Bradley Potentially > Ray Allen

[Dog_Lover106]

Fab Melo  >  Kareem Abdul Jabbar

 

JJJ > KG   

Ryan Hollins > The Chief

Pressey > Magic Johnson

You are totally incorrect on Pressey.  He is way to short to be compared to Magic. Let's compromise?

Pressey Potentially > Isiah Thomas

[beklog]

Looks like AB's agent is on to campaign mode for his $8M/yr contract

[kozlodoev]

I don't understand where this "Bradley is a chucker" mentality is coming from.

Perhaps from the fact that right now he needs 14 shots to score less than 15 points per game. Or perhaps from the fact that he's taken 450+ jump shots so far this season (of 589 shots total)? Or maybe due to the fact that 380+ of these have been from 16 feet and out?

That's a chucker alright.

[2short]

I don't understand where this "Bradley is a chucker" mentality is coming from.

Perhaps from the fact that right now he needs 14 shots to score less than 15 points per game. That's a chucker alright.

yep and add to that he has been stopping ball movement all year, instead of deferring to a teammate with a better look bradley has been pumping up the long 2's
some many knock jeff green but at least he'll take it to the basket, bradley needs to beat his man off the dribble on the swing of ball and there should be help defense which in turn would make someone open

i'm starting to think of a bass/bradley package could get us….

[vjcsmoke]

Normally I don't rip on homers.  But wow Op that statement deserves to be ripped into.  Take off the green tint glasses, get some sun.  You're hallucinating.  AB is not half the shooter Ray Allen is and probably will never come close to even 80% of that.

[RRNoLookPass]

I don't understand where this "Bradley is a chucker" mentality is coming from.

Perhaps from the fact that right now he needs 14 shots to score less than 15 points per game. Or perhaps from the fact that he's taken 450+ jump shots so far this season (of 589 shots total)? Or maybe due to the fact that 380+ of these have been from 16 feet and out?

That's a chucker alright.

Or perhaps the majority of Bradley's shots are jumpshots because that is one of the strongest attributes of his game. Who cares if he takes the majority of his shots from 16ft and out, when his long-2 FG% is above average from almost every spot on the floor, with the exception of one zone. Take another look his shot chart.


http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=202340
 
It doesn't matter how many long 2s or jumpshots a player takes if they can shoot them efficiently. With that kind of reasoning, I suppose you think Bass is a chucker too for shooting jumpshots on more than half his FG attempts?

Players have to play within their strengths, and Bradley's major strengths are defense, jumpshooting, and backdoor cuts. And without a decent pass-first PG playing alongside him for the first half of the season, obviously Bradley had to utilize his jumpshot moreso than cutting to the hoop. A lot of Celtics had to force up long 2s this season when Crawford was pounding the ball for half the shotclock on almost every play, and then forcing late passes.

And the fact that Bradley has still been able to maintain a .441 FG% while taking so many long 2s (a shot many players struggle with) shows that he is a much better shooter than people give him credit for.

[manl_lui]

I don't understand where this "Bradley is a chucker" mentality is coming from.

Perhaps from the fact that right now he needs 14 shots to score less than 15 points per game. Or perhaps from the fact that he's taken 450+ jump shots so far this season (of 589 shots total)? Or maybe due to the fact that 380+ of these have been from 16 feet and out?

That's a chucker alright.

Or perhaps the majority of Bradley's shots are jumpshots because that is one of the strongest attributes of his game. Who cares if he takes the majority of his shots from 16ft and out, when his long-2 FG% is above average from almost every spot on the floor, with the exception of one zone. Take another look his shot chart.


http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=202340
 
It doesn't matter how many long 2s or jumpshots a player takes if they can shoot them efficiently. With that kind of reasoning, I suppose you think Bass is a chucker too for shooting jumpshots on more than half his FG attempts?

Players have to play within their strengths, and Bradley's major strengths are defense, jumpshooting, and backdoor cuts. And without a decent pass-first PG playing alongside him for the first half of the season, obviously Bradley had to utilize his jumpshot moreso than cutting to the hoop. A lot of Celtics had to force up long 2s this season when Crawford was pounding the ball for half the shotclock on almost every play, and then forcing late passes.

And the fact that Bradley has still been able to maintain a .441 FG% while taking so many long 2s (a shot many players struggle with) shows that he is a much better shooter than people give him credit for.

elite defender and when Rondo gets back into game speed playing regular minuets, Bradley should have even better percentages.

[kg is king]

I don't understand where this "Bradley is a chucker" mentality is coming from.

Perhaps from the fact that right now he needs 14 shots to score less than 15 points per game. Or perhaps from the fact that he's taken 450+ jump shots so far this season (of 589 shots total)? Or maybe due to the fact that 380+ of these have been from 16 feet and out?

That's a chucker alright.

Well someone needs to take the shots on our offensively challenged team, right? AB is shooting 44%, it's not like that's terrible or anything.

[kozlodoev]

Or perhaps the majority of Bradley's shots are jumpshots because that is one of the strongest attributes of his game. Who cares if he takes the majority of his shots from 16ft and out, when his long-2 FG% is above average from almost every spot on the floor, with the exception of one zone. Take another look his shot chart.

Being simply "above average" with the worst shot in the game while having absolutely no other move doesn't quite cut it as efficiency in my book. If that's what his game is going to be like, he's not in good shape.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Worst shot in the game? WORST SHOT IN THE GAME?

[OwnthePaint]

For everyone ripping on Avery for not being able to close a game, I remind you that he almost single handedly won game 6 against the Knicks last year in the 4th qtr with his steals and defensive pressure after coming off double shoulder surgery. He is not a bench player and he is being really underrated and even bashed here for not being in the same class of player as Ray. They play the 2 guard position in total different ways.

[tstorey_97]

This year we have Avery Bradley the "shooting guard."

First time really, made his chops on D.

Why has Bradley become a shooter?
Beyond Jordan Crawford and Lee off the bench, no one else on the freaking team will try and make a play. Wallace refuses 70% of his shot opportunities. You tell me what Jeff Green is about. They have Sullinger teeing up threes at the end of games and Olynyk has waited until January to take his share of shots.

Someone, somewhere, somehow has to get into position and throw the ball at the basket yo. Watch the games. "After you...no after you....no,no,no after you..." Just shoot the freaking thing we're dyin' up here.

That is why Bradley is taking a lot of shots.

[Boris Badenov]

Worst shot in the game? WORST SHOT IN THE GAME?

I think he meant that a long 2 is generally speaking the worst shot on the floor, percentage-wise. It wasn't a comment about AB specifically.

[kozlodoev]

Worst shot in the game? WORST SHOT IN THE GAME?

I think he meant that a long 2 is generally speaking the worst shot on the floor, percentage-wise. It wasn't a comment about AB specifically.

This is correct.

[D.o.s.]

For everyone ripping on Avery for not being able to close a game, I remind you that he almost single handedly won game 6 against the Knicks last year in the 4th qtr with his steals and defensive pressure after coming off double shoulder surgery. He is not a bench player and he is being really underrated and even bashed here for not being in the same class of player as Ray. They play the 2 guard position in total different ways.

Avery's being underrated and bashed only insofar as the subject of this thread is laughably unfair to Ray Allen's career as a basketball player.

I'm positive that we'll all be rooting for Avery over Ray tonight... but one of them is a surefire Hall of Famer. The other is Avery Bradley.