So Wyc Grousbeck and Danny Ainge pretty much confirmed we're getting Kevin Love

[mef730]

There will be no Love in Boston!!!  Because "The Maestro", Danny Ainge is about to orchestrate yet another  blockbuster deal.
Before the Cavs can even let the words "Joel Embiid" roll off their lips, the Celtics will swoop in and give Cleveland their 2 first round picks plus Jeff Green,  Joel Anthony, Chris Babb and Kieth Bogens for the rights to Embiid.  the Cavs will have been given an offer they can't refuse and at about the same time Rondo will realize there is Christmas in June.
But wait, there's more........The C'S will load up in free agency thanks to those 5 picks in 2015. this team will then be loaded and ready to avenge last year's embarrassment.

Knowing this board you will all chime in as to why this can't happen, and then it will!!!

Intriguing idea - but is Jeff Green, (Julius Randle or some other pick at 6), and (PJ Hairston or some other pick at 17) worth 4 cost-controlled years and 5 RFA rights' years of a player who has the potential to be one of the most dominant big men in the game?

I guess you could make the case for Randle developing into a dominant player, as well, but Embiid looks darn good. I would be on board if DA traded up for him or Parker. Exum and Wiggins I would be indifferent on.

I just don't see Ainge putting the fans and especially his players through another season like the last one considering the team played their hearts out when he has the ability to make the C's a contender, RIGHT NOW!!!

I would much rather go through another season like the last one than overpay for someone like Love.

I don't think there's any chance that your original deal for Embiid happens.  None.  Sorry, but 6+17, an overpaid SF and a few contract fillers have no shot at bringing in a #1 pick who has the potential to dominate their position for years, whether it's Wiggins or Embiid.  And if I'm wrong, I will happily take you to the drinking establishment of your choice and buy you drinks until you fall off the chair.

Ainge is a long-term thinker.  Sure, he'd love to contend next year, but he'd much rather put the team on solid footing for the next decade.  With all of our draft picks through 2018, three of which belong to the Nets (not including this year's) who are virtually guaranteed to suck for the next five years, we will likely have lottery picks coming to us in 2016, 17 and 18.

My guess is that Ainge is thinking 2020, not 2015.  We need one more big player (I'm thinking Asik.) and then I agree with you; given all the draft picks we have coming up, we will look awfully good to free agents in the summer of 2015, regardless of our poor history in that department.

Mike

[DesertDweller]

There will be no Love in Boston!!!  Because "The Maestro", Danny Ainge is about to orchestrate yet another  blockbuster deal.
Before the Cavs can even let the words "Joel Embiid" roll off their lips, the Celtics will swoop in and give Cleveland their 2 first round picks plus Jeff Green,  Joel Anthony, Chris Babb and Kieth Bogens for the rights to Embiid.  the Cavs will have been given an offer they can't refuse and at about the same time Rondo will realize there is Christmas in June.
But wait, there's more........The C'S will load up in free agency thanks to those 5 picks in 2015. this team will then be loaded and ready to avenge last year's embarrassment.

Knowing this board you will all chime in as to why this can't happen, and then it will!!!

Intriguing idea - but is Jeff Green, (Julius Randle or some other pick at 6), and (PJ Hairston or some other pick at 17) worth 4 cost-controlled years and 5 RFA rights' years of a player who has the potential to be one of the most dominant big men in the game?

I guess you could make the case for Randle developing into a dominant player, as well, but Embiid looks darn good. I would be on board if DA traded up for him or Parker. Exum and Wiggins I would be indifferent on.

I just don't see Ainge putting the fans and especially his players through another season like the last one considering the team played their hearts out when he has the ability to make the C's a contender, RIGHT NOW!!!

I would much rather go through another season like the last one than overpay for someone like Love.

I don't think there's any chance that your original deal for Embiid happens.  None.  Sorry, but 6+17, an overpaid SF and a few contract fillers have no shot at bringing in a #1 pick who has the potential to dominate their position for years, whether it's Wiggins or Embiid.  And if I'm wrong, I will happily take you to the drinking establishment of your choice and buy you drinks until you fall off the chair.

Ainge is a long-term thinker.  Sure, he'd love to contend next year, but he'd much rather put the team on solid footing for the next decade.  With all of our draft picks through 2018, three of which belong to the Nets (not including this year's) who are virtually guaranteed to suck for the next five years, we will likely have lottery picks coming to us in 2016, 17 and 18.

My guess is that Ainge is thinking 2020, not 2015.  We need one more big player (I'm thinking Asik.) and then I agree with you; given all the draft picks we have coming up, we will look awfully good to free agents in the summer of 2015, regardless of our poor history in that department.

