Amico/Fox sports: Bucks open to Larry Sanders trade for draft picks...

[PhoSita]

I've read through all 5 pages of this topic and all I can say is WOW! Everyone who knows the
C's and wants them to get back to contender status knows we absolutely have to get a rebounding, defensive minded center. Yet, most of the posts here are against taking a chance on Sanders?

One of the most important parts of a rebuild is having patience. 

Yes, the team needs a rebounding / defensive-minded center.  But that doesn't mean the team should be willing to give up any amount of assets or pay any amount of money to acquire and keep such a player.

Absolutely true.  But by most accounts, Sanders would be available for a bargain price right now, because of the nightclub incident, and contract-wise, you would have a hard time doing much better for a defensive anchor type center.  He is locked up longterm in the bottom half of the market for that type of player (not counting those on rookie contracts). 

There are absolutely questions about this guy, but if you can get him for a reasonable deal, then this is what you are patient for.

You're absolutely right that a decent rim protector is always going to cost money (unless he's on a rookie deal).

That said, unless the rim protector is the final piece of the puzzle -- and in this case Sanders certainly would not be -- I wouldn't want to tie up that much money in a player with such limited offensive capability.

As a general rule, I'm not in favor of investing significant resources into players who only make an impact on one end until the team already has a star core in place.

[PhoSita]

When people bring up a the idea that a player is of poor character or a locker room cancer, I'm always reminded of a pair of Jail Blazers that remodeled themselves into a championship-winner and community-supporting model citizen, respectively.

Anyone that guesses both gets a TP.

Rasheed Wallace and Zach Randolph?

[csfansince60s]

When people bring up a the idea that a player is of poor character or a locker room cancer, I'm always reminded of a pair of Jail Blazers that remodeled themselves into a championship-winner and community-supporting model citizen, respectively.

Anyone that guesses both gets a TP.

Zbo and Sheed?

[cletus1985]

When people bring up a the idea that a player is of poor character or a locker room cancer, I'm always reminded of a pair of Jail Blazers that remodeled themselves into a championship-winner and community-supporting model citizen, respectively.

Anyone that guesses both gets a TP.

Sheed and Damon Stoudamire

[hpantazo]

There are also two retired Celtics players who won titles here yet were considered to have character issues before we got them. Dennis Johnson and Robert Parrish

[Boris Badenov]

When people bring up a the idea that a player is of poor character or a locker room cancer, I'm always reminded of a pair of Jail Blazers that remodeled themselves into a championship-winner and community-supporting model citizen, respectively.

Anyone that guesses both gets a TP.

JO and Sheed. Also both Celtics!

[csfansince60s]

When people bring up a the idea that a player is of poor character or a locker room cancer, I'm always reminded of a pair of Jail Blazers that remodeled themselves into a championship-winner and community-supporting model citizen, respectively.

Anyone that guesses both gets a TP.

Zbo and Sheed?

Pippen/Sheed?..I know..2 guesses

[D.o.s.]

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

[csfansince60s]

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

I think it is. and TP for the fun game.

Here is a video of the Sanders bar fight.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/12/4/5176010/larry-sanders-bar-fight-video-bucks

Given that, my next question then becomes "what if there was a video of Sully when he was involved in that domestic abuse incident when he was on top of his girlfriend is how I think it was reported?"

I'm wondering if the same folks who don't think Sanders as worthy to wear the Cs green would feel the same about our sacred cow, Sully (hey, I love him too!).

Just asking.

[ssspence]

But Green makes no sense for the Rockets -- need a third team. And Wallace is a non-starter in an Asik deal.

Green makes a lot of sense for the Rockets.  They were reportedly looking for either a SF or PF and Green can play both.  He can hit a three and will defer to guys like Harden and Howard on offense instead of trying to force himself into the game.  He can provide perimeter defense.

As a combo forward off the bench, he would be an upgrade over Francisco Garcia and Omri Casspi.  As a PF, he'd be a bigger three-point threat than Robinson.

They'd prefer a better rebounder, but if Green is available, he fits a lot of the things they could use.

Rationalize however you want, but one thing you won't see: the Rockets trading for Jeff Green.

[PhoSita]

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

Don't pass on really talented players just because they had some "head-case" / "character" issues when they were young?

Got it.

Larry Sanders doesn't have that kind of talent, though.

[BleedGreen1989]

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

I think it is. and TP for the fun game.

Here is a video of the Sanders bar fight.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/12/4/5176010/larry-sanders-bar-fight-video-bucks

Given that, my next question then becomes "what if there was a video of Sully when he was involved in that domestic abuse incident when he was on top of his girlfriend is how I think it was reported?"

I'm wondering if the same folks who don't think Sanders as worthy to wear the Cs green would feel the same about our sacred cow, Sully (hey, I love him too!).

Just asking.

It's not Sanders off court stuff that worries me as much.

It's that contract.

[D.o.s.]

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

Don't pass on really talented players just because they had some "head-case" / "character" issues when they were young?

Got it.

Larry Sanders doesn't have that kind of talent, though.

He's probably not in the same class as Sheed or Zbo, no. But if you can pick him up at a discount because of his (alleged) headcase-nitude, you can't discount him based solely on that.

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

I think it is. and TP for the fun game.

Here is a video of the Sanders bar fight.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/12/4/5176010/larry-sanders-bar-fight-video-bucks

Given that, my next question then becomes "what if there was a video of Sully when he was involved in that domestic abuse incident when he was on top of his girlfriend is how I think it was reported?"

I'm wondering if the same folks who don't think Sanders as worthy to wear the Cs green would feel the same about our sacred cow, Sully (hey, I love him too!).

Just asking.

Agreed. I also think there's a big difference between getting into a fight at a bar and (allegedly) beating up your girlfriend.

[PhoSita]

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

Don't pass on really talented players just because they had some "head-case" / "character" issues when they were young?

Got it.

Larry Sanders doesn't have that kind of talent, though.

He's probably not in the same class as Sheed or Zbo, no. But if you can pick him up at a discount because of his (alleged) headcase-nitude, you can't discount him based solely on that.

I'm not really concerned about the off-court stuff.

What matters to me is that he's a poor finisher despite his size and the fact that nearly all of his shots are right at the rim.  Yet he's making 8 figures.

[fairweatherfan]

I was thinking of Z-Bo and Sheed... but TP's to everyone.

I hope my point is coming across?

I think it is. and TP for the fun game.

Here is a video of the Sanders bar fight.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/12/4/5176010/larry-sanders-bar-fight-video-bucks

Given that, my next question then becomes "what if there was a video of Sully when he was involved in that domestic abuse incident when he was on top of his girlfriend is how I think it was reported?"

I'm wondering if the same folks who don't think Sanders as worthy to wear the Cs green would feel the same about our sacred cow, Sully (hey, I love him too!).

Just asking.

It's not Sanders off court stuff that worries me as much.

It's that contract.

Yeah - didn't Larry Bird break his hand in a bar fight back in the day?  (EDIT: Yup, during the Finals, no less!) I know Barkley threw some dude through a plate glass window, in Milwaukee too I think, and said his only regret was that the window wasn't on a higher floor 

Getting in a bar fight isn't too bright for anyone, but it hardly disqualifies a guy from being a good player.  But that contract...it's a major risk.