It's Been A Lame Offseason.

[brandonmm94]

I think the c's are ready to surprise some of you. I don't think they will be great, but they won't be as bad as most of you seem to think

[Rondo9]

It's been a lame off-season for sure. I do like the draft results but like some feel, it's hard to get excited for Smart when Rondo is still here. Add in that Rondo market should be at it's peak given so many teams were in buy/trade mode this off-season. Kind of disappointed Rondo is still here value wise, not the player.

 AB was an overpay for a RFA but the market kind of forced it or at least DA will say it did. DA should have got him at 6 or 7 million. Most could see 6 million as reasonable.

Turner I can't get excited about because even if he is a good gamble C's didn't lock him up cheap for 4 years. Turner will likely also be overpaid or leave after this short deal. Also why the need for AB, Thornton, Turner wth happens with Young now? Guy will probably not get any PT and regress a little.

The TPE went horrible it was meant to be a way to absorb a vet who would help C's win or absorb a bad player in the process of getting a star. Cavs used C's TPE to get the star and to win! Oh but we got a big white guy (raja, knight, veal, Stiesma, Hump, and the rest all sucked) and the "top 2nd round pick" so I'm supposed to be pumped?

This off-season outside of the draft has been very lame and I'm not even one of the "we need a rim protector CBs" lol.

Yes, and how could I forget that??

The Celts being a huge contributing factor to Cavs having the cap space to get Lebron by agreeing to that 3 way with Brooklyn.

Is Ainge best friends with Dan Gilbert or something?

You forgot it because it's really a non-factor. If the Celtics didn't do it, someone else would have (and there were plenty of teams in position to benefit from this). So with something that's already a forgone conclusion with or without us, we got a lot of value out of it.

I don't disagree some one would have benefited but C's didn't get much for the the TPE which everyone had decent hopes for. Also we helped Brooklyn.  Cs have their first why help them it just lowered the picks value.

Danny got value out of it. He can't just reject a deal because of petty reasons and what were you expecting from the TPE? Kevin Durant?

[aingeforthree]

Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way.

To make it worse, it's looking like this is our roster for opening night.

Funny how we went from speculating about a big 3 of Rondo/Love/Melo to a starting lineup of Rondo/Bradley/Green or Turner/Sullinger/Zeller

Sure has been great for the Cavs though, who were basically gift wrapped everything this offseason on a silver platter.

I am still waiting on a Kevin Durant for Dion Waiters trade, any minute

It's been a great offseason.  Helluva draft, we got Zeller and a first practically for free, and didn't give out any crazy contracts to guys like Hayward who can't put you over the top.

Drafted well, got younger with Zeller and Turner, Olynyk's obviously been working on his game, and we landed yet another first rounder.  We're setting up the cap situation perfectly for the future.

Keyword being 'future'.  Ainge is building this thing the correct way.  He knows what he's doing.  Sit back, relax, and let it unfold.

[D.o.s.]

It's been a lame off-season for sure. I do like the draft results but like some feel, it's hard to get excited for Smart when Rondo is still here. Add in that Rondo market should be at it's peak given so many teams were in buy/trade mode this off-season. Kind of disappointed Rondo is still here value wise, not the player.

 AB was an overpay for a RFA but the market kind of forced it or at least DA will say it did. DA should have got him at 6 or 7 million. Most could see 6 million as reasonable.

Turner I can't get excited about because even if he is a good gamble C's didn't lock him up cheap for 4 years. Turner will likely also be overpaid or leave after this short deal. Also why the need for AB, Thornton, Turner wth happens with Young now? Guy will probably not get any PT and regress a little.

The TPE went horrible it was meant to be a way to absorb a vet who would help C's win or absorb a bad player in the process of getting a star. Cavs used C's TPE to get the star and to win! Oh but we got a big white guy (raja, knight, veal, Stiesma, Hump, and the rest all sucked) and the "top 2nd round pick" so I'm supposed to be pumped?

This off-season outside of the draft has been very lame and I'm not even one of the "we need a rim protector CBs" lol.

Yes, and how could I forget that??

The Celts being a huge contributing factor to Cavs having the cap space to get Lebron by agreeing to that 3 way with Brooklyn.

