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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2014, 10:12:45 PM »

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He is a great GM, but he tried win and tank and it cost us a top, top pick. It was a definite miscalculation on his part...

Him and Stevens screwed this franchise for the next 5 years by doing this crazy half baked rebuild. Blowing it up was the only way to go. But no he's proud of his current roster and he was happy they fought. I wish he would go back to broadcasting games on TNT.

Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2014, 10:17:12 PM »

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So .....to satisfy Stevens ego ...DA. Let him win those last games and we should have never beat the Heat either.

So now after suffering though a stinking season ......we get a nothing 6 th pick

That won't be enough to get Love

Or possible Elite talent

So now the Only Elite player we have  Rondo...

Has Zero reason to stay with Celtics

Rondo knew DA was screwing up winning those games .....we all knew it .....Rondo knew it ....the world  knew it but he let Stevens win anyway?  Unbelievable

So with poor tanking ...... We lost the Lotto top three ....probably Love and most like ya Will have to trade Rondo ...as we will get Zilch to go with him to compete

All of you ll who had to feel good ......and win a few games

6 pick is a role player at best ,  a nice bench guy ....this will make this team have about 30 wins ....and well suck and be stuck in limbo for another freakin 23 years because people were scard to tank.
Well...now we are in for the super long haul......welcome to nowhere and only repeated tanks can break the ice......we don't have the Lakers luxury of failing at Lottery

Tanking for years .....I predict three more tanking years ....Stevens will have to go.....he won't survive ....we need to tank for talent......he won't


hopefully he can make something happen but i hear ya. i was hoping for top 5 for sure.

Man.....bunches of us predicted this all would happen ....if we won too many games ......so now Danny has this team stuck in limbo with a weak pick that most likely will not land KLove .

No reason for any of this misery to have went down....... He need to shutdown, Bayless, Sully , and Green .   

This is all on Danny's watch ...... Any of us could have done better .....he was chicken to force the team into a tank mode when it really really counted.

Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2014, 10:23:11 PM »

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I can't believe Danny Ainge didn't get fired after we got the 5th overall pick in 2007. That should've been a clear indicator that the man didn't know what he was doing. This just cements that.

Oh, SURE, he made some nice trades and brought pride and a championship to Boston for the first time in 20 years. and SURE, he pulled off probably the best trade of the season by moving a clearly cooked Kevin Garnett and a declining Paul Pierce for a trove of valuable future assets. But he tried to tank and got the 6th overall pick. What's he going to do with that?

When has he ever, EVER, shown the ability to defy the odds and assemble a contender using a 6th pick as a catalyst? When has he ever been able to anything with a 6th pick?

If it was a 5th pick, MAYBE, but a 6th pick? No freakin way. Look up amateur in the dictionary. You'll find a picture of someone better at their job than Danny Ainge.

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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2014, 10:24:03 PM »

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i think this thread is crazy,  but there is something to the idea that ainge tried to straddle the line too much and didn't lose enough games.   i'm not saying it's a right argument,  but it's certainly an interesting discussion and a legit critique.

Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2014, 10:26:14 PM »

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i think this thread is crazy,  but there is something to the idea that ainge tried to straddle the line too much and didn't lose enough games.   i'm not saying it's a right argument,  but it's certainly an interesting discussion and a legit critique.

If we lost every game we "should" have lost, though (and still lost every game we did, even those we "should" have won"), it still doesn't get us into the top three.


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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2014, 10:27:40 PM »

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Would trading Bass and Bayless have resulted in us losing 7 more games (to pass Philly) or 11 more games (to pass Milwaukee)?

Maybe we should have won 8 more games to catch Cleveland.

That's a good one!

Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2014, 10:28:56 PM »

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We ended up with the 6th and 17th pick in a very deep draft.  I'm quite pleased with our GM thank you very much.

Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2014, 10:30:52 PM »

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i think this thread is crazy,  but there is something to the idea that ainge tried to straddle the line too much and didn't lose enough games.   i'm not saying it's a right argument,  but it's certainly an interesting discussion and a legit critique.

This I kind of agree with. Well, I don't agree that it is a legitimate critique but it could be an interesting discussion. The real question is, what were the moves he could've made, and why didn't he make them, with the supposition that he knows what he's doing and has a plan. The sixth pick is a nut shot we haven't seen since 2007, but Danny Ainge has earned so much more faith than to despair about it for more than a minute or 60.

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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2014, 10:37:37 PM »

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Cleveland needs to send a thank you to Danny ......

