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Re: Can we clarify the Pierce trade exception?
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 03:54:05 PM »

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So we have a year to use it... but the salary we take back has to be less than 10 mil, right?  So... completely random examples:

Trade exception + many picks for Paul Millisap (8 mil).  That works, right?

But

Trade exception + many picks for Al Horford (12 mil) ... that doesn't work, right?

Yes.  There is nothing like 125/150%+100K margin for matching salary.  It is an exact number that you cannot go over.

Thread has been very helpful as I really didn't understand much about how the TE can be used. 

But just so I am clear, the key for the C's to actually make use of the TE will be to somehow clear enough salary under the luxury cap threshold to be able to take back comparable salary in a trade (using the TE).

Am I correct that the C's, at present, have no wiggle room because they are at the luxury threshold and do not want to exceed?

Am I correct that in the hypothetical that the C's were willing to exceed the luxury cap threshold they are allowed do so using the TE in a trade? 


Re: Can we clarify the Pierce trade exception?
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 05:10:50 PM »

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So we have a year to use it... but the salary we take back has to be less than 10 mil, right?  So... completely random examples:

Trade exception + many picks for Paul Millisap (8 mil).  That works, right?

But

Trade exception + many picks for Al Horford (12 mil) ... that doesn't work, right?

Yes.  There is nothing like 125/150%+100K margin for matching salary.  It is an exact number that you cannot go over.

Thread has been very helpful as I really didn't understand much about how the TE can be used. 

But just so I am clear, the key for the C's to actually make use of the TE will be to somehow clear enough salary under the luxury cap threshold to be able to take back comparable salary in a trade (using the TE).

Am I correct that the C's, at present, have no wiggle room because they are at the luxury threshold and do not want to exceed?

Am I correct that in the hypothetical that the C's were willing to exceed the luxury cap threshold they are allowed do so using the TE in a trade?

The Celtics are under a hard cap this season, because we used the non-tax payers MLE (when we signed Faverani). But we can go above the "apron" (4M $ above the tax line).

The big problem is the repeater's tax, which we will be subject to, and which will limit Ainge's options a great deal moving forward.
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Re: Can we clarify the Pierce trade exception?
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2013, 05:41:46 PM »

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So we have a year to use it... but the salary we take back has to be less than 10 mil, right?  So... completely random examples:

Trade exception + many picks for Paul Millisap (8 mil).  That works, right?

But

Trade exception + many picks for Al Horford (12 mil) ... that doesn't work, right?

Yes.  There is nothing like 125/150%+100K margin for matching salary.  It is an exact number that you cannot go over.

Thread has been very helpful as I really didn't understand much about how the TE can be used. 

But just so I am clear, the key for the C's to actually make use of the TE will be to somehow clear enough salary under the luxury cap threshold to be able to take back comparable salary in a trade (using the TE).

Am I correct that the C's, at present, have no wiggle room because they are at the luxury threshold and do not want to exceed?

Am I correct that in the hypothetical that the C's were willing to exceed the luxury cap threshold they are allowed do so using the TE in a trade?
Pretty much yes. I think there's a small window to use the TE after Bogans and Humphries are of the books and before it expires.
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Re: Can we clarify the Pierce trade exception?
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2013, 07:21:31 PM »

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Now that I'm lost more than ever.....

Wonder how DA plans on using this 10.3 said asset before the time limit runs out.

Re: Can we clarify the Pierce trade exception?
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2013, 07:53:13 PM »

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Now that I'm lost more than ever.....

Wonder how DA plans on using this 10.3 said asset before the time limit runs out.

If the roster ends up looking worse than it does now, possibly accepting a bad contract and being compensated with picks from a team looking to create cap space.  If the roster ends up looking good, possibly a sign-and-trade with the Celtics sending a pick or two to the other team.
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Re: Can we clarify the Pierce trade exception?
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2013, 09:36:15 PM »

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What about combing multiple trade exceptions?

If a team has 2 (TE) can they be used together on one player?
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Re: Can we clarify the Pierce trade exception?
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 10:09:06 PM »

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What about combing multiple trade exceptions?

If a team has 2 (TE) can they be used together on one player?

No.
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