Amico/Fox sports: Bucks open to Larry Sanders trade for draft picks...

[D.o.s.]

I'm with Chambers, I think Roy's letting his idea of what Sanders is like color his judgement on how beneficial he'd be to the team.

He's going to be the cheapest, youngest defensive center we can get our hands on--unless there's someone in the draft who really looks like an Anthony Davis-level defender.

I'd probably bite on Wallace + Clippers 1st (or the worse Between the Celtics/Atlanta-Brooklyn picks).

But Sanders isn't near the level defender Davis is. Davis can have off nights blocking wise, but he will always be an intimidating presence, and no big men play the passing lanes like him. If we could get our hands on Nerlens Noel I'd much rather that.

I was bringing up Davis mostly because he's a great defensive player on a rookie scale contract. He's a better defender than Sanders, but there's no way on earth the Pelicans are going to trade him.

[fantankerous]

He's going to be the cheapest, youngest defensive center we can get our hands on--unless there's someone in the draft who really looks like an Anthony Davis-level defender.

Youngest, possibly.  Not cheapest, though.  A guy like Asik gives you more reliable defense (although not the highlight real), and he has a better contract.

In Sanders you are paying for upside, he is two years younger than Asik with considerably more potential.

But in Asik you're paying for a relatively sure thing.

Asik has had one very good season, just as Sanders did, the difference is Asik played well before he got hurt this year and Sanders didn't. Neither is a sure thing.

Asik's first two years in the league he was also an elite rebounder/rim protector. He was just stuck behind Joakim Noah for minutes.

Better track record than Sanders, but he is a good deal older I believe.

Asik is 27, so I'm not sure if two years qualifies as "a good deal older." 

Sanders is Mark Blount 2.0.  I'll pass.

[Fafnir]

Better track record than Sanders, but he is a good deal older I believe.

Asik is 27, so I'm not sure if two years qualifies as "a good deal older." 

Sanders is Mark Blount 2.0.  I'll pass.

Two and a half years matters a ton when you're looking at the development curve of players.

Asik is what is his at this point in all odds. Larry Sanders still has time to grow.

[Smitty77]

At this point, the Bucks should be sending back draft picks.  He's been that bad.

* He's averaging 6.7 points per game.  That's really bad, but is the second highest total of his four-year career;

* He's shooting 43.3% from the field, which is atrocious for a guy of his size and athleticism.  An anomaly?  Nope.  He's shot below 46% in three out of his four seasons.  He's been a terrible FT shooter, too;

* He's got character issues, both in public and in the locker room;

* He's vastly overpaid starting next year ($44 million over four years);

* He's overrated as a defender, and can't stay out of foul trouble (5.0 PF per 36 minutes).

I've called this guy "Javale McGee 2.0", but that's probably vastly unfair to Javale.  It just doesn't make sense to give up draft picks for the pleasure of having Sanders take up 20% of your salary cap for the next four seasons.

As crazy as it is to say, I'm not even sure if I'd do Wallace + a #2 for Sanders.  You probably have to, I guess, for the potential.  However, between Sanders' attitude, offensive ineptitude, and terrible contract (again, a year longer than Wallace's), I'd be very hesitant.

He had Brandon "I love EVERY shot I can take" Jennings as his PG.  I would venture to guess that his FG percentage would go back over 50% as it was even last year WITH Jennings with Rondo passing to him, rather than shooting!!  He also shot over 60% from the line last year.  Not stellar, but shows me he can certainly be better from the line.

Smitty77

[Donoghus]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

[Evantime34]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

So would you rather have an Asik for Green trade or a Sanders for Wallace and a pick trade or neither?

[ssspence]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

More albatross than Wallace? Because it's one more year? C'mon gang....

[Monkhouse]

Sanders will at least provide more than Wallace ever has done for the Celtics..

If Sanders can shape up, and believe the Celtics are on the path to winning, then he may or may mature and at least 'grow' up in a literal sense.

[D.o.s.]

Another way of looking at this info.

The Bucks are not exactly lighting the world on fire with their attendance numbers. I suspect the last thing they want to do is alienate their fans with a player's behavior.

When you're a dude who's twitter picture is this:


And your twitter handle is "Nappy Gilmore"

And you tweet things like:

Nappy Gilmore ™ ‏@LarrySanders Dec 5
Good thing I didn't get jumped by a bunch of black guys because then it would of been gang related lol sheeeesh

Nappy Gilmore ™ ‏@LarrySanders Dec 5
S/O to all my "thugs"...(FFT)

Nappy Gilmore ™ ‏@LarrySanders Dec 5
My life = your entertainment. .. hope your amused lol

There is, rightly or wrongly, PR involved. It's much easier to let this stuff slide--in the sense that its alienating to a substantial part of the NBA's fan base, not because there's anything inherently wrong with any of it--when you're on a 50 win team. When you're a 7 win team, then it becomes a problem.

[Donoghus]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

More albatross than Wallace? Because it's one more year? C'mon gang....

Probably not but given Sanders track record as of late, it's not beyond the realm of possiblity. 

I think Asik is the safer gamble here.

[Donoghus]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

So would you rather have an Asik for Green trade or a Sanders for Wallace and a pick trade or neither?

Asik for Green trade. 

I just don't see Green as part of the big picture and Asik will fill a glaring need for the Celtics at less cost.

[kozlodoev]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

So would you rather have an Asik for Green trade or a Sanders for Wallace and a pick trade or neither?

Asik for Green trade. 

I just don't see Green as part of the big picture and Asik will fill a glaring need for the Celtics at less cost.

Sanders for Wallace. I'd much rather have a young athletic big with some promise on a big contract than Gerald Wallace on a big contract.

[Donoghus]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

So would you rather have an Asik for Green trade or a Sanders for Wallace and a pick trade or neither?

Asik for Green trade. 

I just don't see Green as part of the big picture and Asik will fill a glaring need for the Celtics at less cost.

Sanders for Wallace. I'd much rather have a young athletic big with some promise on a big contract than Gerald Wallace on a big contract.

Understandable.  I just have my apprehensions about Sanders right now.

[Evantime34]

To add to the Sanders debtate:
http://www.brewhoop.com/2014/1/22/5275028/nate-wolters-larry-sanders-bucks-defensive-splits

"The Bucks have performed like a top-10 defense with Sanders on the floor and a bottom-five unit without him. "

The last section is about Larry Sanders.

[ssspence]

If we could unload Wallace's contract, I'd be more open to it.  It'd be tough to part with a 1st attached to that, though. 

Sanders is a big roll of the dice, IMO.  That contract could turn albatross in a heartbeat.

I'd rather explore the possibility of adding Asik at this point if you can get him at a reasonable terms.

So would you rather have an Asik for Green trade or a Sanders for Wallace and a pick trade or neither?

Asik for Green trade. 

I just don't see Green as part of the big picture and Asik will fill a glaring need for the Celtics at less cost.

But Green makes no sense for the Rockets -- need a third team. And Wallace is a non-starter in an Asik deal.