So Wyc Grousbeck and Danny Ainge pretty much confirmed we're getting Kevin Love

[D.o.s.]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

[McHales Pits]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

Seriously?

[McHales Pits]

Top-5 Scoring
Top-5 Rebounding
2nd in APG among big men (behind Noah who the offense went through all season with no Rose)
3rd in PER
#1 in Double-Doubles (65 in 77 games)
T-3rd in Triple-Doubles (3)
Only player in the league to average 24-12-4

That isn't Top-15?

[Jailan34]

Top-5 Scoring
Top-5 Rebounding
2nd in APG among big men (behind Noah who the offense went through all season with no Rose)
3rd in PER
#1 in Double-Doubles (65 in 77 games)
T-3rd in Triple-Doubles (3)
Only player in the league to average 24-12-4

That isn't Top-15?

Celticsblog, only site where RR is a top 3 point guard still and Love isn't even a top 15 player.

[celticslove]

Top-5 Scoring
Top-5 Rebounding
2nd in APG among big men (behind Noah who the offense went through all season with no Rose)
3rd in PER
#1 in Double-Doubles (65 in 77 games)
T-3rd in Triple-Doubles (3)
Only player in the league to average 24-12-4

That isn't Top-15?

Celticsblog, only site where RR is a top 3 point guard still and Love isn't even a top 15 player.

definitely top 3
1. Rondo
2. Bayless
3. Pressey

[D.o.s.]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

Seriously?

Maybe a little hyperbolic. Kevin Love is the empty calories of the NBA. He's a tremendous outlet passer, has great range(he's basically the uber-stretch 4), takes full advantage of his teammates inability to rebound in the slightest, has exactly zero leadership skills, refuses to take accountability for anything to do with losing, and is the furthest thing from a go-to scorer as soon as it gets competitive (as evidenced by their utterly abysmal record at closing games out). That's pretty much all he brings to the table.

I firmly believe that Kevin Love couldn't be the best player on a championship contender, and that he's a much closer comparison to someone like Chris Bosh than prime Kevin Garnett.

[moiso]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

Seriously?

Maybe a little hyperbolic. Kevin Love is the empty calories of the NBA. He's a tremendous outlet passer, has great range(he's basically the uber-stretch 4), takes full advantage of his teammates inability to rebound in the slightest, has exactly zero leadership skills, refuses to take accountability for anything to do with losing, and is the furthest thing from a go-to scorer as soon as it gets competitive (as evidenced by their utterly abysmal record at closing games out). That's pretty much all he brings to the table.

I firmly believe that Kevin Love couldn't be the best player on a championship contender, and that he's a much closer comparison to someone like Chris Bosh than prime Kevin Garnett.

The fact that Rubio doesn't have to be guarded didn't help them close out games either.  I recall Love hitting a couple last second game winners.

[McHales Pits]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

Seriously?

Maybe a little hyperbolic. Kevin Love is the empty calories of the NBA. He's a tremendous outlet passer, has great range(he's basically the uber-stretch 4), takes full advantage of his teammates inability to rebound in the slightest, has exactly zero leadership skills, refuses to take accountability for anything to do with losing, and is the furthest thing from a go-to scorer as soon as it gets competitive (as evidenced by their utterly abysmal record at closing games out). That's pretty much all he brings to the table.

I firmly believe that Kevin Love couldn't be the best player on a championship contender, and that he's a much closer comparison to someone like Chris Bosh than prime Kevin Garnett.

Green = Agree
Red = Disagree
Blue = Indifferent

1) Yes - he is a prototype stretch-4.
2) Yeah he has a dominant rebounding rate on his team, but is it possible that his dominant rebounding/outlet passing ability allow his teammates to leak out knowing that he can clean the glass and find them down the court? I would think so. He also plays with Pekovic (10 RPG) and Dieng (who came on strong in April).
3) This is purely subjective. No one likes losing.
4) I think you're definition of a go-to scorer is a wing player that can create his own shot. No - love isn't that and he can't create his own shot like Durant can, but he is a pretty prolific scorer in his own right.
5) Maybe true - but more talent is what the Celtics need. If we flounder away another season, I can assure you Rondo (our next most talented player) will be thinking twice about his desire to stay here.
6) No doubt Love and Garnett are different players.

