If the Asik trade happens, are "basically" rebuilt?

[kozlodoev]

I don't get this attachment to Bradley. He's a mediocre offensive player and his "elite" defense on e again failed to stop the opponents best guard in crunch time last night when Jennings torched him. He's a good hustle player and pressures the ball well, that's about it. He's not a legit starter or even 6h man on a contender.

Agreed entirely. He is not a starter at the 2 on a championship contender and is another of Ainge's chronically overrated draft picks on this board - sort of the Perkins of the 2.

I would easily envision making him available - especially given his prospective contract numbers - in any deal for a reliable scorer at the 2.

Jennings "torched" Bradley in crunch time? I must have watched a different game, then. You know, one in which Bradley kept us in the game by playing tough defense and forcing bad Jennings jumpers in the last couple of minutes.

[Fafnir]

Yeah Jennings was 9-21. He hit a bunch of 3s but he wasn't torching Bradley. In crunch time we got them to have Josh Smith and Jennings take long jump shots, sadly Smith hit 2 and Jennings hit that big 3.

[BballTim]

I don't get this attachment to Bradley. He's a mediocre offensive player and his "elite" defense on e again failed to stop the opponents best guard in crunch time last night when Jennings torched him. He's a good hustle player and pressures the ball well, that's about it. He's not a legit starter or even 6h man on a contender.

Agreed entirely. He is not a starter at the 2 on a championship contender and is another of Ainge's chronically overrated draft picks on this board - sort of the Perkins of the 2.

I would easily envision making him available - especially given his prospective contract numbers - in any deal for a reliable scorer at the 2.

Jennings "torched" Bradley in crunch time? I must have watched a different game, then. You know, one in which Bradley kept us in the game by playing tough defense and forcing bad Jennings jumpers in the last couple of minutes.

  Yes, I'd guess most people here would be happy with opposing teams taking contested threes late in the shot clock. They went in last night but those are the breaks.

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I'd say the trade would elevate us to "tough out" status in the playoffs.

So far as Bradley goes, he's an MLE guy in my book, and no more.  A pesky defender, but not especially strong, was bullied by Felton in the playoffs.  Valuable pressure D as mentioned, valuable role player = MLE guy to me, and I wouldn't commit to more than 3 years with his health history, either.

Looking at the rest of the roster, I'd rather have a scorer at the 2 than a pesky defender; it might put us pretty close to competitive if we keep the Green/Sully/Asik front line.

I'd say we're essentially rebuilt in the sense that the positions are covered, pieces look like they'll work together, and we need to look toward internal development (Sully, KO, VITOR!, Crawford?) plus one guy that can make something good happen on his own/bailout guy, and SG seems to be the spot with A) biggest margin for improvement, and B) generally not that hard to fill.

Danny's pretty good, eh?

Oh, and we have Crawford and Brooks as in-house scoring SG candidates as fill-ins this season while waiting for the right deal/situation to come around.

He's really good.

[kozlodoev]

I don't get this attachment to Bradley. He's a mediocre offensive player and his "elite" defense on e again failed to stop the opponents best guard in crunch time last night when Jennings torched him. He's a good hustle player and pressures the ball well, that's about it. He's not a legit starter or even 6h man on a contender.

Agreed entirely. He is not a starter at the 2 on a championship contender and is another of Ainge's chronically overrated draft picks on this board - sort of the Perkins of the 2.

I would easily envision making him available - especially given his prospective contract numbers - in any deal for a reliable scorer at the 2.

Jennings "torched" Bradley in crunch time? I must have watched a different game, then. You know, one in which Bradley kept us in the game by playing tough defense and forcing bad Jennings jumpers in the last couple of minutes.

  Yes, I'd guess most people here would be happy with opposing teams taking contested threes late in the shot clock. They went in last night but those are the breaks.

There's no denying Jennings did some damage early on yesterday, but Bradley played him near perfect in crunch time. His defense was a big reason why we had a chance to win this one at the buzzer.

[ScoobyDoo]

Per the title of the Post, if we do the Asik trade I do think we are "basically" rebuilt.

Asik / Faverani / Iverson (Good mix)
Sully / Olynyk / Draft Pick
Green / Mid level (
Bradley / Draft Pick / Brooks
Rondo / Crawford / Pressey

Great defensive and rebounding team, but need more scoring, so a couple options I see here:

Two options I see here:
 
1. Sign and/or draft guys who can light it up at the off guard and small forward spots to back up Green and Bradley
 
2. Sign a max level free agent at small forward or off guard this summer or next.

3. Package some young players for that top line scorer.

So for me when I mention "basically" rebuilt if we do the Asik trade, I'm thinking we're 1-2 moves away from becoming a legit contender and we have a very nice combination of draft picks, young chips and cap flex to make those things happen.

As far as Rondo and Asik versus Bass and Lee, I'm not that worried about that. Perkins and Rondo worked out well, and Asik is at least better offensively than Perkins. 

I also think we have a lot of guys who can put the ball in the basket.

Faverani, Sully, Olynyk, Green, Crawford, Bradley and Rondo. We might not have that dominant scorer yet but we have a lot of guys who are pretty good scorers so if you add a couple guys at the 2/3 spots who can light it up off the bench, I think we'd be very effective.

Come crunch time, I'd be very that the collective IQ's of Rondo, Sully, Olynyk, Bradley and Green, combined with the offensive creativity of Crawford, could figure out a way to get a basket when we need it.

This would be more of a San Antonio model that is very successful without having a dominant player in their prime.

