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Re: Reality Check...Draft Smart/Trade Rondo
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2014, 09:55:23 AM »

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Rondo has value...I just think we over value him.  The going rate on an all-star point guard (Jrue Holiday) is the #6 pick in an awful draft and an additional mid-first.  For Rondo I would like to believe we could expect a little more but as I listed above, with all the teams that have a PG the demand can't be that high.

It's hard to tell what was true about the Kings rumors, one thing that was for sure is they wouldn't do a deal if he didn't sign an extension and that's not going to happen.

You are kind of underrating the Holiday trade. The #6 selection was Noel, who most thought should have been the #1 pick, but who teams didn't want to wait for. This was not a problem for Philly. And the additional mid-first is actually the #10 pick in what people already knew was going to be a huge draft. For a guy like Holiday, this is a good haul - I would expect Rondo to fetch more than him.

And I also agree that Houston would just love to get out of the Asik and Lin contracts - there isn't any way that we simply trade them Rondo for them. Parsons and two picks are the minimum on a Rondo return.

Overall, I do appreciate the fact that you aren't overly optimistic about what we can get for our players - people usually swing in the other direction.

Re: Reality Check...Draft Smart/Trade Rondo
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2014, 10:20:55 AM »

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Rondo has value...I just think we over value him.  The going rate on an all-star point guard (Jrue Holiday) is the #6 pick in an awful draft and an additional mid-first.  For Rondo I would like to believe we could expect a little more but as I listed above, with all the teams that have a PG the demand can't be that high.

It's hard to tell what was true about the Kings rumors, one thing that was for sure is they wouldn't do a deal if he didn't sign an extension and that's not going to happen.

You are kind of underrating the Holiday trade. The #6 selection was Noel, who most thought should have been the #1 pick, but who teams didn't want to wait for. This was not a problem for Philly. And the additional mid-first is actually the #10 pick in what people already knew was going to be a huge draft. For a guy like Holiday, this is a good haul - I would expect Rondo to fetch more than him.

And I also agree that Houston would just love to get out of the Asik and Lin contracts - there isn't any way that we simply trade them Rondo for them. Parsons and two picks are the minimum on a Rondo return.

Overall, I do appreciate the fact that you aren't overly optimistic about what we can get for our players - people usually swing in the other direction.

Holiday was 23 and coming off of an All-Star season -- Rondo is 28 and coming off a torn ACL. You really think we'll get a better deal than Philly?
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Re: Reality Check...Draft Smart/Trade Rondo
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2014, 10:26:02 AM »

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Rondo has value...I just think we over value him.  The going rate on an all-star point guard (Jrue Holiday) is the #6 pick in an awful draft and an additional mid-first.  For Rondo I would like to believe we could expect a little more but as I listed above, with all the teams that have a PG the demand can't be that high.

It's hard to tell what was true about the Kings rumors, one thing that was for sure is they wouldn't do a deal if he didn't sign an extension and that's not going to happen.

You are kind of underrating the Holiday trade. The #6 selection was Noel, who most thought should have been the #1 pick, but who teams didn't want to wait for. This was not a problem for Philly. And the additional mid-first is actually the #10 pick in what people already knew was going to be a huge draft. For a guy like Holiday, this is a good haul - I would expect Rondo to fetch more than him.

And I also agree that Houston would just love to get out of the Asik and Lin contracts - there isn't any way that we simply trade them Rondo for them. Parsons and two picks are the minimum on a Rondo return.

Overall, I do appreciate the fact that you aren't overly optimistic about what we can get for our players - people usually swing in the other direction.

Holiday was 23 and coming off of an All-Star season -- Rondo is 28 and coming off a torn ACL. You really think we'll get a better deal than Philly?

Rondo has a proven track record however, though I agree that at the moment his value is lower than it was a few years ago.

I'm sure pick 6 (should we end up there) and Rondo could get us a top 3 and maybe a decent player though depending on the team and if we wanted to go in that direction. I doubt DA does, but that would signal a full blown rebuild

Re: Reality Check...Draft Smart/Trade Rondo
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2014, 10:29:04 AM »

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I don't think any of the Teams picking in the top 3 would go for that aside from the Lakers though -- the rest seem pretty content on Thunder-ing it out.
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