Mike

I'm a little confused Mike. what do you mean by "Ainge is thinking 2020, not 2015" if you're saying what I think you are, Ainge would be drummed out of the league long before that. we, currently have enough picks and other moves that could be made to get two major players into this organization and the fans know that,  and they would not be real happy to see Ainge do anymore stockpiling while the C's tank another year!!!

[cman88]

I think some people here are too hung up on the draft as a way to rebuild. I dont think danny is though...do you want to go through another year like this one? being a horrible team only to sit empty handed on lottery night as you lose out on yet another #1 pick.

I think seeing the C's lose out on Duncan, Durant and now the Parker/wiggins/embiid draft danny knows now to throw all your success to chance

[GreenWarrior]

I think some people here are too hung up on the draft as a way to rebuild. I dont think danny is though...do you want to go through another year like this one? being a horrible team only to sit empty handed on lottery night as you lose out on yet another #1 pick.

I think seeing the C's lose out on Duncan, Durant and now the Parker/wiggins/embiid draft danny knows now to throw all your success to chance

I think Danny realized this in '07. acquire assets is the name of the game.

the only time its really worth it to draft someone is if there is a Durant/Lebron available that yr. otherwise let someone else draft a player that has to grow into his potential...then trade for him.

[Casperian]

I think some people here are too hung up on the draft as a way to rebuild. I dont think danny is though...do you want to go through another year like this one? being a horrible team only to sit empty handed on lottery night as you lose out on yet another #1 pick.

I think seeing the C's lose out on Duncan, Durant and now the Parker/wiggins/embiid draft danny knows now to throw all your success to chance

I think Danny realized this in '07. acquire assets is the name of the game.

the only time its really worth it to draft someone is if there is a Durant/Lebron available that yr. otherwise let someone else draft a player that has to grow into his potential...then trade for him.

Then again, 3 of the 4 teams in the conference finals and 5 of the 8 teams in the second round were built through the draft.

I hope we stay away from that overrated bum. There's simply no foundation in place, yet.

This just reeks of a pure marketing move.

1) trade for a...local...hero...whatever..., keep one of the top 10 jersey sellers happy

2) make the second round

3) profit

[GreenWarrior]

I think some people here are too hung up on the draft as a way to rebuild. I dont think danny is though...do you want to go through another year like this one? being a horrible team only to sit empty handed on lottery night as you lose out on yet another #1 pick.

I think seeing the C's lose out on Duncan, Durant and now the Parker/wiggins/embiid draft danny knows now to throw all your success to chance

I think Danny realized this in '07. acquire assets is the name of the game.

the only time its really worth it to draft someone is if there is a Durant/Lebron available that yr. otherwise let someone else draft a player that has to grow into his potential...then trade for him.

Then again, 3 of the 4 teams in the conference finals and 5 of the 8 teams in the second round were built through the draft.

I hope we stay away from that overrated bum. There's simply no foundation in place, yet.

This just reeks of a pure marketing move.

1) trade for a...local...hero...whatever..., keep one of the top 10 jersey sellers happy

2) make the second round

3) profit

uhhh Indy has been building that team for 15 yr's. if Paul George doesn't become more than he was projected to be they're more than likely a borderline 8th seed...like us. the thunder and spurs - opportunistic luck & being in the right place at the right time.

why wait 15 to 20 yrs. to build a team that can contend when you can do it in 2 - 3 yrs.? 

[hpantazo]

I think some people here are too hung up on the draft as a way to rebuild. I dont think danny is though...do you want to go through another year like this one? being a horrible team only to sit empty handed on lottery night as you lose out on yet another #1 pick.

I think seeing the C's lose out on Duncan, Durant and now the Parker/wiggins/embiid draft danny knows now to throw all your success to chance

I think Danny realized this in '07. acquire assets is the name of the game.

the only time its really worth it to draft someone is if there is a Durant/Lebron available that yr. otherwise let someone else draft a player that has to grow into his potential...then trade for him.

Then again, 3 of the 4 teams in the conference finals and 5 of the 8 teams in the second round were built through the draft.

I hope we stay away from that overrated bum. There's simply no foundation in place, yet.

This just reeks of a pure marketing move.

1) trade for a...local...hero...whatever..., keep one of the top 10 jersey sellers happy

2) make the second round

3) profit

The soon to be 3 time defending champs, and the team that has won the east for 4 straight years, was not built through the draft. Our beloved KG-Pierce-Ray team was not built through the draft. Who cares how the Thunder and Pacers were built if they can't get to the finals and win the [dang] title?

The Spurs are still living off their luck of landing Duncan. We didn't win the lottery so that's not happening for us.

Ainge is doing the right thing if he gets Love. We are not getting a franchise cornerstone at #6 in this draft, and Sully and KO are not cornerstones either.

[D.o.s.]

We're basically going to be a poor man's Houston

[moiso]

We're basically going to be a poor man's Houston

Which is a lot better than being a rich man's Milwaukee.