They can trade their #1 for KLove


And we ll win 30 games a season with Gordon.....until Rondo goes somewhere else .  Praying for a wonderful eight seed ...LOL

And then it's back to tanking once again.....maybe we can sign Irving away from Cleveland , if lLakers go,over the cap and can afford him..... While they steal Drummond and Davis away from nobody teams.

Just do,it right Danny next time .....unwilling to move role players to make the tank work.....we still got valuable assets of Green and Bass ....I forgot .....he don't need to tank .....let's see how far Green and Bass get us this year........and we got Wallace too .....oh boy ......if there was ever. A decent time to tank like the sixers , DA just blew it

But I'm hoping he can redeem hisself and land KLove like everybody thinks he can.....I say. 5 percent chance with Cleevland holding all the cards once again......in this un rigged draft.
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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2014, 10:38:06 PM »

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i think this thread is crazy,  but there is something to the idea that ainge tried to straddle the line too much and didn't lose enough games.   i'm not saying it's a right argument,  but it's certainly an interesting discussion and a legit critique.

This I kind of agree with. Well, I don't agree that it is a legitimate critique but it could be an interesting discussion. The real question is, what were the moves he could've made, and why didn't he make them, with the supposition that he knows what he's doing and has a plan. The sixth pick is a nut shot we haven't seen since 2007, but Danny Ainge has earned so much more faith than to despair about it for more than a minute or 60.

Well he could have unloaded a few of the guys like Bass.  We know why he didn't though,  Ainge won't lose a trade.   For the most part this is a good way of going about things.   He generally does great in trades getting max value.    I suppose he could have conceded some value to ensure we lost more games.     

Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2014, 10:41:27 PM »

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Take a chill pill OP. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2014, 10:45:59 PM »

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i think this thread is crazy,  but there is something to the idea that ainge tried to straddle the line too much and didn't lose enough games.   i'm not saying it's a right argument,  but it's certainly an interesting discussion and a legit critique.

This I kind of agree with. Well, I don't agree that it is a legitimate critique but it could be an interesting discussion. The real question is, what were the moves he could've made, and why didn't he make them, with the supposition that he knows what he's doing and has a plan. The sixth pick is a nut shot we haven't seen since 2007, but Danny Ainge has earned so much more faith than to despair about it for more than a minute or 60.

Well he could have unloaded a few of the guys like Bass.  We know why he didn't though,  Ainge won't lose a trade.   For the most part this is a good way of going about things.   He generally does great in trades getting max value.    I suppose he could have conceded some value to ensure we lost more games.     

But that's assuming there was a deal on the table where Ainge can get rid of Bass for a less useful player with less or equal years on his contract. With the way people are keeping an eye on their caps for 2014 and 2015, that's far from a sure thing.

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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2014, 10:47:16 PM »

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He is a great GM, but he tried win and tank and it cost us a top, top pick. It was a definite miscalculation on his part...

Him and Stevens screwed this franchise for the next 5 years by doing this crazy half baked rebuild. Blowing it up was the only way to go. But no he's proud of his current roster and he was happy they fought. I wish he would go back to broadcasting games on TNT.
What the heck are you talking about? Screwed what up? Where is this team in a worse position than where it was in '07? They have MORE assets. He's done a masterful job. IMO your post has ZERO credibility.

There's a little thing called statistics that always wins. You're crazy if you tanking is easy and acceptable.
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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2014, 10:48:17 PM »

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i think this thread is crazy,  but there is something to the idea that ainge tried to straddle the line too much and didn't lose enough games.   i'm not saying it's a right argument,  but it's certainly an interesting discussion and a legit critique.

This I kind of agree with. Well, I don't agree that it is a legitimate critique but it could be an interesting discussion. The real question is, what were the moves he could've made, and why didn't he make them, with the supposition that he knows what he's doing and has a plan. The sixth pick is a nut shot we haven't seen since 2007, but Danny Ainge has earned so much more faith than to despair about it for more than a minute or 60.

Well he could have unloaded a few of the guys like Bass.  We know why he didn't though,  Ainge won't lose a trade.   For the most part this is a good way of going about things.   He generally does great in trades getting max value.    I suppose he could have conceded some value to ensure we lost more games.     

But that's assuming there was a deal on the table where Ainge can get rid of Bass for a less useful player with less or equal years on his contract. With the way people are keeping an eye on their caps for 2014 and 2015, that's far from a sure thing.

Yeah, my guess is that if the Celts could have dumped Bass for an expiring contract, they would have.


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Re: Fire Ainge
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2014, 10:49:08 PM »

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I don't know Fire Ainge.

Is that his alter ego?
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.