that Rondo was not on the plane) to give the Bulls the minimum time to game plan for a lineup change.

Pressey was playing well, the unit he was in was playing well... very well in fact. There's no need to read more into it. This is not an aberration of any sort for this particular coach, or many coaches in general when you have a bench and a functioning unit who are having a very good stretch, even if it's the 4th quarter.... momentum, and all that.
There apparently must always be an ulterior motive of some kind.

Re: No Rondo tomorrow
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2014, 11:16:04 AM »

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The fact that is missed is that most of our bench players where the ones on the floor in the 4th quarter because they were on a roll, so singling out Rondo is foolish.

It is a thread about Rondo so I am not sure how I am singling him out.  The fact is that the team at that moment in time played better after they took Rondo out.  There are certainly other factors in play but if Rondo is the "build a contending team around him" guy; "best player on a contending team" guy, there should not be any situation where the team plays better in the 4th quarter of a close game with him out of the game.

It is not like they were trying to rest him for the second game of a back to back since they must have known that he was not going to Chicago anyway.  Maybe Rondo was "winded" as suggested above.  Maybe his hand was sore or his knee was sore.  Or maybe the coach thought the team would play better with him on the bench.

In any of these cases, when it is your best player, it is a story and if that is "singling him out" then I say it comes with the territory.  It is not like they chose to play Bass over Olynyk.  They chose Pressey over Rondo and I am the "foolish" one to raise it as a question or to wonder about why? (yes, I took a little offense at that).

It is foolish singling him out because it was quite evident that Pressey was hot, that the whole bench unit was hot and Stevens was going along with it. There was no message about benching, etc., etc. This has been Stevens MO since he began here.

Pressey was having a very good game, Stevens didn't want to take him out. Big deal. And yes, they chose to play Bass over Olynyk. They chose to play Wallace over Green.

I mean, the only reason anyone would want to single out Rondo is because either they have an agenda against Rondo, or weren't paying attention to the flow of the game, and more importantly at how good Pressey was playing during that stretch (why take him out?)


Rondo had stopped moving the ball in the 3rd. Got pulled immediately after a bad pass to no one out of bounds, he also had jacked up an ugly three few plays before.

Stevens was sending a mini message and lucked out that Pressy played so well. In. Y opinion.  Probably no hard feelings either way.

Other than you know, he was subbed out at the time when he is usually subbed out of the game, which is funny because Stevens had preached shorter stints for Rondo (5 minutes ones) and he keeps giving him 7-8 minute ones.

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