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Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« on: January 15, 2014, 04:35:09 PM »

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Figured I'd make this a separate thread as it's somewhat lengthy and I think Lowe explains it perfectly.

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The best subplot of my day: Boston fans railing on Twitter that this is a horrible deal. Umm … it’s Jordan Crawford. Do you not think the other 29 teams watch the NBA? Do you think 29 other GMs are Googling “Jordan Crawford,” seeing his Eastern Conference Player of the Week honor, and asking their owner how many first-round picks they might give up for him? Do you think those GMs are unaware Brooks hasn’t been able to get on the floor at all this season for a very bad NBA team?

There was zero chance Boston was getting a first-round pick for Crawford and Brooks. Zero. The Bulls didn’t even get a guaranteed first-round pick for Luol Deng. The Magic didn’t get one for J.J. Redick. Teams are hoarding first-round picks like Ron Swanson hoards his buried gold. And as I’ve noted before, there just aren’t many contenders or even ambitious playoff teams with a massive need at backup point guard. Crawford’s a nice little piece, but he has been very bad for most of his NBA career, and just so-so in this career year.

This is a small bounty for Boston. The second-rounder from Miami is a nice little addition, but the real prize is the first-rounder the Sixers gave Miami two drafts ago in exchange for Arnett Moultrie.

However, this is not an automatic first-rounder, and may end up as a fake first-rounder. It’s lottery-protected in each of the next two seasons, meaning the Sixers keep it if they miss the playoffs. If they miss the postseason both this year (duh) and next, the pick morphs into two second-rounders that would go to Boston.

Never underestimate the horribleness of the Eastern Conference. The Sixers will almost certainly have two lottery picks in this draft — their own and the one they acquired from the Pelicans for Jrue Holiday. That pick is top-five protected, and given New Orleans’s injury issues, it could fall somewhere around no. 8 or no. 9. Nail those picks, get Nerlens Noel healthy, and sign the requisite cap-fodder veterans, and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Philly crawls into a low-end playoff spot next season — sending Boston a first-rounder in the process.

But Philly isn’t done trading. They’ve amped up their feelers on Thaddeus Young in the last week, per several league sources, and other execs view it as a lock that Evan Turner will be on the block — if he isn’t already. If Philly dumps enough veterans and opts against replacing them next season with equal quality, they could be pretty bad again.

But even three second-rounders is a nice haul for two players Boston wasn’t going to use long-term. Anthony’s $3.8 million deal for next season is the price, and in raw terms, that is more than the combined Year 1 salaries of three second-rounders. But Boston will have a solid chunk of cap space this summer after dumping Courtney Lee, and they could get something like max-level room if they find a taker for Brandon Bass before the trade deadline. Anthony cuts into that space a tad, but the Cs weren’t going to get that Philly pick without Miami (and Anthony) getting involved in the deal.

Using max-level cap space in a straight free-agency signing isn’t really even part of the plan here, anyway. Boston simply wants to remain flexible enough to take in salary via trade while piling up assets. This deal does the job. Teams are valuing second-round picks more highly than ever. They produce cheap players with some upside, and teams can structure their contracts in all kinds of favorable ways outside the rookie scale for first-round picks. Anthony himself will become an expiring contract this season, just another little trade ingredient for the Cs.

Losing Crawford will also make Boston worse this season, increasing their lottery odds. Rajon Rondo will be back soon to take over at point guard, but he’ll be rusty, and Boston just downgraded the backup point guard spot dramatically. Phil Pressey tries hard, but guys who shoot 24 percent and turn the ball over a lot are not exactly helpful NBA players.

This is something very much like a win-win-win, a small-scale move that could carry real meaning down the line for two contenders.
*CB Miami Heat*
Kyle Lowry, Dwayne Wade, 13th pick in even numbered rounds, 18th pick in odd numbered rounds.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 04:38:46 PM »

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Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2014, 04:44:20 PM »

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I agree with almost everything he said except the part where he said losing Crawford makes us a lot worse. While I like the short stint he had this season, I honestly feel that Crawford isn't so much of a team player. he cares too much about his stats, and is a wild/unpredictable player. He wasn't going to be in our future long term, so might as well flip him while he has value.

I like Bayless/Bradley/Rondo combo and thinks that over time, it will a great rotation. Yes, Rondo will be rusty, and yes we will lose games, but I think towards the end of the season, we will win a few games when Rondo is back on track (which I doubt will interfere with our record getting a lottery pick). Team starts to gel, but still gets bad record -> gets lottery pick

training camp comes -> we continue to improve.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2014, 04:45:52 PM »

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Thanks. Good read. This will be good information for the few who think it was a bad deal for the C's.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2014, 04:54:01 PM »

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(3) 2nd rounders?

