Ray Rice

[Neurotic Guy]

The harsh truth is, there are no victims in this world. Rice's wife made hundreds of individual decisions to stay with him prior to that incident. The "victims stance" is endemic to our culture, as anyone can pick it up and ward off all responsibility for anything. Rice got the consequences of his actions, the rest is between him and his wife..

I feel less sorry for someone that sticks around after years of abuse.   I realize their fear might motivate some to do so.   But it is plain STUPIDITY.

Sullinger is lucky that the events weren't caught on videotape, or things would've gone much worse for him.

Everyone makes mistakes but I was pretty unhappy with Sullinger when he did his deed awhile back.   These guys are lucky they are loaded. Their women stick with more for the money and also they can afford lawyers.  But I think Rice is done, no one, even me with this post has any sympathy for him.

rice is a cowardly scumbag

I am not condoning his actions and I think they were dastardly and vile but I do not think Rice is a coward.  That sounds good and guys always say it  but he did suit it up with behemoths every week while he played.  This is something that would make a lot of guys relieve themselves.  He is an abusive brute bully  but not a coward.  Guys like Obama and Biden and other posters here calling him a coward is a joke.  Most of you would not last one hit on the gridiron or subject their body to the abuse that Rice did.  I also do not think that  Terrorists are cowards but people say it there too.  It sounds great and I suppose it expected but utterly false, as how many of us would blow themselves up for a cause or volunteer in harm's way?

I'm not a big fan of namecalling or characteriazations, so I probably would choose a different way to describe Ray Rice's behavior than calling him a coward -- however, what would you call a man who is not afraid to get hurt on a football field or afraid to be violent, but is afraid to look at himself honestly and deal with his own anger, fears and inadequacies. 

[Eja117]

All this makes me wonder what happens if video surfaces of Michael Sam knocking out his boyfriend.

[Celtics4ever]

I probably would choose a different way to describe Ray Rice's behavior than calling him a coward -- however, what would you call a man who is not afraid to get hurt on a football field or afraid to be violent, but is afraid to look at himself honestly and deal with his own anger, fears and inadequacies.

Agree, it is very cliche to such a person a coward.

[Ogaju]

people who claim that the first video of an apparently unconscious Janay Rice should have put the NFL on notice of what happened in the Elevator is WRONG.

All the first video shows is an apparently unconscious woman, it does not show how he became unconscious. The second video shows him knocking her out with a punch.

By the way, Mayweather. does he still fight on Saturday considering the allegations of DV against him. Will anyone show up for the fight?

[D.o.s.]

All this makes me wonder what happens if video surfaces of Michael Sam knocking out his boyfriend.

Do you think the gender divide would make a difference?

Would it make a difference to you if the boyfriend was built like a linebacker or built like a waif?

[Eja117]

All this makes me wonder what happens if video surfaces of Michael Sam knocking out his boyfriend.

Do you think the gender divide would make a difference?

Would it make a difference to you if the boyfriend was built like a linebacker or built like a waif?

There would definitely be differences if this happened different (but similarly). Definitely.

[Clench123]

She put her hands on him and she was going for him again in the elevator.  He just hit harder I guess.  I don't condone a man putting hands on a female but that very mentality has allowed females leeway to do whatever they want and get away with it.  Statistics actually shows that domestic abuse on male by females is more common than the other way around.  I've seen men get beat on by females and all they did was tuck their balls in and walk away to avoid something like this.  It's ridiculous.  Don't hit if you don't want to get hit.  Like Chris Rock would say, I'm not saying he's right but I understand.

[LooseCannon]

Salon describes some of the arguments that some of those men's rights activist sickos on Reddit are using to defend Ray Rice.

[Beat LA]

What were we saying about the pats again?

"I think everyone that witnessed that video yesterday has to be outraged and really disgusted to see someone associated with us doing something like that us," Kraft said. "Anyone who is a real man doesn't hit a woman."

http://deadspin.com/the-trouble-with-floyd-mayweather-1605217498/1632578678/+kylenw

Like that us?  I speak English good, too.  Real good

It's not surprising to see Kraft associate with Mayweather.  This is the same guy who screwed Hartford out of getting an NFL team after promising to bring them tthere, so I for one absolutely loved it when Putin stole one of his championship rings lol   That was hilarious.  Way to go, Russia, way to go

[Beat LA]

Yeah you could be right. I don't spend very much time paying attention to Stephen A.

