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if we can't land Love, should we trade Rondo for a top 10 pick?

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Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 12:19:11 PM »

Offline guava_wrench

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So if we can't land love , melo , or another all-star , I think Rondo has to go. What are the chances of him wanting to stay if we go through another rebuilding year ? I don't want to lose him for nothing .

Lakers make sense with the c's getting Nash and # 7 back. They would still have cap room to sign another max player and more .

Sacremento makes sense for # 8, mclemore, thomas and filler ,bos sends rondo and bradley s+t

Detroit = # 9 and Monroe for Rondo and # 17 , maybe c's send monroe to a 3rd team and get another young player or pick back

I LOVE rondo, but if we can't add to him this year , I think it makes most sense to trade him.

we could end up with Smart/ Vonleh,Randle or Gordon  if we get the Lakers pick

tank another year and hope for the best in the next draft .

Feels like a weak haul for Rondo. Would definitely mean good lottery position next season. I can see it now -- Celtics win the lottery for the weakest draft in years as Silver raises the age minimum.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2014, 09:17:40 PM »

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Can we get a multi time all star who can get a triple double at will and has been first team defense and is still under 29 years old? Because that's what I want for Rondo


Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2014, 09:27:05 PM »

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Can we get a multi time all star who can get a triple double at will and has been first team defense and is still under 29 years old? Because that's what I want for Rondo

  Sounds fair.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2014, 09:44:48 PM »

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I would not trade Rondo straight up for the Lakers pick without having to take Nash back.
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Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2014, 09:50:30 PM »

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I will say, if I read the reports correctly last night, Danny said he could be patient drafting a young guy, and also that they'd be looking at their top 40 prospects. So, it does sound as if if he can't swing a quicker rebuild deal and ends up drafting, he'd be ready for a heavily rebuilding team again next year. Also, it sounds like he might either look to trade down or get Wyc to spring for an early second-rounder. So he probably sees a couple of players he likes in that neighborhood, too.

Now see, this is something I can get behind.

I think we already have a good core of players...with two draft picks that will add more solid role players.  Don't break the bank for Love...if you can land him without gutting either our current team or our future haul of picks, great...if not, Plan B is to keep growing our own players.

Sure, we need to pick up a center...maybe a trade or #6...who knows.  But go into next season with most of this team anxious to continue to build on this past year.  Rondo needs to prove he's recovered enough to be worth a high contract, whether a resign with us or moving on to another team.  He'll push the entire team to play better.

Rak

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2014, 09:51:49 PM »

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I would not trade Rondo straight up for the Lakers pick without having to take Nash back.

Curious...why is that?  I think he's made it clear he doesn't want to leave that area for family reasons.  Is there a benefit from including him in the deal?  Just wondering?

Rak

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2014, 09:57:31 PM »

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I would not trade Rondo straight up for the Lakers pick without having to take Nash back.

Curious...why is that?  I think he's made it clear he doesn't want to leave that area for family reasons.  Is there a benefit from including him in the deal?  Just wondering?

Rak

My language was perhaps not precise.  I would not trade Rondo straight up for the Laker pick, Nash or no Nash.  The pick without Nash would be a better deal than the pick with Nash, but I would not want either package.
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Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2014, 10:01:55 PM »

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I doubt a top 3 pick happens. 1.Cavs have Kyrie (not happening), 2. Philly has MCW (not happening) 3. Rondo most definitely isn't re-signing with MIL (not happening).

If the Celts offered Philly a package of Rondo, J Green, their no 6 and 17 pick for MCW and the no 3 pick, think they do it?

So it's essentially Jabari Parker and MCW for Rondo, Green, and two lesser picks.  I think Philly hangs up the phone.  Besides, Philly already has the #10 pick to pick up another player.

It depends on what ownership want's . If they don't want a long rebuild, which is what would happen by just drafting, or they could take a shot at the playoffs.  Philly could Flip the C's 6th and 17th with Noel, filler for Love, filler. 