All that being said, Sully is quietly becoming somewhat of a go to guy. You can see he'd like to "be that guy" and as he continues to develop and continues to improve his ability to get his shot off, which he is doing by leaps and bounds, the combination of his inside outside game, along with his free throw shooting, could potentially make him that go to guy. 

[RJ87]

We'd need more consistent scoring - I wouldn't be surprised to see us linked to guys like Evan Turner and Demar Derozan. Not saying a deal is likely for either though. But, an Avery -Turner swap could make sense for both sides (a Carter-Williams/Bradley backcourt is intriguing).

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Per the title of the Post, if we do the Asik trade I do think we are "basically" rebuilt.

Asik / Faverani / Iverson (Good mix)
Sully / Olynyk / Draft Pick
Green / Mid level (
Bradley / Draft Pick / Brooks
Rondo / Crawford / Pressey

Great defensive and rebounding team, but need more scoring, so a couple options I see here:

Two options I see here:
 
1. Sign and/or draft guys who can light it up at the off guard and small forward spots to back up Green and Bradley
 
2. Sign a max level free agent at small forward or off guard this summer or next.

3. Package some young players for that top line scorer.

So for me when I mention "basically" rebuilt if we do the Asik trade, I'm thinking we're 1-2 moves away from becoming a legit contender and we have a very nice combination of draft picks, young chips and cap flex to make those things happen.

As far as Rondo and Asik versus Bass and Lee, I'm not that worried about that. Perkins and Rondo worked out well, and Asik is at least better offensively than Perkins. 

I also think we have a lot of guys who can put the ball in the basket.

Faverani, Sully, Olynyk, Green, Crawford, Bradley and Rondo. We might not have that dominant scorer yet but we have a lot of guys who are pretty good scorers so if you add a couple guys at the 2/3 spots who can light it up off the bench, I think we'd be very effective.

Come crunch time, I'd be very that the collective IQ's of Rondo, Sully, Olynyk, Bradley and Green, combined with the offensive creativity of Crawford, could figure out a way to get a basket when we need it.

This would be more of a San Antonio model that is very successful without having a dominant player in their prime.

All that being said, Sully is quietly becoming somewhat of a go to guy. You can see he'd like to "be that guy" and as he continues to develop and continues to improve his ability to get his shot off, which he is doing by leaps and bounds, the combination of his inside outside game, along with his free throw shooting, could potentially make him that go to guy.

On Sully being go-to:  Probably not.  I don't like the odds if he's collapsed on inside with the shot/game clock low, and I don't think he can initiate anywhere else.  He's the guy the ball gets kicked to that can finish the play, though.

Ditto, it seems, for Green.

With the current group, it would have to be either Rondo or Crawford with the ball.

[Moranis]

I think Boston should look at moving Green to Cleveland for Waiters and Bennett.  Waiters would add a much more consistent scorer to the team and Bennett provides some potential and another potential asset.  I think that team on the whole would be better than the current one.

So the team would be

PG - Rondo, Crawford
SG - Waiters, Bradley
SF - Wallace, Bennett
PF - Sullinger, Olynyk, Humphries
C - Asik, Faverani

To me that team is a bit better balanced and a bit better than the one with Green.  You would then look to the draft for an upgrade at SF or hope Bennett actually develops.

[ScoobyDoo]

Per someone else's post, what a great job by Danny so far.

Even if we don't do the Asik trade, we have options, options, options - to make the moves we need to make to continue to upgrade the team.

if we do the Asik trade, we become one of the biggest, toughest teams in the league with some real athleticism as well.

Asik / Faverani / Iverson
Sully / Olynyk / Humpries (for now)

Green, Bradley, Crawford, Rondo, Wallace (for now)

If we can add the right combination at the 2/3 spots - we will be "there". 

[ScoobyDoo]

Can Bennet play small forward?

[Fafnir]

I think Boston should look at moving Green to Cleveland for Waiters and Bennett.  Waiters would add a much more consistent scorer to the team and Bennett provides some potential and another potential asset.  I think that team on the whole would be better than the current one.

So the team would be

PG - Rondo, Crawford
SG - Waiters, Bradley
SF - Wallace, Bennett
PF - Sullinger, Olynyk, Humphries
C - Asik, Faverani

To me that team is a bit better balanced and a bit better than the one with Green.  You would then look to the draft for an upgrade at SF or hope Bennett actually develops.

I'm not sure what you see in Waiters/Bennett. They certainly don't make the team better now.

[Fafnir]

Can Bennet play small forward?

Not at his current weight certainly. I really doubt he can long term either.

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Per someone else's post, what a great job by Danny so far.

Even if we don't do the Asik trade, we have options, options, options - to make the moves we need to make to continue to upgrade the team.

if we do the Asik trade, we become one of the biggest, toughest teams in the league with some real athleticism as well.

Asik / Faverani / Iverson
Sully / Olynyk / Humpries (for now)

Green, Bradley, Crawford, Rondo, Wallace (for now)

If we can add the right combination at the 2/3 spots - we will be "there".

I'm willing to say that we're pretty set at the 3 as well.  The Green/Wallace combo is pretty solid, and matches up well defensively in a position that includes the best players in the league - and they both embrace that role.

And if Rondo/Crawford stays together at PG...

...there isn't much left to sort out, and a clear target to fill the Assassin SG Scorer role.

 

[Celtics4ever]

I think Boston should look at moving Green to Cleveland for Waiters and Bennett. 

Your kidding right? Bennett sucks.