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Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2013, 06:56:09 PM »

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Both are good news.

Tommy was a great player and coach, so he knows the fudamentals, plus can yell at refs at a HOF level.
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Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2013, 07:01:40 PM »

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Kelly has been somewhat disappointing so far, but I'm not giving up hope.  He's shown me enough flashes to make me think he can be a legitimate starting NBA power forward (and part time center).  I'm still in wait and see mode on the Klynyk. 
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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2013, 11:57:54 PM »

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Kelly has the moves. He just has to relax and not worry about missing. Have needs to incorp more headfakes, up and unders, drive spin and jump shot and lastly a running hook

All of these things he showed at the SL. I hope tommy helps him out

Summer League is Summer League. It really has nothing to do with the real NBA.

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2013, 12:26:27 AM »

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If you saw The teams Tommy coached back in the 70's, and compare them to the way that this team plays, you would conclude that Tommy has Stevens' ear.

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2013, 03:04:50 AM »

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Kelly has the moves. He just has to relax and not worry about missing. Have needs to incorp more headfakes, up and unders, drive spin and jump shot and lastly a running hook

All of these things he showed at the SL. I hope tommy helps him out
Summer league has more to do with the nba than Tommy Heinsohn at this point in time.

Summer League is Summer League. It really has nothing to do with the real NBA.

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2013, 04:39:40 AM »

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I wonder if Tommy will develop a supportive relationship with KO the way he apparently has with Crawford:

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/heinsohn-crawford-share-special-bond

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2013, 10:26:50 AM »

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Kelly has the moves. He just has to relax and not worry about missing. Have needs to incorp more headfakes, up and unders, drive spin and jump shot and lastly a running hook

All of these things he showed at the SL. I hope tommy helps him out

I agree that KO has the tools. Although it was just summer league, KO has a high basketball IQ and has been coached with the right fundamentals. Now it's a confidence thing. He seems to have completely lost it since hurting his ankle.

As far a projections, he will probably be a bit better than Louis Scola. Scola's best year was 18 and 8. I could live with that. :)
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Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2013, 10:46:27 AM »

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I Like KO as much as anyone. I would like TH to work on his defense.watching him I wasn't worried to much about his offense. He especially needs to work on rotations, he seems to be guarding an area instead of his man when he is forced to rotate. I'm sure TH will work on this aspect in his game.This is from college zones. IMO he is a stretch 4 in the NBA.

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2013, 11:02:56 AM »

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Kelly has been somewhat disappointing so far, but I'm not giving up hope.  He's shown me enough flashes to make me think he can be a legitimate starting NBA power forward (and part time center).  I'm still in wait and see mode on the Klynyk.

You give KO a consistent 35 to 40 mins/gm for a couple of weeks and you'll see big improvements.  Of course, this won't happen with the current roster.  So that, as they say, is that...

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2013, 12:18:38 PM »

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I agree that KO has the tools.

He is weak, he can't jump and lacks a fire.   He does have some skills.   Larry had some of the same pegs and was projected as a bust by some but he was not mentally weak.   The problem with KO is he is so soft!

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Colton_Iverson/Turkey/Besiktas_Integral_Forex_Istanbul/163435

Give me the Iverson kid anyday.  He will at least use his size and bang.

All you guys who think KO can start, I have some beachfront property on the moon, I am selling cheap, please send a PM for details.

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2013, 12:42:05 PM »

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Right now, KO is playing with no confidence. He is basically setting high screens and popping or rolling, moving the ball and rarely taking the shot when its there.  He is not developing his game.

He has to play 25+ minutes to develop. The C's need to see what he can actually do on the court so that they can plan for the future. He dominated summer league. I know that was against weak competition but everyone had the opportunity to do the same and he stepped up big time. I would like to see him gain some confidence, look for his shot, try the moves that worked in the post during summer league and and also take it to the basket.

Many players have struggled as rookies and white guys particularly look weak in my opinion. Dirk struggled pretty badly as a rookie and still is weak to this day and we see how his game turned out. ANd I'm pretty sure people weren't pointing to his killer instinct as a rookie.


Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2013, 01:16:51 PM »

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kelly is a bench player at best.

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2013, 01:24:55 AM »

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I would pay to see Tommy teaching Brad how to yell at refs :D

same here :)

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2013, 01:58:59 AM »

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Olynyk won't do well

1) without a legit pure pg
2) without having the ball in his hands
3) without a legit Center

And the celts have no 1) or 3) right now. He is also not getting many passes, especially when he gains inside position.

Once either Humprhies or Bass get traded, we should see alot more from him. Rondo will also make his life easier. He was ready to score three times tonight but either Jcraw or the other players didn't react to pass

Re: Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2013, 03:34:50 PM »

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You have to excuse Tommy when he announces games because if it was up to him the C's never foul and their opponents foul on every shot which used to annoy me but now I just laugh and have fun with it.  but besides that, the guy knows what's going on. he knows exactly when Crawford or Bradley start walking that ball up court and slowing the game down and he also picks up on when they start taking too many outside shots and are not taking it to the paint. these are two big mistakes that Boston makes on too many occasions and why teams tend to take over the momentum of the game. now you can walk the ball up the floor and shoot from the outside all day long as long as you're averaging 65 to 70% shooting but most teams don't and you're going to get yourself in a problem eventually.