Should KG's number be retired

[Fafnir]

Guys like bird, mchale, parish deserve their numbers to be retired Can you really compare kgs career as a celtic compared to these guys?

What about Jo Jo White, Dennis Johnson, Satch Sanders, Tommy Heinshon (as a player), Don Nelson, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauely, Frank Ramsey, Sam Jones, KC Jones, Cedric Maxwell, and Reggie Lewis?

Its not like its just Bird, McHale, and Parish.

[Roy H.]

Guys like bird, mchale, parish deserve their numbers to be retired. Can you really compare kgs career as a celtic compared to these guys?

You probably can't compare KG's Celtic career to those players.

What about a guy like Cedric Maxwell, though? KG compares to him, right? Or Ed Macauley?

[Fafnir]

If kgs number is retired how is ray allens not?

KG was a much better player.

[Donoghus]

Guys like bird, mchale, parish deserve their numbers to be retired. Can you really compare kgs career as a celtic compared to these guys?

You probably can't compare KG's Celtic career to those players.

What about a guy like Cedric Maxwell, though? KG compares to him, right? Or Ed Macauley?

Exactly.

Given what's already hanging from the rafters, KG matches or surpasses a handful of guys already up there despite his shortened Celtics tenure.

Blame the criteria if you want but KG belongs.

[Tr1boy]

No.than ray allen and perks numbers should go up also

What exactly would qualify Perk for having his number raised?

What qualifies kg to have his numbers up then? His stats were modest here vs what he did in minny. He helped us win but so did allen, perk.

His stats his first two years were in line with MVP caliber performances, we just played him less minutes to keep him fresh and he shot less to give Pierce/Allen touches.

His adjusted +/- were top of the league even after his injury for several years. Just as good as in Minnesota despite his injury and aging.

He was better in Minnesota, but he was also in his prime then. His play earned it while he was here.

I think you are excusing kg in like many fans are.

He didnt do enough to get his numbered retired. He cant compare to paul pierces career as a celtics. He cant compare to birds.

Even drexlers number has more legit reasons to go up in portland(no rings) vs kg with 1 ring and 6 years with us.

[D.o.s.]

If kgs number is retired how is ray allens not?

KG was a much better player.

You can also say that Ray forewent his chance at a retired jersey by leaving in free agency, for half the money, to play in Miami.

I don't blame him for doing so, but I also think that pretty clearly disallows him from a number. I've got the Big Three Jerseys all framed together, but I think Paul and KG get the rafters treatment.

[Tr1boy]

Guys like bird, mchale, parish deserve their numbers to be retired Can you really compare kgs career as a celtic compared to these guys?

What about Jo Jo White, Dennis Johnson, Satch Sanders, Tommy Heinshon (as a player), Don Nelson, Bill Sharman, Ed Macauely, Frank Ramsey, Sam Jones, KC Jones, Cedric Maxwell, and Reggie Lewis?

Its not like its just Bird, McHale, and Parish.

Like I said before some numbers sb un retired. Or at least some numbers be able to be used again

Just bc theirs went up doesnt mean to continue the trend imo.

[Professor of Rondology]

KG played in twice as many games for the Timberwolves as for the Celtics. He may have shifted the culture of the Celtics more dramatically than any other player in history, but simple math disqualifies him.

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yep

[D.o.s.]

KG played in twice as many games for the Timberwolves as for the Celtics. He may have shifted the culture of the Celtics more dramatically than any other player in history, but simple math disqualifies him.

[Roy H.]

KG played in twice as many games for the Timberwolves as for the Celtics. He may have shifted the culture of the Celtics more dramatically than any other player in history, but simple math disqualifies him.

Any reason he can't have his number retired with multiple franchises?

[hpantazo]

KG played in twice as many games for the Timberwolves as for the Celtics. He may have shifted the culture of the Celtics more dramatically than any other player in history, but simple math disqualifies him.

There is no written rule that disqualifies him. Any notion that his number should not be retired is absurd. He single handedly changed the culture of the team and brought back the public perception of the celtics as a great franchise. His long term impact goes well beyond banner 17.

[Tr1boy]

KG played in twice as many games for the Timberwolves as for the Celtics. He may have shifted the culture of the Celtics more dramatically than any other player in history, but simple math disqualifies him.

Imo some of it is a popularity contest and having one of the best pfs playing for us that makes the fans want to "have" him.

Like u said the math doesnt add up. My criteria is years doesnt matter as long as top 15 or close to it in one or more celtics stat category (starting point). Or 2 rings and 5 years (big part of the team) or three rings(big part) regardless of how many additional years with the team

[Enzzo]

No.than ray allen and perks numbers should go up also

What exactly would qualify Perk for having his number raised?

What qualifies kg to have his numbers up then? His stats were modest here vs what he did in minny. He helped us win but so did allen, perk.

I think putting up a number due to popularity and bc he is considered one of the best pfs of all time is not right.

Guys like bird, mchale, parish deserve their numbers to be retired. Can you really compare kgs career as a celtic compared to these guys?

Honestly, it's really not about the stats (for me, at least). KG brought heart, determination, and leadership to the celtics. He wasn't here as long as other players, but everything he did while he was here, was what it means to be a celtic. He had the Celtic pride in a league where people will ditch a team for a pay raise. He was loyal to us and gave us all he had, he deserved the tribute last night and he deserves to have his number retired. In my eyes, he will always be a Celtic.

[hpantazo]

KG played in twice as many games for the Timberwolves as for the Celtics. He may have shifted the culture of the Celtics more dramatically than any other player in history, but simple math disqualifies him.

Imo some of it is a popularity contest and having one of the best pfs playing for us that makes the fans want to "have" him.

Like u said the math doesnt add up. My criteria is years doesnt matter as long as top 15 or close to it in one or more celtics stat category (starting point). Or 2 rings and 5 years (big part of the team) or three rings(big part) regardless of how many additional years with the team

The math doesn't add up argument is meaningless. There are no rules about how many seasons as a celtic or how many banners etc, and there are plenty of retired numbers up there that don't fit your personal criteria.