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if we can't land Love, should we trade Rondo for a top 10 pick?

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Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2014, 10:26:57 PM »

Offline BballTim

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ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!  The 10 pick in the draft, heck, why not 2 2nd round picks?  Why don't we send him to NY for Bargani and a 2nd round pick.

NEWS FLASH -  Rondo is a 4th All-Star and just 28 years old.  What do you expect to get with the 10th pick?  I know, we draft a guy who might become Rondo in 5 or 6 years.

You're aware that we suck right now right? Unless we trade for Love or another All Star (and that's the assumption for this thread), we're not going anywhere next season, with or without Rondo.  By the time the rest of our team is good enough to compete, Rondo will be past his prime, and it's likely that whoever is drafted at #10 will be better than him.  That is what should matter since we'll actually be competitive at that point.  Not to mention that Rondo will almost certainly lower our chances of getting a stud next year and will probably leave for a better team after that if we don't get him any help.
Rondo is also something like the 8th - 10th best PG in the league at this point, so while he's a very good player, the value that we can get in return needs to be kept in perspective.

  Rondo was a top 3-4 pg in the league before he was hurt. He'll probably be the same when he's fully recovered.

Really? He'll have to be better than plenty of guys to do so...Paul, Parker, Curry, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, Rose, Lillard, etc.

I think saying he'll be a top 10 PG is probably a much safer bet.

  Opinions vary. I'd guess you thought he was a top 10 pg when he was 3rd team all-nba, I doubt he'll do anything to change your opinion in the future.

Well, for starters that was back in 2012. In addition, there were 3 PGs that were placed ahead of him in the all-nba teams (Paul 1st team, Westbrook and Parker 2nd team).  Also, Rose was out that year so a healthy Rose, league MVP the year prior, would put him 5th. This also doesn't account for the improvements/emergence of Wall, Curry, Irving. So yeah, I think a top 10 PG ranking would be a healthy prognostication.

  Irving's a worse player than he was in 2008, so's Parker. Rose is nowhere right now. Westbrook's pretty overrated. We'll see how the season shakes out next year.

Irving: I sure hope not, he was only 16.

  Haha. He's a worse player than he was in 2012, I can't comment on how he compares to his 2008 self.

Parker: Not sure how you can say he is worse either. He's had two straight all-NBA 2nd team selections. Rondo has never sniffed anything, but that lone 3rd team nomination.

  I can say that having watched some of his games a few years ago and some of his games this year.

Westbrook: So he's overrated, but Rondo isn't? Westbrook has been voted to 3 straight all-NBA second team selections. It's funny, but if Rondo had the same accolades it would become your default counterargument on all criticisms of Rondo.

  I think what you meant to say was if Rondo had those accolades you'd be claiming that they mean nothing. I don't generally bring up Rondo's accolades to show how good he is, more to point out how woefully out of touch people (such as yourself) are when they make the farcical claim that nobody outside of Boston has a high opinion of Rondo.

  And Westbrook's still overrated.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2014, 02:34:14 AM »

Offline michael 26

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At first I that there's no way it's worth it to trade Rondo. He is my favorite player and without him the Celtics will be a team full of only young guys and not enough experience. Then I thought about it and maybe such a young team would be good, getting Smart instead of Rondo and having another good rookie would be good. Maybe a year from now Danny Ainge will suceed in getting a big name to join the C's. But still Rondo should get his chance to recover and he can be a franchise player. I don't want to lose him!

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2014, 07:17:04 AM »

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we shall see soon enough!!!!!!!!!
LET'S GO CELTICS!

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2014, 07:30:07 AM »

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We won't know what he has in the tank until next season.   I still do not think he has his strength or confidence back.   There is always a chance he may never get it back either.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2014, 07:14:36 AM »

Offline Eddie20

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ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!  The 10 pick in the draft, heck, why not 2 2nd round picks?  Why don't we send him to NY for Bargani and a 2nd round pick.

NEWS FLASH -  Rondo is a 4th All-Star and just 28 years old.  What do you expect to get with the 10th pick?  I know, we draft a guy who might become Rondo in 5 or 6 years.

You're aware that we suck right now right? Unless we trade for Love or another All Star (and that's the assumption for this thread), we're not going anywhere next season, with or without Rondo.  By the time the rest of our team is good enough to compete, Rondo will be past his prime, and it's likely that whoever is drafted at #10 will be better than him.  That is what should matter since we'll actually be competitive at that point.  Not to mention that Rondo will almost certainly lower our chances of getting a stud next year and will probably leave for a better team after that if we don't get him any help.
Rondo is also something like the 8th - 10th best PG in the league at this point, so while he's a very good player, the value that we can get in return needs to be kept in perspective.

  Rondo was a top 3-4 pg in the league before he was hurt. He'll probably be the same when he's fully recovered.

Really? He'll have to be better than plenty of guys to do so...Paul, Parker, Curry, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, Rose, Lillard, etc.

I think saying he'll be a top 10 PG is probably a much safer bet.

  Opinions vary. I'd guess you thought he was a top 10 pg when he was 3rd team all-nba, I doubt he'll do anything to change your opinion in the future.

Well, for starters that was back in 2012. In addition, there were 3 PGs that were placed ahead of him in the all-nba teams (Paul 1st team, Westbrook and Parker 2nd team).  Also, Rose was out that year so a healthy Rose, league MVP the year prior, would put him 5th. This also doesn't account for the improvements/emergence of Wall, Curry, Irving. So yeah, I think a top 10 PG ranking would be a healthy prognostication.

  Irving's a worse player than he was in 2008, so's Parker. Rose is nowhere right now. Westbrook's pretty overrated. We'll see how the season shakes out next year.

Irving: I sure hope not, he was only 16.

  Haha. He's a worse player than he was in 2012, I can't comment on how he compares to his 2008 self.

Parker: Not sure how you can say he is worse either. He's had two straight all-NBA 2nd team selections. Rondo has never sniffed anything, but that lone 3rd team nomination.

  I can say that having watched some of his games a few years ago and some of his games this year.

Westbrook: So he's overrated, but Rondo isn't? Westbrook has been voted to 3 straight all-NBA second team selections. It's funny, but if Rondo had the same accolades it would become your default counterargument on all criticisms of Rondo.

  I think what you meant to say was if Rondo had those accolades you'd be claiming that they mean nothing. I don't generally bring up Rondo's accolades to show how good he is, more to point out how woefully out of touch people (such as yourself) are when they make the farcical claim that nobody outside of Boston has a high opinion of Rondo.

  And Westbrook's still overrated.

He sure is...