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Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2014, 06:00:05 PM »

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Unreal outcome.
To think that we couldn't peel a young prospect and a 2nd rounder for Bass is amazing.
Would you give up a young prospect and 2nd rounder for a backup big like Bass?  Me neither.

Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2014, 06:02:42 PM »

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i don't think anyone can really celebrate here.  Those who wanted us to trade vets (Rondo, Green, Bass) for young assets/picks should be pretty disappointed.

Those who wanted us to upgrade the roster should be a bit disappointed... we just wasted Humph's 12 mil expiring, Bogans 5 mil expiring and the Paul Pierce trade exception.  Seems those assets will expire with nothing in return.

I'm rather surprised we did nothing.  But we could still possibly get a bigtime pick this year and keeping Rondo certainly isn't something to be sad about.

I can celebrate.  Ainge did what I wanted him to do: avoid giving anyone away for pennies on the dollar.  There is no urgency to do a deal unless it brings back more value than is sent out.

Nothing has been wasted.  Humphries contract was unlikely to be traded unless a big contract guy was coming back.  Bogans is not an expiring contract, he is an unguaranteed contract who can be used during the off-season.  The trade exception was unlikely to be used until the short window between the end of the July moratorium and when it expires due to the Celtics being close to the luxury tax and hard-capped due to acquiring Bogans via sign-and-trade.

I would have been happy with Bass/Bogans/1st for Asik, but I wouldn't want to overpay for Asik.

Right now, I'd like Ainge to consider offering buyouts to Humphries and Bayless and think about taking a flyer on some D-League talent, then sit tight and wait until the off-season for opportunities to add talent to Rondo.
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Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2014, 06:08:41 PM »

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I can't believe the flak ainge is taking and the outcry of "we needed to trade rondo now" amongst C's fans.

maybe there just wasn't a deal out there. if you guys all want to just give players away i'm sure we could accumulate all the 2nd rnd picks we want, they're worthless but i'm sure we could.


Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2014, 06:13:14 PM »

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We'll be fine. Danny did his homework early, and if he didn't get a decent offer, I'm ok with standing pat.

Draft night and the first 12 days of July will be exciting, but the real deal will be before or around next trade deadline. Expect a big trade with an All Star coming to the Celtics... or just have fun watching Brad Stevens become the best coach in the League.

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Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2014, 06:16:06 PM »

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Unreal outcome.
To think that we couldn't peel a young prospect and a 2nd rounder for Bass is amazing.
Would you give up a young prospect and 2nd rounder for a backup big like Bass?  Me neither.
Pretty much what I say.  Bass isn't even worth an expiring and a bag of chips.

Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2014, 06:31:49 PM »

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I said nothing would happen. I just didn't realistically see Ainge finding a way to dump Wallace, successfully market Bass or Green for either first-rounders or prospects due to their contracts or get a decent return for Rondo. I'm not surprised and I'm not frustrated either.

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« Reply #81 on: February 20, 2014, 06:38:51 PM »

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Unreal outcome.
To think that we couldn't peel a young prospect and a 2nd rounder for Bass is amazing.
Would you give up a young prospect and 2nd rounder for a backup big like Bass?  Me neither.
Pretty much what I say.  Bass isn't even worth an expiring and a bag of chips.

I'm pretty sure he said "or". Dunno what happened there. Maybe he edited it.

Unreal outcome.
To think that we couldn't peel a young prospect or an expiring and a 2nd rounder for Bass is amazing.

Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2014, 06:39:09 PM »

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I said nothing would happen. I just didn't realistically see Ainge finding a way to dump Wallace, successfully market Bass or Green for either first-rounders or prospects due to their contracts or get a decent return for Rondo. I'm not surprised and I'm not frustrated either.
Well, if that is what DA was after, no wonder.  No way was he ever getting firsts for Green or Bass.  And no way would he able to dump Wallace without giving up something as well.  Shoot, I don't think he oculd have dumped Bass for expiring;  forget about Wallace.

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« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2014, 06:43:48 PM »

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Unreal outcome.
To think that we couldn't peel a young prospect and a 2nd rounder for Bass is amazing.
Would you give up a young prospect and 2nd rounder for a backup big like Bass?  Me neither.