[LilRip]

I think some people here are too hung up on the draft as a way to rebuild. I dont think danny is though...do you want to go through another year like this one? being a horrible team only to sit empty handed on lottery night as you lose out on yet another #1 pick.

I think seeing the C's lose out on Duncan, Durant and now the Parker/wiggins/embiid draft danny knows now to throw all your success to chance

I think Danny realized this in '07. acquire assets is the name of the game.

the only time its really worth it to draft someone is if there is a Durant/Lebron available that yr. otherwise let someone else draft a player that has to grow into his potential...then trade for him.

Then again, 3 of the 4 teams in the conference finals and 5 of the 8 teams in the second round were built through the draft.

I hope we stay away from that overrated bum. There's simply no foundation in place, yet.

This just reeks of a pure marketing move.

1) trade for a...local...hero...whatever..., keep one of the top 10 jersey sellers happy

2) make the second round

3) profit

This. Super this. While the draft undeniably has an element of luck (as do trades and free agent signings, for that matter) generally, there are good players in the lottery. Drafting players doesn't doom a franchise to 15-20 years of mediocrity.

Acquiring KLove will be a step towards relevance, but people pointing to teams like the Heat and the Celtics are kidding themselves if they think that trading for KLove will bring anything close to that level of success, or that we'd be contenders. For starters, i think we should review those teams.

1. The Heat have possibly the best player in the league (top 2 at worst). Put Lebron on that Pacer team and i'm sure they beat the troika of George/Wade/Bosh. Put Lebron in Brooklyn, and i think they'd beat a team of JJ/Wade/Bosh. Heck, Lebron in his Cleveland days back in 07-08 pushed our team to the brink and he's only gotten so much better since then.

2. The C's pulled off an unprecedented move, and were basically the only team in the league with 3 legit all-stars at the time. Not to mention that KG and Pierce (07-08 versions) were much better than any player we have on the roster right now (KLove and healthy Rondo included). The same could arguably be said for Ray Allen as well.

[playdream]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

[Celtics39]

One of my theories that's been gaining steam in my brain the past few weeks whilst these Love rumors are floating about and as I've been reading more and more people saying they really don't want Love that much is that I don't think people realize how good this guy is.

Not sure if you guys do the whole League Pass thing (I do), and I watch a lot of basketball. Kevin Love is arguably the 3rd or 4th best offensive player in the game behind/ahead/tied with James Harden. Do people realize that Kevin Love is UNGUARDABLE?

That in the pick and pop he can make 3 pointers like they are lay ups?

 That his range is silky smooth from 26 ft in?

That he has underrated athleticism and can go to the rim and challenge elite shot blockers/draw fouls against them?

That he is the best rebounder in the league?

That he is the best outlet passer in the league and as a result makes everyone on the team better?
Lord almighty, I can't imagine how much Rondo would love to reel in 60 ft passes from Love all game to ignite the fast break and transition offense.

His defense is getting severely underrated too. He puts good effort in. It seems like people just love to run with the stereotype that he doesn't play D because it's easier than actually watching games and forming an opinion for yourself.

If we get Love, Celtics fans are going to fall in love with him from the moment he steps onto the parquet.

[j804]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

[playdream]

One of my theories that's been gaining steam in my brain the past few weeks whilst these Love rumors are floating about and as I've been reading more and more people saying they really don't want Love that much is that I don't think people realize how good this guy is.

Not sure if you guys do the whole League Pass thing (I do), and I watch a lot of basketball. Kevin Love is arguably the 3rd or 4th best offensive player in the game behind/ahead/tied with James Harden. Do people realize that Kevin Love is UNGUARDABLE?

That in the pick and pop he can make 3 pointers like they are lay ups?

 That his range is silky smooth from 26 ft in?

That he has underrated athleticism and can go to the rim and challenge elite shot blockers/draw fouls against them?

That he is the best rebounder in the league?

That he is the best outlet passer in the league and as a result makes everyone on the team better?
Lord almighty, I can't imagine how much Rondo would love to reel in 60 ft passes from Love all game to ignite the fast break and transition offense.

His defense is getting severely underrated too. He puts good effort in. It seems like people just love to run with the stereotype that he doesn't play D because it's easier than actually watching games and forming an opinion for yourself.

If we get Love, Celtics fans are going to fall in love with him from the moment he steps onto the parquet.

If he is THAT good why his team NEVER make the playoffs
Love is overrated, every point he get he lose 2 on defense, he doesn't do things that help the team to win, instead just padding his number in a bad team

[Celtics39]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

Interesting. So you're saying that if we just use all of our picks then they will all turn into super duper stars and we will win many Championships?

No, there is no guarantee any of our draft picks will turn into anything at all.

Acquiring a top 5 player in the NBA = bad idea now?

Alright then.