No Rondo tomorrow

[Evantime34]

With Smart and Rondo out, I hope we see a little bit of James Young tomorrow.

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So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.

I don't buy the Rondo pouting and deciding to skip a game theory, but I am glad you brought up that Rondo did not play for most of the 4th quarter of a close, winnable game last night.  His previous 3 games were 37, 37, and 34 minutes but this game he only played 28 minutes.

Good for Stevens if he did take Rondo out because he didn't like something about how Rondo was playing (we were down 3 when Rondo came out and up 5 when Rondo was put back in) but is that really what was going on?  I was watching the game on TV but with distractions but it seemed Rondo was moving the ball pretty well.

Any theories or additional information on this?

maybe stevens did not like something rondo was doing, or not doing, or a match up, or maybe he went with a "hot hand" in pressey, or rondo was winded. but i looked over the box score and none of the starters logged a lot of minutes. sully was tops with 33 rondo with 29 minutes was lowest. the other three starters were in between.

maybe stevens is following up on the idea we saw early on, play the bench and go with depth when the bench seems productive.

that seems to make more sense, too me, than the suggestions offered above. sometimes ockham's razor is the best approach.

TP just for an ockham's razor reference.  haha nice.

The fringe element is so eager to generate the conspiracy theories on things that no one on this board has a clue about, kind of misses the big picture. 

If Rondo needs to get the screw out of his hand and needs to miss a game to help him get to 100% so be it.  No big deal, get it done and get back asap. 

Meantime lets see if we can sneak up on the Bulls a bit and pull the upset.  Go C's!

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With Smart and Rondo out, I hope we see a little bit of James Young tomorrow.

Me too.  I hope he gets some minutes sometime before being sent off to maine, if that is the plan.

[hwangjini_1]

So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.

I don't buy the Rondo pouting and deciding to skip a game theory, but I am glad you brought up that Rondo did not play for most of the 4th quarter of a close, winnable game last night.  His previous 3 games were 37, 37, and 34 minutes but this game he only played 28 minutes.

Good for Stevens if he did take Rondo out because he didn't like something about how Rondo was playing (we were down 3 when Rondo came out and up 5 when Rondo was put back in) but is that really what was going on?  I was watching the game on TV but with distractions but it seemed Rondo was moving the ball pretty well.

Any theories or additional information on this?

maybe stevens did not like something rondo was doing, or not doing, or a match up, or maybe he went with a "hot hand" in pressey, or rondo was winded. but i looked over the box score and none of the starters logged a lot of minutes. sully was tops with 33 rondo with 29 minutes was lowest. the other three starters were in between.

maybe stevens is following up on the idea we saw early on, play the bench and go with depth when the bench seems productive.

that seems to make more sense, too me, than the suggestions offered above. sometimes ockham's razor is the best approach.

TP just for an ockham's razor reference.  haha nice.

The fringe element is so eager to generate the conspiracy theories on things that no one on this board has a clue about, kind of misses the big picture. 

If Rondo needs to get the screw out of his hand and needs to miss a game to help him get to 100% so be it.  No big deal, get it done and get back asap. 

Meantime lets see if we can sneak up on the Bulls a bit and pull the upset.  Go C's!

perhaps the best thing i have in this thread so far. 

[RJ87]

So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.

Because removing himself from the rotation out of spite fits everything we know about Rondo. He probably could've  come back from that acl tear much sooner, but he was trying to stick it to Danny and Brad.

[kozlodoev]

So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.

Because removing himself from the rotation out of spite fits everything we know about Rondo. He probably could've  come back from that acl tear much sooner, but he was trying to stick it to Danny and Brad.

It also makes zero sense to think that the screw removal wasn't something that was scheduled way before yesterday's game took place. Tin foil hat much? 

[BballTim]

When Rondo is in our offense consists of Rondo dribbling the ball and making one pass to a guy who takes a shot.

  That's not what generally happens in our games.

[BballTim]

So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.

  You'd have to assume that the appointment to get the screw removed was made ahead of time. Do you think he called the doctor after the game last night and demanded that he reschedule the procedure? Did he do the same with wherever the procedure is taking place? This theory seems absurd yet completely predictable.

[KeepRondo]

So this is how Rondo retaliates to being benched for nearly the entire 4th quarter in last night's game? The most logical thing to do would be to play and then remove the screw.
Someone tell me one reason why he wouldn't wait until after the game?  As someone pointed out we have a huge rest coming up and there's no need for Rondo to miss this game.

Very disappointed Rondo won't be playing when he obviously has the choice to.

I don't buy the Rondo pouting and deciding to skip a game theory, but I am glad you brought up that Rondo did not play for most of the 4th quarter of a close, winnable game last night.  His previous 3 games were 37, 37, and 34 minutes but this game he only played 28 minutes.

Good for Stevens if he did take Rondo out because he didn't like something about how Rondo was playing (we were down 3 when Rondo came out and up 5 when Rondo was put back in) but is that really what was going on?  I was watching the game on TV but with distractions but it seemed Rondo was moving the ball pretty well.

