I get your point. But he wants to get paid like he is a franchise calibre player when he is not. Plus Rondo wanting to get paid, you are not going to have enough money to build a successful team. You see a team like the spurs. They have guys left and right willing to take less money to help to create a winning environment. It's sacrifice inside and outside of the court. Love will not make the sacrifice nor does he give it an all out effort on the defensive end. That's why he is not a winner so far
Even as much as i dislike Melo, he has publicly stated he is willing to take less money to start winning again. I can respect that.
Right now fans want to go into this trade blind. Lets give up assets that could turn to bite us back in the azz, lets not worry about contracts until the time comes (where Love and Rondo will want max or might walk). So basically there is no assurance these guys will be here after this upcoming season and the Celts org might be seriously screwed then. Why not take the safer approach and see how much KO, Sullinger have come along , see how the draft picks turn out (even if we get to see what they can do for half a year) and then make a trade(s) at the deadline? Love is not the only decent player that will be available between now and the end of the 2015 FA period.
Players take less with the Spurs because the Spurs win. No one is EVER taking less money to play for a team that won 25 games the season before. Also, neither LeBron not Wade nor Melo nor Bosh were willing to give up money when they were Love's age. And you cannot find a better example of "fantasy GM dementia" than refusing to get a 20-10 guy who is 25 years old because it might stop you from doing some unknown thing at some undetermined point in the future.
Mike
Then why isn't every team lined up for Love? why doesn't the cavs give them the 1st. Why is GSW reluctant to give up Klay Thompson or the Wizards reluctant to give up Beal?
you don't give up the future especially picks from a strong draft (would be top 3 picks in any other draft) for a rental (considered for now) and a guy who has not made the playoffs yet (his fault or not).
If Love can't help to make the playoffs regardless of what happens (Green is inconsistent, Rondo is not quite the same), he is going to get killed by the media and fans. He is definitely not going to stay and try a new start somewhere else. He is going to be fine, get paid his money etc. But we will be screwed.
For me if we had a Rondo and Paul Pierce, healthy and capable then yeah , get Love. At worse you are making the playoffs and there is a decent chance you get past the 1st round. But having just Rondo (post injury) and Love doesn't have as much as impact people think. Next go grab asik, who is a defensive specialist (not elite), give up another 1st for another guy that could walk after this season. Bottom line for me is, we need to be patient. Or else we can become like the Lakers/dhoward and really become screwed. You need to have a base/foundation in place first, then trade the pieces to propel your team into another level. The 2007 team design is a rare situation that succeeded (plus guys like Al Jefferson already showed us what he can do in three seasons and the 5th pick was considered to be nothing amazin). What the cHeaters did only works because they got two of the best basketball players teaming up.
The Celtics do this trade, we end up like the Rockets. Promising to go somewhere but eventually going nowhere because you got a few B class talent that get paid like they are A class and the team can't afford to obtain other help
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