Is Ainge best friends with Dan Gilbert or something?

You forgot it because it's really a non-factor. If the Celtics didn't do it, someone else would have (and there were plenty of teams in position to benefit from this). So with something that's already a forgone conclusion with or without us, we got a lot of value out of it.

I don't disagree some one would have benefited but C's didn't get much for the the TPE which everyone had decent hopes for. Also we helped Brooklyn.  Cs have their first why help them it just lowered the picks value.

Danny got value out of it. He can't just reject a deal because of petty reasons and what were you expecting from the TPE? Kevin Durant?

No one would've been happy with only Kevin Durant for the TPE, come on.

[freshinthehouse]

As has been mentioned by other posters in this thread, any one that was speculating about a Rondo/Love/Melo team needs to seriously get in touch with reality.

I'll also make a gentleman's bet of $50 that the C's are going to make at least one of Rondo/Green/Bass will be traded before opening night.  The off-season isn't over yet.

[vinnie]

Kelly Olynyk will not be a 20-point per game scorer -- ever. End of discussion.

[freshinthehouse]

Kelly Olynyk will not be a 20-point per game scorer -- ever. End of discussion.

Agreed.  At least not on a good team.  I think his ceiling would be first big off the bench on a playoff team. 

[freshinthehouse]

I even forgot they helped Brooklyn get better which they have Brooklyn's 1st.... crap!

Do you honestly think the addition of Jarrett Jack is really going to make the Nets that much better in 2016?

[BudweiserCeltic]

It's been a lame off-season for sure. I do like the draft results but like some feel, it's hard to get excited for Smart when Rondo is still here. Add in that Rondo market should be at it's peak given so many teams were in buy/trade mode this off-season. Kind of disappointed Rondo is still here value wise, not the player.

 AB was an overpay for a RFA but the market kind of forced it or at least DA will say it did. DA should have got him at 6 or 7 million. Most could see 6 million as reasonable.

Turner I can't get excited about because even if he is a good gamble C's didn't lock him up cheap for 4 years. Turner will likely also be overpaid or leave after this short deal. Also why the need for AB, Thornton, Turner wth happens with Young now? Guy will probably not get any PT and regress a little.

The TPE went horrible it was meant to be a way to absorb a vet who would help C's win or absorb a bad player in the process of getting a star. Cavs used C's TPE to get the star and to win! Oh but we got a big white guy (raja, knight, veal, Stiesma, Hump, and the rest all sucked) and the "top 2nd round pick" so I'm supposed to be pumped?

This off-season outside of the draft has been very lame and I'm not even one of the "we need a rim protector CBs" lol.

Yes, and how could I forget that??

The Celts being a huge contributing factor to Cavs having the cap space to get Lebron by agreeing to that 3 way with Brooklyn.

Is Ainge best friends with Dan Gilbert or something?

You forgot it because it's really a non-factor. If the Celtics didn't do it, someone else would have (and there were plenty of teams in position to benefit from this). So with something that's already a forgone conclusion with or without us, we got a lot of value out of it.

I don't disagree some one would have benefited but C's didn't get much for the the TPE which everyone had decent hopes for. Also we helped Brooklyn.  Cs have their first why help them it just lowered the picks value.

False expectations, we got a lot of value for that TPE. Most TPE's actually expire without getting any value for it.

So that's more of your problem, than actually evaluating how much value we got for the TPE.

[Rondo9]

Kelly Olynyk will not be a 20-point per game scorer -- ever. End of discussion.

And how do you know that?

[Mr October]

It was a quiet off season, and one of best off seasons i can think of in a long time.

1. Draft Marcus smart
2. Draft James young

Use a salary exception to land:

3. Another first round pick
4. Tyler Zeller at a low cost look
5. Acquired Thornton a scorer and shooter for a 1 year look deal

6. Resigned Avery Bradley at market value

7. Signed Evan Turner for a low cost, high upside look.

This is probably the second or third best offseason for the Celtics in the last 30 years.

Number 1: arrival of KG and Ray Allen
Number 2: drafting of Pierce
Number 4: drafting of Rondo

[D.o.s.]

