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Re: offseason situations , what would you do?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2014, 12:46:33 PM »

Offline vl819

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Im sorry but with the team's newfound hunger to win games, the chances of drafting Wiggins or Parker are long and unrealistic odds

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2014, 12:51:02 PM »

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To the OP questions. 1. Nah, at least not straight away, Wiggins could do some development at SG and if its I feel Parker it might be better to have Green than Bass or Humphries. 2. I would match the offer for Bradley if and only if, its not one of those cheeky poison pill contracts, and if the offering team is willing to sit down and talk Sign and trade, and 3. Read the text under my username. I'm too much a Rondo fan to trade him for anything.
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2014, 01:57:55 PM »

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1)if we draft either wiggins or parker , do you trade Jeff Green?

2) another team offer AB 5 years at 7 million a year. Do you match it?

3) sac offers their 2014 7-9 1st pick and Jason Thompson for Rondo. Do you make the trade?

Number 3 iam guessing most will say no.  However can you get a better return in the 2015 trade deadline?  Rondo has not given indication of 100 percent he is going to resign long term with the team. He has actually stated that he is looking fwd to the FA process.

Also it doesnt help that we will still be in rebuild mode next season. It's a risky situation and I dont think Danny takes a chance of letting Rondo walk for free like the lakers did with DHoward.

So you rather get a sure top 10 pick in a strong draft  or 2 late 1sts and a wallace and another humphries?

1. Only if the return is worth it. I think Jeff could play along side either Wiggins or Parker. Create a 3 wing rotation with either AB, Green or the rookie coming off the bench.

2. No , anything under 6.5 match it anything over sad to see AB go.

3. No,No,No Thompson is not a long term solution at center and the 7th-9th is likely Randle, Gordon or Mcdermott all great prospects but not worth Rondo.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2014, 02:19:22 PM »

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1)if we draft either wiggins or parker , do you trade Jeff Green?
IMHO, if we get Parker, yes.  I think Parker slots into that spot, can probably start right away and we are stuck with GW for at least one more year, while Green is tradable.

If we get Wiggins, no (instead we let go of or trade Bradley).  Wiggins can slot into the SG role between Rondo & Green and that should work really well together since neither Green nor Wiggins needs to have the ball in their hands much and can space the floor for each other.

Of the two scenarios, I think the former might mean one more year of tanking - err, development - while the latter might actually result in a pretty competitive lineup, depending on what happens up front.

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2) another team offer AB 5 years at 7 million a year. Do you match it?


I think it depends on question (1).   7M is in that grey area of yes/no/maybe/depends on what else is going on.

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3) sac offers their 2014 7-9 1st pick and Jason Thompson for Rondo. Do you make the trade?


No.

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Rondo has not given indication of 100 percent he is going to resign long term with the team.

Why on earth would you ever expect an athlete to give '100 percent' indication of what he'll do in a contract decision much later down the road, when negotiations still have to happen?   Same on the other side:  I don't understand why people think Danny should give '100 percent' indication that he absolutely intends to keep Rondo.

That's just not how negotiations work.   The lack of either side saying anything 100% committal  means nothing positive or negative.   In fact, one side doing that can sometimes kill negotiations because throwing away leverage can inadvertently lead to unreasonable offers from the other side.

All we can say at this time is that we have no more reason to believe Rondo will go than that he will stay.

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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2014, 02:49:30 PM »

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1)if we draft either wiggins or parker , do you trade Jeff Green?

If the Celtics draft Wiggins or Parker, I would strongly considering bringing either guy off the bench initially and make him earn a starting role instead of guaranteeing playing time just because a high draft pick has been invested in him.

Even if the Celtics draft either guy, I'd be happy going into next season with Green and Bradley starting.
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2014, 03:08:43 PM »

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Im sorry but with the team's newfound hunger to win games, the chances of drafting Wiggins or Parker are long and unrealistic odds

Yup. Give the Sixers credit. They are awesome at sucking.

On the other hand, the Celts chances of getting a top 3 pick is getting slimmer and slimmer

Not to mention in the remaining 14 games left, they play beatable teams like the Sixers (twice), Cavs, Raptors, Hawks (whom they've already beaten), Pistons (whom they've already beaten) and Bobcats.

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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2014, 03:46:32 AM »

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1)if we draft either wiggins or parker , do you trade Jeff Green?

2) another team offer AB 5 years at 7 million a year. Do you match it?

3) sac offers their 2014 7-9 1st pick and Jason Thompson for Rondo. Do you make the trade?

Number 3 iam guessing most will say no.  However can you get a better return in the 2015 trade deadline?  Rondo has not given indication of 100 percent he is going to resign long term with the team. He has actually stated that he is looking fwd to the FA process.

Also it doesnt help that we will still be in rebuild mode next season. It's a risky situation and I dont think Danny takes a chance of letting Rondo walk for free like the lakers did with DHoward.