[Kane3387]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

That's crazy. Top ten easily and arguably top five. Only Lebron and KD are for sure better then Love.

[D.o.s.]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

Seriously?

Maybe a little hyperbolic. Kevin Love is the empty calories of the NBA. He's a tremendous outlet passer, has great range(he's basically the uber-stretch 4), takes full advantage of his teammates inability to rebound in the slightest, has exactly zero leadership skills, refuses to take accountability for anything to do with losing, and is the furthest thing from a go-to scorer as soon as it gets competitive (as evidenced by their utterly abysmal record at closing games out). That's pretty much all he brings to the table.

I firmly believe that Kevin Love couldn't be the best player on a championship contender, and that he's a much closer comparison to someone like Chris Bosh than prime Kevin Garnett.

The fact that Rubio doesn't have to be guarded didn't help them close out games either.  I recall Love hitting a couple last second game winners.

Nice try, but odds are if the game was close, Rubio was on the bench.

[D.o.s.]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

Seriously?

Maybe a little hyperbolic. Kevin Love is the empty calories of the NBA. He's a tremendous outlet passer, has great range(he's basically the uber-stretch 4), takes full advantage of his teammates inability to rebound in the slightest, has exactly zero leadership skills, refuses to take accountability for anything to do with losing, and is the furthest thing from a go-to scorer as soon as it gets competitive (as evidenced by their utterly abysmal record at closing games out). That's pretty much all he brings to the table.

I firmly believe that Kevin Love couldn't be the best player on a championship contender, and that he's a much closer comparison to someone like Chris Bosh than prime Kevin Garnett.

Green = Agree
Red = Disagree
Blue = Indifferent

1) Yes - he is a prototype stretch-4.
2) Yeah he has a dominant rebounding rate on his team, but is it possible that his dominant rebounding/outlet passing ability allow his teammates to leak out knowing that he can clean the glass and find them down the court? I would think so. He also plays with Pekovic (10 RPG) and Dieng (who came on strong in April).
3) This is purely subjective. No one likes losing.
4) I think you're definition of a go-to scorer is a wing player that can create his own shot. No - love isn't that and he can't create his own shot like Durant can, but he is a pretty prolific scorer in his own right.
5) Maybe true - but more talent is what the Celtics need. If we flounder away another season, I can assure you Rondo (our next most talented player) will be thinking twice about his desire to stay here.
6) No doubt Love and Garnett are different players.

I'd take a center who can create his own shot, too.

Anyway, aside from my general distaste for Kevin Love, I have no real objections to seeing him on the Celtics. We need better players, that's inarguable. I do think that a lot of the Love trades I see on here are giving up far too many assets, though.

[badshar]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

That's crazy. Top ten easily and arguably top five. Only Lebron and KD are for sure better then Love.

Alright, no. For as much as he could possibly improve this team, he will still be the Ray Allen of the potential championship team big 3. He'll be important, but far from the best of the big 3.

That's why I have been hoping that we get Carmelo, so we can get a Rondo-Carmelo-Love Big 3. At that point, Asik and a shooting guard who is automatic from most locations on the court will be a solid lineup heading into the playoffs (assuming we remain healthy).

[D.o.s.]

Top fifteen is probably a stretch, unless you're limiting it to just bigs.

That's crazy. Top ten easily and arguably top five. Only Lebron and KD are for sure better then Love.

Yeah, I'm not buying this one.

[McHales Pits]

I'd take a center who can create his own shot, too.

How many of these are in the NBA today?

[merkins]

I think Chicago should/will offer the farm for him.  The two mid round picks this year, Gibson, whoever else, etc.  Defense is not a problem for that team and they get Rose back.  Add Love and Rose to Chicagos roster, subtract Boozer and they jump the Pacers to challenge the Heat next year. 

Im dont think he has nearly the value to the C's, one of the worst teams in the league (surely to lose Sullinger in any deal as well).