To get rid of him. Yes. ;)
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Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2014, 06:54:39 PM »

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Haha! ;D

Really, if I'm being totally honest, I wanted Bass moved to give Kelly more minutes. I think Bass is an excellent backup on a contender but he isn't a starter on one unless we have other players like KG who can motivate and cover for him. I think it's time to give the young guys the court time to develop, we are just as likely to win playing Kelly as we are playing Bass. Hump is someone I want signed for 4-5m at most next season b/c I really like him but I wouldn't mind him being traded for those minutes to be freed also. All the other good rookies get the amount of minutes and room to make the mistakes that Kelly doesn't b/c we can easily go with Bass or Hump instead.


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« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2014, 06:55:21 PM »

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Unreal outcome.
To think that we couldn't peel a young prospect and a 2nd rounder for Bass is amazing.
Would you give up a young prospect and 2nd rounder for a backup big like Bass?  Me neither.
Pretty much what I say.  Bass isn't even worth an expiring and a bag of chips.

Hawes, who is taller and has been more productive than Bass, was traded for just two 2nd rounders, so why would we expect to get a good young prospect and a 2nd rounder for Bass?

Overall, Phili, with Turner and Hawes, undersold us and stole the action today. Ainge did the smart thing and forwarded his assets to June.

Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #86 on: February 20, 2014, 06:55:44 PM »

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I said nothing would happen. I just didn't realistically see Ainge finding a way to dump Wallace, successfully market Bass or Green for either first-rounders or prospects due to their contracts or get a decent return for Rondo. I'm not surprised and I'm not frustrated either.
Well, if that is what DA was after, no wonder.  No way was he ever getting firsts for Green or Bass.  And no way would he able to dump Wallace without giving up something as well.  Shoot, I don't think he oculd have dumped Bass for expiring;  forget about Wallace.
I didn't mean dump Wallace as a stand alone, that's more or less impossible. But I couldn't imagine any prospective packages he could make that would make Wallace appealing enough that he'd also get something decent in return. Fair point about Green and Bass. Considering how highly firsts are valued, they probably won't have gone for one.

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« Reply #87 on: February 20, 2014, 07:59:08 PM »

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I said nothing would happen. I just didn't realistically see Ainge finding a way to dump Wallace, successfully market Bass or Green for either first-rounders or prospects due to their contracts or get a decent return for Rondo. I'm not surprised and I'm not frustrated either.
Well, if that is what DA was after, no wonder.  No way was he ever getting firsts for Green or Bass.  And no way would he able to dump Wallace without giving up something as well.  Shoot, I don't think he oculd have dumped Bass for expiring;  forget about Wallace.
I didn't mean dump Wallace as a stand alone, that's more or less impossible. But I couldn't imagine any prospective packages he could make that would make Wallace appealing enough that he'd also get something decent in return. Fair point about Green and Bass. Considering how highly firsts are valued, they probably won't have gone for one.
agreed, which to me makes ainge's trade for KG and pierce all the more amazing in terms of the first round picks he acquired.

bass will be gone, along with the hump during the summer. we must be patient.
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Re: And nothing happened...
« Reply #88 on: February 20, 2014, 08:08:01 PM »

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I have a feeling there was a lot of low balling when teams were calling, thinking that DA wanted to go into full tank mode.

But come draft night when every one knows where they stand, and the bad teams that have been bad for so long need to get better to start making some money, our players will look a little better and could get more for them than at this point.

I do wish some thing happened, but I'm glad it wasn't something just for the sake of doing something.

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« Reply #89 on: February 20, 2014, 08:09:07 PM »

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Unreal outcome.
To think that we couldn't peel a young prospect and a 2nd rounder for Bass is amazing.
Would you give up a young prospect and 2nd rounder for a backup big like Bass?  Me neither.

Yeah I edited the post because I used the wrong wording when I re-read it.

Actually I thought a team like Portland or Charlotte or any playoff hunting team would love his shooting.
Something like a 5 million dollar expiring deal and a crappy 2nd rounder or a 'bust' with some possible potential left like Thomas Robinson who's rotting away on Portland's bench.

Ainge may have some contingency in place with another GM. Green was always gonna be a nightmare to move but I'm shocked that no one jumped on Bass-unless Danny wanted too much.

I wonder if Bass just sits more now and Olynyk gets more burn.   
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