So you rather get a sure top 10 pick in a strong draft  or 2 late 1sts and a wallace and another humphries?

1) Yes.  If you can structure the deal to bring back a first round pick and expiring contract or structure the deal to get a 2nd round pick and move Green off the books entirely.   

2) No.  Another team can only offer Bradley 4 year deal but no need to match 7 million per year.  Too much money for what he has shown so far.   

3) It makes sense to move on from Rondo so yes if that was the best offer out there. 

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2014, 07:11:05 AM »

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1)if we draft either wiggins or parker , do you trade Jeff Green?

2) another team offer AB 5 years at 7 million a year. Do you match it?

3) sac offers their 2014 7-9 1st pick and Jason Thompson for Rondo. Do you make the trade?

Number 3 iam guessing most will say no.  However can you get a better return in the 2015 trade deadline?  Rondo has not given indication of 100 percent he is going to resign long term with the team. He has actually stated that he is looking fwd to the FA process.

Also it doesnt help that we will still be in rebuild mode next season. It's a risky situation and I dont think Danny takes a chance of letting Rondo walk for free like the lakers did with DHoward.

So you rather get a sure top 10 pick in a strong draft  or 2 late 1sts and a wallace and another humphries?

1) Yes.  If you can structure the deal to bring back a first round pick and expiring contract or structure the deal to get a 2nd round pick and move Green off the books entirely.   

2) No.  Another team can only offer Bradley 4 year deal but no need to match 7 million per year.  Too much money for what he has shown so far.   

3) It makes sense to move on from Rondo so yes if that was the best offer out there.

I pretty much agree

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2014, 07:43:41 AM »

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I'll answer 1 and 2 together. If you keep JG around then you don't match AB. The offer is too long (even if it's 4 years) and too much wrapped up in 2 players that are not going to lead us to our next championship.

3. Not even close to value.
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2014, 08:31:49 AM »

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Either trade Rondo for a lottery pick or use him to dump Wallace and Green. This team is a wreck. Danny failed at putting this team in the best possible draft position by holding onto role players like Rondo Hump Bass Bradley etc... That are massively overrated on this board. I've said it before rondo is at best a 3rd option on a legit title contender. If you can rob a team on draft night for a lottery pick then do it.

By the way for all of the people who gave me garbage 2 months ago about calling Rondo overrated and a good role player who could only thrive on a title contender...he hasn't really lit the world on fire...has he?

Deal him for a lotto pick and use it on Hood Gordon McDermott or Smart. I'm not high on Randle stock has been plummeting for a reason.

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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2014, 09:52:14 AM »

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As for trading Rondo, the Celtics front office will definitely explore that option more in the off season. He's given no strong indication that he wants to resign here and he's going to have a lot more trade value now that he's playing at a high level. I could see Houston going strong after Rondo this summer.

  While it's true that Rondo said he's interested in seeing what the FA process is like (same thing PP said in 2010 btw) he's given pretty strong indications he wants to re-sign here, in fact he's said that before.

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2014, 07:09:52 PM »

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Either trade Rondo for a lottery pick or use him to dump Wallace and Green. This team is a wreck. Danny failed at putting this team in the best possible draft position by holding onto role players like Rondo Hump Bass Bradley etc... That are massively overrated on this board. I've said it before rondo is at best a 3rd option on a legit title contender. If you can rob a team on draft night for a lottery pick then do it.

By the way for all of the people who gave me garbage 2 months ago about calling Rondo overrated and a good role player who could only thrive on a title contender...he hasn't really lit the world on fire...has he?

Deal him for a lotto pick and use it on Hood Gordon McDermott or Smart. I'm not high on Randle stock has been plummeting for a reason.
Rondo doesn't need to be the 3rd option on a title contender. Chandler (NY - not that they're a title contender this season)... Look at where the Knicks have been without him and nobody would say he's a superstar scoring option. Rondo is not built to be a top scoring option and I'm comfortable with that. He is there to run the offense and set up his teammates. And he's the best player in the league at doing that.
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2014, 08:23:36 PM »

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1) Depending on the return I'd trade Green, but I wouldn't mind at all having Green as the starter next year and Parker/Wiggins coming off the bench or Wiggins at SG.

2) Not a chance I'd resign him for that money.  Too expensive and too long a contract.  S&T would be nice payoff if another team wants to pony up that kind of dough for him.

3) No.  Not enough for rondo.  I would trade him if the deal did the following: good draft pick this year that provides a road to our future starting PG (i.e.: Isaiah Thomas stop gap maybe with the drafting of Marcus Smart), and another valuable chip (or two depending on the quality.  maybe a starter quality C or a decent player and another 1st).

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2014, 10:41:28 PM »

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1. Yes, trade Green. 2. No, do not sign AB. 3. No, but I thought Sac's pick belonged to someone else?