What? You don't think Curry is the team's primary ballhandler/ offense initiator? He had 8.5 apg, doubling up Iggy's second most of 4.2 He also averaged 24 ppg, which was 6 more than Thompson's 18 ppg.
His assists to turnover ratio won't be as strong as Rondo's because he actually has the ability to shoot and score the ball, so he looks for his shot much more than Rondo. However, when you count his 8.5 apg and 24 ppg that's 41 points that he's accounting for. Rondo's best season in that regard he accounted for 35.9.
1. Jarrett Jack was GSW's primary ballhandler and the guy who initiated the offense last season. Larry Bird may have scored the points but anyone who watched the Celtics play knew that Dennis Johnson was the guy running the offense. Curry doesn't really do that, yet still turns the ball over a lot.
2. I don't think you understand the assist-to-turnover concept.
Mike
1. This past season Curry was their primary ballhandler as he was last year. Do they put him off the ball? Sure. They run him off picks to free him up from ballhandling duties. Again, being the sole ballhandler and the primary one are two totally different things.
2. I understand the stat, but I'm explaining how Curry is hurt in that department because he can actually shoot the ball. If Curry didn't play to his shooting strength, and instead passed the ball more often, his assists would increase, but his game/team production will suffer as a result. So he gets penalized in this stat because he looks for his shot more.
Edit: DJ usually brought the ball down the court (Ainge sometimes did too), but make no mistake that Bird was the one that was facilitating and running that offense.
This makes no sense at all.
Since when does shooting more cause a player to generate more turnovers? Is a player shooting the ball in to the opponents hands? Unless the offensive player is frequently running head first in to the defense and losing the ball (which is a problem in itself) then talking more shots should not push your.assist/To ratio upwards.
Usually pass first players have higher turnover numbers because it's easier to throw a bad pass (or have a pass deflected. / teammate fumble it) then it is to throw a 3pt shot directly to an opponent.
Chris Paul is the rare exception. Hes a pass first PG who has always had an elite assist/to ratio
You're missing the point. What I'm saying is that when a player handles the ball a lot (see Westbrook, Curry, Irving) they will generate a lot of turnovers. It goes with the territory. However, in regards to assist to turnover ratio, Curry would have a better ratio if he passed the ball more, subsequently accumulating more assists, since his great shooting ability has no relevancy with that specific stat.
What you're missing is that the more players pass the ball the more turnovers they have, and that Curry, even though he doesn't pass the ball a ton, makes almost 2/3 of his turnovers from bad passes. If you break the turnovers up between passing and non-passing turnovers it's easier to compare Rondo to Curry.
If you look at non-passing turnovers, Rondo's better. He commits slightly fewer turnovers per minute played. But you also have to consider that Rondo handles the ball much more than Curry does. Rondo has the ball about 23% of the time he's on the court and Curry has the ball about 18% of the time he's on the court. If you just consider how often they commit non-passing turnovers per minute handling the ball Curry commits them about 30% more frequently than Rondo.
If you look at passing turnovers the difference is worse.If you get (from nba.com data) the total number of passes Curry made this year and divide it by the total number of passing turnovers he made about 1 turnover on every 21 passes.. Rondo committed 1 turnover for every 34 or so passes he made. That's Rondo coming back from a major injury in mid-season with a bunch of new teammates that aren't used to his passes. The difference would be wider otherwise.
The inescapable conclusion is that the only reason Curry doesn't turn the ball over more often than Rondo is that he doesn't handle the ball or pass the ball as often as Rondo.
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