Any theories or additional information on this?

It makes sense for the short term success but I think Stevens has to start playing the starters more mins to get some more consistency.

[IlCapitano]

Nothing better than jumping to conlusions. LOL

He should've waited Sunday to do it and miss both Thunder and Cleveland.

Even with Rondo I don't see how we win this game. True, the Bulls also have some hot and cold performances but they're a top 3 team in the lague IMO. Not to mention how many problems we will have with their bigs and defending in the paint.

I'm expecting a blowout, hoping for a bad game on their side and a tight one if Green and Bradley go for 30+ points again.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

young, pressey, turner....we'll be okay.....wish we had smart....but we have Bradley....KO and Zeller will be busy with gasol and noah.....plenty to do here....we can beat them..!!!

[BballTim]

The fact that is missed is that most of our bench players where the ones on the floor in the 4th quarter because they were on a roll, so singling out Rondo is foolish.

It is a thread about Rondo so I am not sure how I am singling him out.  The fact is that the team at that moment in time played better after they took Rondo out.  There are certainly other factors in play but if Rondo is the "build a contending team around him" guy; "best player on a contending team" guy, there should not be any situation where the team plays better in the 4th quarter of a close game with him out of the game.

  I didn't see the game but I'd guess that he means that multiple starters were out of the game, and you're trying to attribute the entire change in play on Rondo and not the others.
 

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The fact that is missed is that most of our bench players where the ones on the floor in the 4th quarter because they were on a roll, so singling out Rondo is foolish.

It is a thread about Rondo so I am not sure how I am singling him out.  The fact is that the team at that moment in time played better after they took Rondo out.  There are certainly other factors in play but if Rondo is the "build a contending team around him" guy; "best player on a contending team" guy, there should not be any situation where the team plays better in the 4th quarter of a close game with him out of the game.

  I didn't see the game but I'd guess that he means that multiple starters were out of the game, and you're trying to attribute the entire change in play on Rondo and not the others.

It wasn't overly complicated.  All lot of bench guys were playing well last night.  Bass, Pressey, Turner all looked good.  Most of the starters sat during the stretch that rondo sat.  Brad was probably just letting them play a bit longer because they were playing well.  He brought green, rondo, ab back in to finish the game.

How something that is positive (our bench played well) gets twisted into Rondo was being 'sent a message' and pouting and now is missing games on purpose is beyond me.

[KeepRondo]

The fact that is missed is that most of our bench players where the ones on the floor in the 4th quarter because they were on a roll, so singling out Rondo is foolish.

It is a thread about Rondo so I am not sure how I am singling him out.  The fact is that the team at that moment in time played better after they took Rondo out.  There are certainly other factors in play but if Rondo is the "build a contending team around him" guy; "best player on a contending team" guy, there should not be any situation where the team plays better in the 4th quarter of a close game with him out of the game.

  I didn't see the game but I'd guess that he means that multiple starters were out of the game, and you're trying to attribute the entire change in play on Rondo and not the others.

Exactly. Green went cold after a hot start. Bradley never got it going. KO started off hot but then disappeared after. Besides Sullinger who Stevens left in, the entire starting line up was stalling. As much as I dislike giving minutes to Presley, he gave us a boost of energy.

[Vermont Green]

The fact that is missed is that most of our bench players where the ones on the floor in the 4th quarter because they were on a roll, so singling out Rondo is foolish.

It is a thread about Rondo so I am not sure how I am singling him out.  The fact is that the team at that moment in time played better after they took Rondo out.  There are certainly other factors in play but if Rondo is the "build a contending team around him" guy; "best player on a contending team" guy, there should not be any situation where the team plays better in the 4th quarter of a close game with him out of the game.

  I didn't see the game but I'd guess that he means that multiple starters were out of the game, and you're trying to attribute the entire change in play on Rondo and not the others.

It wasn't overly complicated.  All lot of bench guys were playing well last night.  Bass, Pressey, Turner all looked good.  Most of the starters sat during the stretch that rondo sat.  Brad was probably just letting them play a bit longer because they were playing well.  He brought green, rondo, ab back in to finish the game.

How something that is positive (our bench played well) gets twisted into Rondo was being 'sent a message' and pouting and now is missing games on purpose is beyond me.

In my first post I said that I don't buy the Rondo pouting theory and I don't but that is not the point.  Rondo is supposed to be capable of being the best player on a contending team.   He was compared to Isaiah Thomas in another thread.  Anyone who doesn't sing this out is called a Rondo basher. 

If he is the best player of that caliber, he should not be being replaced by Phil Pressey under any realistic circumstance.  It is different to say Bass was in for Olynyk or whatever.  I think that is news worthy and ripe for discussion/debate as to why.  If what you are saying is that Rondo is no more important to the team than Olynyk so Rondo-Pressey, Olynyk-Bass, just play whoever is hot, what are you saying about Rondo?

I think that is nearly as far fetched as the Rondo pouting theory.