As has been mentioned by other posters in this thread, any one that was speculating about a Rondo/Love/Melo team needs to seriously get in touch with reality.

I'll also make a gentleman's bet of $50 that the C's are going to make at least one of Rondo/Green/Bass will be traded before opening night.  The off-season isn't over yet.

I will take that bet, but only under the condition that you change it to the significantly arduous process of 50 TP's. An ATM visit or a paypal email takes 5-10 minutes. 50 TP's takes, at a minimum, 50 hours.

[slamtheking]

It's been a lame off-season for sure. I do like the draft results but like some feel, it's hard to get excited for Smart when Rondo is still here. Add in that Rondo market should be at it's peak given so many teams were in buy/trade mode this off-season. Kind of disappointed Rondo is still here value wise, not the player.

 AB was an overpay for a RFA but the market kind of forced it or at least DA will say it did. DA should have got him at 6 or 7 million. Most could see 6 million as reasonable.

Turner I can't get excited about because even if he is a good gamble C's didn't lock him up cheap for 4 years. Turner will likely also be overpaid or leave after this short deal. Also why the need for AB, Thornton, Turner wth happens with Young now? Guy will probably not get any PT and regress a little.

The TPE went horrible it was meant to be a way to absorb a vet who would help C's win or absorb a bad player in the process of getting a star. Cavs used C's TPE to get the star and to win! Oh but we got a big white guy (raja, knight, veal, Stiesma, Hump, and the rest all sucked) and the "top 2nd round pick" so I'm supposed to be pumped?

This off-season outside of the draft has been very lame and I'm not even one of the "we need a rim protector CBs" lol.

Yes, and how could I forget that??

The Celts being a huge contributing factor to Cavs having the cap space to get Lebron by agreeing to that 3 way with Brooklyn.

Is Ainge best friends with Dan Gilbert or something?

You forgot it because it's really a non-factor. If the Celtics didn't do it, someone else would have (and there were plenty of teams in position to benefit from this). So with something that's already a forgone conclusion with or without us, we got a lot of value out of it.

I don't disagree some one would have benefited but C's didn't get much for the the TPE which everyone had decent hopes for. Also we helped Brooklyn.  Cs have their first why help them it just lowered the picks value.

Danny got value out of it. He can't just reject a deal because of petty reasons and what were you expecting from the TPE? Kevin Durant?

No one would've been happy with only Kevin Durant for the TPE, come on.

laughed hard enough to almost choke on my own spit.  TP  for the near-death experience

[LooseCannon]

Yes weak off season, but I rather stink for another year than be a .500 team with no flexibility.

Would you rather stink for another year or be a .500 team with a lot of flexibility?  I'd prefer to be the latter and I hope the Celtics can do that.

[LooseCannon]

I agree with everyone who mentioned the lottery being the main culprit. The reason it's been "lame" is that people wanted our first pick to either result in a star through the draft or through a trade. By ending up with the sixth pick, the Celtics could not entice Saunders on a Love trade and they also missed out on all the higher-potential prospects.

The biggest addition this offseason in Smart also seems underwhelming because he plays the same position as our biggest star. That just creates a lot of confusion and uncertainty as to the direction the franchise is going in.

Besides the fact that we didn't really obtain a star, the search for a rim protector is still ongoing. They really don't have anybody at this point so either they draft someone next year who will be ready sometime in 2018-2020 or they use their assets to acquire somebody.

Everybody grab a seat because rebuilding is going to take awhile... =(

And that's another frusturating part about this offseason.

I don't really know what direction this team is going in and I am not sure even Danny Ainge knows

Are we gearing up to be major players as soon as 2015 or are we in for a long, miserable rebuild?

Don't get me wrong, I HATE what Philly is doing, but at least you know where they stand.

I'm probably the opposite.  I like maintaining flexibility.  The Philly gambit is something that should be reserved for when you have no other options.  The Celtics still have plenty of options.

One thing I feel is that Ainge's Plan A involves Rondo/Bradley as the starting backcourt for the next 3-4 years.  This is subject to change if Rondo seems to have been diminished significantly after his injury or if Rondo can be moved for a better player to build around, but I think he sees them as a synergistic duo who are greater than the sum of their parts.