That would give Philly Rondo,Green,Love to start off with, and have a TON of cap space to bring in a Center and a solid bench.

That would give the C's MCW,Parker,Sully to build off of. Which if that's our start to a rebuild, I'd be fine with a couple rough seasons of watching that.

It's a long shot, but not out of the question. Teams do odd things, Owners like money, people will show up if the team is competitive, and the Owners make more money by being in the playoffs.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2014, 10:05:57 PM »

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I doubt a top 3 pick happens. 1.Cavs have Kyrie (not happening), 2. Philly has MCW (not happening) 3. Rondo most definitely isn't re-signing with MIL (not happening).

Would Rondo, 6th pick and 17th pick get Milwaukee's 2nd pick, assuming that Embiid slid and was not showing his medical to them? I would give everything we could to get Embiid.  Unfortunately, I think they would reject, but in that case wouldn't Sanders be in play?  So many possible scenarios at play here.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2014, 10:42:46 PM »

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ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!  The 10 pick in the draft, heck, why not 2 2nd round picks?  Why don't we send him to NY for Bargani and a 2nd round pick.

NEWS FLASH -  Rondo is a 4th All-Star and just 28 years old.  What do you expect to get with the 10th pick?  I know, we draft a guy who might become Rondo in 5 or 6 years.





Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2014, 11:52:12 PM »

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The team that needs to replace their PG is Orlando.  Rondo would serve as a strong leader for their young squad.  We trade them Rondo and our #17 pick for their #4 and #12 pick.   

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2014, 12:14:36 AM »

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Nah.

If we don't land Love, I say we draft Smart and Warren, use our TPE to get Asik, re-sign Bradley, and sign Mo Williams as a free agent.

Rondo/Mo Williams/Pressey
Bradley/Smart/Johnson
Green/Warren/Wallace
Olynyk/Sullinger/Bass
Asik/Faverani/Anthony

I'd happily go into the 2014-15 season with that squad.  That's most likely a playoff team next year, and there's plenty of upside. 
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2014, 12:50:03 AM »

Offline celticsfan8591

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ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!  The 10 pick in the draft, heck, why not 2 2nd round picks?  Why don't we send him to NY for Bargani and a 2nd round pick.

NEWS FLASH -  Rondo is a 4th All-Star and just 28 years old.  What do you expect to get with the 10th pick?  I know, we draft a guy who might become Rondo in 5 or 6 years.

You're aware that we suck right now right? Unless we trade for Love or another All Star (and that's the assumption for this thread), we're not going anywhere next season, with or without Rondo.  By the time the rest of our team is good enough to compete, Rondo will be past his prime, and it's likely that whoever is drafted at #10 will be better than him.  That is what should matter since we'll actually be competitive at that point.  Not to mention that Rondo will almost certainly lower our chances of getting a stud next year and will probably leave for a better team after that if we don't get him any help.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2014, 01:48:26 AM »

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ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!  The 10 pick in the draft, heck, why not 2 2nd round picks?  Why don't we send him to NY for Bargani and a 2nd round pick.

NEWS FLASH -  Rondo is a 4th All-Star and just 28 years old.  What do you expect to get with the 10th pick?  I know, we draft a guy who might become Rondo in 5 or 6 years.

You're aware that we suck right now right? Unless we trade for Love or another All Star (and that's the assumption for this thread), we're not going anywhere next season, with or without Rondo.  By the time the rest of our team is good enough to compete, Rondo will be past his prime, and it's likely that whoever is drafted at #10 will be better than him.  That is what should matter since we'll actually be competitive at that point.  Not to mention that Rondo will almost certainly lower our chances of getting a stud next year and will probably leave for a better team after that if we don't get him any help.
Rondo is also something like the 8th - 10th best PG in the league at this point, so while he's a very good player, the value that we can get in return needs to be kept in perspective.

Re: If we can't land Love, Trade Rondo for to 10 pick?
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2014, 01:52:37 AM »

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I'm not allowed to say what I think about all three of your "ideas."