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Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2014, 11:03:32 PM »

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Evan Turner is a frustrating player. I'm not a fan but he did play very well last night on offense.
His efficiency is terrible and he'll have games like this and games where he takes more shots instead of making an extra pass and frustrate you to no end.

I'm gonna give him 10 games and perhaps he's worked on his shooting. Stevens' system will force him to pass more or he'll be benched.

He may also make Green more aggressive when attacking the rim given they'll be competing for playing time.

I don't agree with people who say this is what this franchise needs right now but I understand where they're coming from. I'd rather give the minutes to James Young and Turner (to me) is another Jordan Crawford-He'll get a tonne of time and might be flipped for a 2nd round pick at some stage once his value is solid. To me all he's good for is being a solid, good value playoff wing in the mold that the Pacers wanted him to be.
Thank god we're only paying him 3 million.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for him to become an All star with us, I just don't see that happening and I can't see any long term future for him in Boston.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2014, 11:10:53 PM »

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Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2014, 11:38:03 PM »

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TP for the highlights, triboy16f.  All I have to say is, "dat crossover tho," ::) ahahaha ;D

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2014, 12:56:40 AM »

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Man I'm not even gonna worry about the haters. I think Turner could be really good for us.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2014, 07:11:35 AM »

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Same old, Turner, one or two dribbles too many. Ridiculous shots. Even the one he makes. And plays amazingly vs college level players. The only time he looks decent is when he is on a terrible team like the Celtics are now. He is horrific in efficiency wise.

Let Marcus Smart get 40 minutes a game this year so he can learn what the ball looks like when it hits the bottom of the net.

Turner is trash.

Way to keep an open mind.
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Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2014, 07:26:02 AM »

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I hated the signing, but come on, don't call him trash. That's uncalled for. He has very good passing and handles for a wing, so he fits nicely in the motion system. He could be a nice rotation player and it isn't his fault he was drafted 2nd overall.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2014, 07:56:20 AM »

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Same old, Turner, one or two dribbles too many. Ridiculous shots. Even the one he makes. And plays amazingly vs college level players. The only time he looks decent is when he is on a terrible team like the Celtics are now. He is horrific in efficiency wise.

Let Marcus Smart get 40 minutes a game this year so he can learn what the ball looks like when it hits the bottom of the net.

Turner is trash.

He was +19 =/-

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400583902


What game did you watch?  He has ALREADY FOOLED YOU.

I agree, we need to temper our expectations but you lost all credibility with " horrible efficiency wise".

Why validate his comments when it is pretty obvious he didn't read a box score nor understand what he saw at the game.   Superficial knee jerk analysis.
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Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2014, 08:57:20 AM »

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Turner isn't going to fool me either.

I saw how much money they agreed to spend on carrying the NBA in their new deal.

If they ever claim they're broke, we'll know they're not telling the truth.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2014, 09:03:54 AM »

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Same old, Turner, one or two dribbles too many. Ridiculous shots. Even the one he makes. And plays amazingly vs college level players. The only time he looks decent is when he is on a terrible team like the Celtics are now. He is horrific in efficiency wise.

Let Marcus Smart get 40 minutes a game this year so he can learn what the ball looks like when it hits the bottom of the net.

Turner is trash.

He was +19 =/-

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400583902


What game did you watch?  He has ALREADY FOOLED YOU.

I agree, we need to temper our expectations but you lost all credibility with " horrible efficiency wise".

Why validate his comments when it is pretty obvious he didn't read a box score nor understand what he saw at the game.   Superficial knee jerk analysis.

I think he means poor shot selection. Like the shots went in but they were inefficient shots, words being mixed up.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2014, 09:06:16 AM »

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Same old, Turner, one or two dribbles too many. Ridiculous shots. Even the one he makes. And plays amazingly vs college level players. The only time he looks decent is when he is on a terrible team like the Celtics are now. He is horrific in efficiency wise.

Let Marcus Smart get 40 minutes a game this year so he can learn what the ball looks like when it hits the bottom of the net.

Turner is trash.

He was +19 =/-

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400583902


What game did you watch?  He has ALREADY FOOLED YOU.

I agree, we need to temper our expectations but you lost all credibility with " horrible efficiency wise".

Why validate his comments when it is pretty obvious he didn't read a box score nor understand what he saw at the game.   Superficial knee jerk analysis.

your assuming what i meant by efficiency. So you were in fact wrong.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2014, 09:28:25 AM »

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your assuming what i meant by efficiency. So you were in fact wrong.

Then you fooled us, using a basketball stat instead of poor shot selection in your wording.

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I think he means poor shot selection. Like the shots went in but they were inefficient shots, words being mixed up

5 for 11, still not terrible folks.  I liked his layups where he drove and had a mismatch and could use his height vs shorter guards.  Any shot that goes in is not inefficient by my book.   By that rationale Bird would be inefficient in some of his off balance shots but they went in.

I still have low expectations for him but that being said, I still think he is one of the better players on the roster.
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Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2014, 09:38:47 AM »

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Wow! I'm not sure what game the person that started this thread was watching. I thought ET was the best player on the court in that game. He is very good all around player than can do a lot. Great pick-up for small money for the C's.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2014, 10:29:15 AM »

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Good challenge for Turner tonight.  I hope he crosses over Melo and makes him look silly.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2014, 10:38:12 AM »

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My opinion on players is that after they have been in the league 4-5 years they basically tend to be the player they were at that time. Sure, some players shoot slightly better or maybe develop a move or a shot they didn't have in their first few years but basically, their developmental path is pretty much done.

So with that said, Turner is what he is. He's a big SG/good size SF that rebounds well, has good passing ability, who likes the ball in his hands to create and doesn't have the best defensive skills, shooting prowess or decision making process. But given minutes, he will score, he will gooble up some rebounds and he will provide good energy and another ball handling player for you on the court.

In today's NBA that is probably worth $6-8 million a year. He's getting paid $3 milion a year. Is that maybe because he hasn't been the best locker room guy in the world? If you believe the rumors then maybe, but if he gives the Celtics on a per minute basis what he was giving Phiily for his last 2 and 1/2 years there per minute and isn't a locker room distraction, the Celtics have a massive bargain. MASSIVE BARGAIN.

But be prepared. Like Jeff Green Turner can be inconsistent in what he brings every night. He's going to have some horrible shooting nights and nights where his decision making or defense really hurt the team. Its what he does so you just gotta remember, he's not getting paid a lot so who cares. Nights like those will happen because it is what Evan Turner is.

I actually think it was a good addition, an addition that will look even better if Gerald Wallace is gone.

Re: Turner is not going to fool me
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2014, 12:28:17 PM »

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Evan Turner is a playmaker.  He exhibited an excellent all-around game, getting his teammates involved by distributing the ball as well as scoring himself when he got the opportunity. 

Turner also has a dribble that can make defenders look silly and allows him to penetrate the defense.  off that penetration he can then either dish or attempt to shoot himself.  Celtics have lacked this playmaker while Rondo was out.  Having two guards who can create will only help our offense in the long run.

It's really an exaggeration to call this player trash, especially after he just turned in a good effort that contributed greatly to the team win.