Tommy Heinsohn working with Kelly on post moves at practice

[guava_wrench]

Tommy was once a very good basketball mind and still has a lot of knowledge about playing the game. The problem is that he is out of touch. He doesn't seem to try to keep up on the league and he also has a hard time keeping perspective.

Regardless of how out of touch he has allowed himself to become, he understands the skills needed to play the game. It is great that he is still interested in working with players.

[Tr1boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crWfC6Zy64U

What olynyk did today. That last pass is a beauty.

Btw ppl really harping on tommy? The guy is repeat champion. He is a homer but knows alot still

[billysan]

Tommy was once a very good basketball mind and still has a lot of knowledge about playing the game. The problem is that he is out of touch. He doesn't seem to try to keep up on the league and he also has a hard time keeping perspective.

Regardless of how out of touch he has allowed himself to become, he understands the skills needed to play the game. It is great that he is still interested in working with players.

You make a good point here. I think Tommy is losing it a little from a social standpoint. I dont think he has kept up with the NBA culture or business lately. That said, he still has a lot to offer young players in terms of fundamentals on the basketball court. This is where Olynyk is going to benefit becasue he is smart enough to absorb what Tommy is putting out there IMO.

My thing about Tommy is as someone stated earlier, he is a Celtic through and through. He is loyal to a fault to all Celtics players and staff. In Tommy's world (mind) a Celtic never commits a foul or makes a mistake, They just get bad breaks from the officials. He is like your grandparents, he loves you unconditionally and no matter what you do. He will not tolerate anyone speaking against his beloved Celtics.

[mmmmm]

I find the idea that some random internet bloggers think they are more 'in touch' with the NBA and other teams than a guy who has spent his whole life immersed in the NBA, winning multiple championships as both a player and a coach, and who continues to sit court side at 40+ games every year and who is on a personal, speaking relationship with just about every visiting player and coach who comes into the Garden ... ludicrous.

[Celtics4ever]

You make a good point here. I think Tommy is losing it a little from a social standpoint. I dont think he has kept up with the NBA culture or business lately. That said, he still has a lot to offer young players in terms of fundamentals on the basketball court. This is where Olynyk is going to benefit becasue he is smart enough to absorb what Tommy is putting out there IMO.

He has forgot more about nasketball than you ever knew...

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I find the idea that some random internet bloggers think they are more 'in touch' with the NBA and other teams than a guy who has spent his whole life immersed in the NBA, winning multiple championships as both a player and a coach, and who continues to sit court side at 40+ games every year and who is on a personal, speaking relationship with just about every visiting player and coach who comes into the Garden ... ludicrous.

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[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

You make a good point here. I think Tommy is losing it a little from a social standpoint. I dont think he has kept up with the NBA culture or business lately. That said, he still has a lot to offer young players in terms of fundamentals on the basketball court. This is where Olynyk is going to benefit becasue he is smart enough to absorb what Tommy is putting out there IMO.

He has forgot more about nasketball than you ever knew...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crWfC6Zy64U

What olynyk did today. That last pass is a beauty.

Btw ppl really harping on tommy? The guy is repeat champion. He is a homer but knows alot still

A few nice finishes, jumpers, and passes.  No post moves though?

[pokeKingCurtis]

I find the idea that some random internet bloggers think they are more 'in touch' with the NBA and other teams than a guy who has spent his whole life immersed in the NBA, winning multiple championships as both a player and a coach, and who continues to sit court side at 40+ games every year and who is on a personal, speaking relationship with just about every visiting player and coach who comes into the Garden ... ludicrous.

Some think they have the inside scoop to Ainge's brain too.

Thanks a lot, ESPN. Crappy sports writing is making everyone insanely dogmatic.

[SHAQATTACK]

Besides playing slightly hurt ,   Kelly lost his confidence or feel for the flow of the game.

I think he'll get back into swing of things ......or climb out of his funk.

I think he will Reestablish his college honed skill set  ....in time ......


Learning  to,play the NBA post is an knew deal for Kelly.    Sully came trained to play in the paint.

It's going to take a couple years for Kelly to become familiar with all the NBA  tricks ,  I think he is learning to stay out of foul trouble a little better now........it will take time .......but I think he will  very scorer in the paint ,  smart quick moves .

[pokeKingCurtis]

I had forgotten about the fact that Kelly is Canadian.

This dude...has baby fat. Zero vert. A mane of hair... the face ...of ...Cupid. Thick calves of a hiker...which probably hinders his vertical even more.

At least Dirk is wiry and long, got that high release.

This guy has a short wingspan...

It's all in the head with this one. I love it.

[Celtics4ever]

I thought he had a good game yesterday aside from the paltry rebounds but he shot well.

[billysan]

You make a good point here. I think Tommy is losing it a little from a social standpoint. I dont think he has kept up with the NBA culture or business lately. That said, he still has a lot to offer young players in terms of fundamentals on the basketball court. This is where Olynyk is going to benefit becasue he is smart enough to absorb what Tommy is putting out there IMO.

He has forgot more about nasketball than you ever knew...

Exactly my point, so how can anyone make the statement that Tommy cant evaluate or comment accurately on an opposing player after having seen them play only a couple of times? How does anyone know with certainty how many times Tommy has seen a player play?

He has forgotten more about basketball than any many ever knew....

[chambers]

You have to excuse Tommy when he announces games because if it was up to him the C's never foul and their opponents foul on every shot which used to annoy me but now I just laugh and have fun with it.  but besides that, the guy knows what's going on. he knows exactly when Crawford or Bradley start walking that ball up court and slowing the game down and he also picks up on when they start taking too many outside shots and are not taking it to the paint. these are two big mistakes that Boston makes on too many occasions and why teams tend to take over the momentum of the game. now you can walk the ball up the floor and shoot from the outside all day long as long as you're averaging 65 to 70% shooting but most teams don't and you're going to get yourself in a problem eventually.

I'm glad someone mentioned this because it infuriates me even as a Celtics fan to hear him call games where the Celtics is ALWAYS the victim in fouls called or isn't

I always get hammered when I post this, but Tommy is an embarrassment as a color commentator and should have been put out to pasture several years ago. I give Gorman tons of credit for putting up with Tommy's ridiculous homerism.

I'm one of the few who agree with you.  Plus he knows nothing about the current NBA.  He doesn't know anything about players on other teams and he can't even pronounce half of their names(which doesn't really bother me).

Wow.  Just wow.

pretty pathetic eh?

I actually find him incredibly annoying too. He's improved slightly over the years and turned his genuine homerism into somewhat of a novelty.
He does have some good analysis but he has a far greater amount of mistakes in his analysis than most former player/coach broadcasters.
All I can say is thank god he's not our current coach. It's not his fault, it's just that the game has changed so much since his time and like many old timers he can't accept change abd is stuck in his ways.
I love Gorman though and they do make a good pair.

[vjcsmoke]

Good on Brad.

Doc would have been better off if he'd been willing to soak up as much Tommy knowledge as Brad has reportedly been eager to absorb.

Doc was a good coach at maximizing his players, but he was rigid in his rotations, stuck with favorites, and didn't play rookies.

There's a reason we made a move to Stevens for a team that is rebuilding.