Also, in a shocking twist, it appears that the full cast and crew of the NFL office didn't seek out the video very hard, choosing the option of a plausible denial.

[Ogaju]

She put her hands on him and she was going for him again in the elevator.  He just hit harder I guess.  I don't condone a man putting hands on a female but that very mentality has allowed females leeway to do whatever they want and get away with it.  Statistics actually shows that domestic abuse on male by females is more common than the other way around.  I've seen men get beat on by females and all they did was tuck their balls in and walk away to avoid something like this.  It's ridiculous.  Don't hit if you don't want to get hit.  Like Chris Rock would say, I'm not saying he's right but I understand.

One ER doctor posted long ago (and if there are any ER doctors here please feel free to verify or  refute because I really don't know if this is true) that weekends in the ER can produce a number of female on male battery because the women usually tee off on their drunk male companions be it husband or girlfriend. Has anyone else heard or experienced this?

[Beat LA]

It's a bizarre and hilarious turn of events.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the NJ procedures are for pressing domestic violence charges? Can the DA office file them, or is a complaint from the victim required?

No, it's not.  There's nothing even remotely funny about any of this.  Period.

Sure there is. All other considerations aside, the way the NFL has "dealt" with this is quite hilarious.

I disagree, but to each his own.  The only thing that's hilarious has nothing to do with the actual situation, but the people who got their hands on the video - TMZ.  In what universe are they a reliable source?

[Moranis]

It's a bizarre and hilarious turn of events.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the NJ procedures are for pressing domestic violence charges? Can the DA office file them, or is a complaint from the victim required?

No, it's not.  There's nothing even remotely funny about any of this.  Period.

Sure there is. All other considerations aside, the way the NFL has "dealt" with this is quite hilarious.

I disagree, but to each his own.  The only thing that's hilarious has nothing to do with the actual situation, but the people who got their hands on the video - TMZ.  In what universe are they a reliable source?

TMZ is quite reliable.  They are run by a lawyer and double and often triple vet all sources before posting stories.

[Moranis]

The harsh truth is, there are no victims in this world. Rice's wife made hundreds of individual decisions to stay with him prior to that incident. The "victims stance" is endemic to our culture, as anyone can pick it up and ward off all responsibility for anything. Rice got the consequences of his actions, the rest is between him and his wife..

I feel less sorry for someone that sticks around after years of abuse.   I realize their fear might motivate some to do so.   But it is plain STUPIDITY.

Sullinger is lucky that the events weren't caught on videotape, or things would've gone much worse for him.

Everyone makes mistakes but I was pretty unhappy with Sullinger when he did his deed awhile back.   These guys are lucky they are loaded. Their women stick with more for the money and also they can afford lawyers.  But I think Rice is done, no one, even me with this post has any sympathy for him.

rice is a cowardly scumbag

I am not condoning his actions and I think they were dastardly and vile but I do not think Rice is a coward.  That sounds good and guys always say it  but he did suit it up with behemoths every week while he played.  This is something that would make a lot of guys relieve themselves.  He is an abusive brute bully  but not a coward.  Guys like Obama and Biden and other posters here calling him a coward is a joke.  Most of you would not last one hit on the gridiron or subject their body to the abuse that Rice did.  I also do not think that  Terrorists are cowards but people say it there too.  It sounds great and I suppose it expected but utterly false, as how many of us would blow themselves up for a cause or volunteer in harm's way?

I'm not a big fan of namecalling or characteriazations, so I probably would choose a different way to describe Ray Rice's behavior than calling him a coward -- however, what would you call a man who is not afraid to get hurt on a football field or afraid to be violent, but is afraid to look at himself honestly and deal with his own anger, fears and inadequacies.

How do you know that is what Ray Rice is or had done though?  Seems to me that him and his wife are working on things and worked through their problems and issues.

[D.o.s.]

There are 56 instances of domestic violence described below since Roger Goodell became NFL Commissioner (September 2006-present). Of those 56 instances, players were suspended for a combined 13 games (not including Rice's indefinite suspension, which cannot be quantified). Out of 56 instances, only 10 players were released by their team.

http://sidespin.kinja.com/roger-goodell-is-a-domestic-violence-enabler-who-must-b-1632385955