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 04:55:24 PM »

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Even if we don't get a first rounder we get 2 early 2nd round picks those are valuable assets. We could nab good international prospects and stash them.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 05:03:19 PM »

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Zach Lowe's good, per usual. All makes sense. And the part about cap room is a good tidbit for those who put it down. You don't need to sign LeBron to have space and flexibility be valuable.
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Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 05:04:29 PM »

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Ainge is smart enough to win trades and sort it out later. It's part of what makes him successful. Crawford and Brooks had zero value and he got something for them. Bayless and Rondo are here now.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 05:09:02 PM »

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I think people are truly underestimating Crawford's role in preventing team chemistry. He is really not a player that makes others want to work harder.

I understand that Bayless is more of a streaky shooter than Crawford. However, I think players with such comparable skillsets sometimes flourish depending more on the environment than the talent they possess. I can't get a few images out of my head of Crawford overreacting to fumbled passes by Humphries and Olynyk this season. The team's decision making at the end of quarters or with the shot clock winding down should improve almost automatically with his departure.

Call me crazy, but I think we are going to be better because of this trade.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 05:10:13 PM »

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Zach Lowe's good, per usual. All makes sense. And the part about cap room is a good tidbit for those who put it down. You don't need to sign LeBron to have space and flexibility be valuable.

Yup.

One of the great things about not having a twitter account is not having to sift through the dreck (or contributing to the dreck, for that matter).

I think people are truly underestimating Crawford's role in preventing team chemistry. He is really not a player that makes others want to work harder.

I understand that Bayless is more of a streaky shooter than Crawford. However, I think players with such comparable skillsets sometimes flourish depending more on the environment than the talent they possess. I can't get a few images out of my head of Crawford overreacting to fumbled passes by Humphries and Olynyk this season. The team's decision making at the end of quarters or with the shot clock winding down should improve almost automatically with his departure.

Call me crazy, but I think we are going to be better because of this trade.

Gerald Wallace, is that you?

Also, we're about to get the king of the "exasperated overreaction to fumbled passes" back in our lineup. That will, of course, completely destroy our team chemistry... right?
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 05:12:26 PM »

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Somebody give Zack Lowe a Tommy Point!

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 05:13:17 PM »

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Zach Lowe's good, per usual. All makes sense. And the part about cap room is a good tidbit for those who put it down. You don't need to sign LeBron to have space and flexibility be valuable.

Yup.

One of the great things about not having a twitter account is not having to sift through the dreck (or contributing to the dreck, for that matter).

I think people are truly underestimating Crawford's role in preventing team chemistry. He is really not a player that makes others want to work harder.

I understand that Bayless is more of a streaky shooter than Crawford. However, I think players with such comparable skillsets sometimes flourish depending more on the environment than the talent they possess. I can't get a few images out of my head of Crawford overreacting to fumbled passes by Humphries and Olynyk this season. The team's decision making at the end of quarters or with the shot clock winding down should improve almost automatically with his departure.

Call me crazy, but I think we are going to be better because of this trade.

Gerald Wallace, is that you?

Also, we're about to get the king of the "exasperated overreaction to fumbled passes" back in our lineup. That will, of course, completely destroy our team chemistry... right?

There's a difference between irritation and showing a teammate up is all I was trying to say with that comment.

It might be the Kool Aid, but the addition through subtraction tactic might work.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 05:17:22 PM »

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Gotchya--you're probably going to be right. I think that it was smart of Ainge to move Crawford for picks with Rondo's imminent return and Bayless doing 90% of what Crawford would be doing after RR comes back anyway.


I just think team chemistry on plays like that is a hard thing to pick up on through the television--remember when everyone was convinced that Jeff Green and Brandon Bass weren't getting along?
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2014, 05:20:22 PM »

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Agreed with everything he said until the last paragraph saying we "downgraded our backup pg spot to phil pressey."

Did he forget about Bayless? Other than that minor knitpick of trade irrelevance he was spot on.

Re: Zack Lowe's take on the Crawford/Brooks trade
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2014, 05:24:51 PM »

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Agreed with everything he said until the last paragraph saying we "downgraded our backup pg spot to phil pressey."

Did he forget about Bayless? Other than that minor knitpick of trade irrelevance he was spot on.

It could be worse, he could've been the deadspin guy convinced Bradley was a point guard:
http://bengm225.kinja.com/avery-bradley-is-the-anti-rondo-1487905737
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.