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Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2013, 07:04:35 PM »

Offline pokeKingCurtis

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NO lotto pick, bad record, but not bad enough.  Stuck in NO MAN's LAND.  Nightmare.  Someone tell me this isn't the scenario.  But it sure looks like it.

The Celtics are not stuck in no man's land.  They have a lot of young players with upside and a ton of draft picks.  Being stuck on what has been called the treadmill of mediocrity means you are a middle team that is locked into a core that is unlikely to improve yet hard to trade, with no cap flexibility to sign a free agent.

If the Celtics are a middle-of-the-pack team this season, there is no reason to believe that guarantees the team will be in the same range next season because Ainge has the flexibility to make many different moves.

Right.

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Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2013, 07:08:43 PM »

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NO lotto pick, bad record, but not bad enough.  Stuck in NO MAN's LAND.  Nightmare.  Someone tell me this isn't the scenario.  But it sure looks like it.

The Celtics are not stuck in no man's land.  They have a lot of young players with upside and a ton of draft picks.  Being stuck on what has been called the treadmill of mediocrity means you are a middle team that is locked into a core that is unlikely to improve yet hard to trade, with no cap flexibility to sign a free agent.

If the Celtics are a middle-of-the-pack team this season, there is no reason to believe that guarantees the team will be in the same range next season because Ainge has the flexibility to make many different moves.

Right.

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Not scarcasm, agreement.

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Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2013, 12:15:59 PM »

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There is still lots of basketball to be played. Those New York teams could find their form and I think they will be battling for the Atlantic Division title come March and April.

Our team could accumulate injuries and diminish our capacity.

Danny Ainge could engineer another block buster deal to set a different path for us.

Or the team can continue to grow and build a winning culture and in two seasons compete with Indiana and Miami.
The beatings will continue until morale improves

Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2013, 12:26:48 PM »

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Eventually the Celtics are going to have to get a quality 6 '11" -7' NBA center..

It's been so long since we had a decent young center to build a team around , it's seems like dream .
Old worn out players, has Beens ,  bad draft picks .......

Sometime ....it would seems a good big man to build around would have to drop to the Celtics


See how sucky the Lakers are with out DH

It's a bad place to,be with out a young talented Center ........they are tradeee here and there  but never to  Celtics ......at some point DA is going to have to let go the purse strings and pay for a BiG man to play the paint ..... They just command a height price .....had to pay to,play in the NBA ....signing a bunch of midgets is n ot going to work.

dump the trash

Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2013, 01:11:28 PM »

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Eventually the Celtics are going to have to get a quality 6 '11" -7' NBA center.. in the NBA ....signing a bunch of midgets is n ot going to work.

Agree with that the Celtics need a real center.  But how are they going to get one?  Not in the draft.  Looks like we are going to finish just out of the lottery the way things are going right now.

Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2013, 01:22:03 PM »

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Eventually the Celtics are going to have to get a quality 6 '11" -7' NBA center.. in the NBA ....signing a bunch of midgets is n ot going to work.

Agree with that the Celtics need a real center.  But how are they going to get one?  Not in the draft.  Looks like we are going to finish just out of the lottery the way things are going right now.

I guess it's by $10M TPE or trade, then?

We have so much to work with...

Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2013, 01:34:44 PM »

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Eventually the Celtics are going to have to get a quality 6 '11" -7' NBA center..

It's been so long since we had a decent young center to build a team around , it's seems like dream .
Old worn out players, has Beens ,  bad draft picks .......

Sometime ....it would seems a good big man to build around would have to drop to the Celtics


See how sucky the Lakers are with out DH

It's a bad place to,be with out a young talented Center ........they are tradeee here and there  but never to  Celtics ......at some point DA is going to have to let go the purse strings and pay for a BiG man to play the paint ..... They just command a height price .....had to pay to,play in the NBA ....signing a bunch of midgets is n ot going to work.

dump the trash

TP. Agree 100%. Perk was a good fit because his defense was great and he was surrounded by great offensive players and didn't need to score. But since the failed Shaq/Perk/JO triumvirate, we've been in desperate need of a quality center. Yeah, KG played center, but he played like a power forward. We need the interior presence of Sully in a 7-foot, shotblocking body.
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Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2013, 03:58:02 PM »

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C's aren't screwed if they win the division but it's not as helpful as getting a prime pick in this draft.  the positives to take away if that happens are:
- Playoff experience for the young players.  never a bad thing.
- teams that went into 'extreme-suck' mode this year for a high pick are likely to have better years next year.  C's with a couple of middle-round picks will be about the same and probably fall into the lottery.  The 2015 draft isn't has hyped as this one but it's projected to have more quality big men and probably (reasonable speculation here) some very good players that don't commit to this draft in the hopes that they go much higher next year.  In short, if you're a really talented frosh/soph that would be projected in the teens this draft, why not wait a year, improve your game and jump 10 slots in the next draft due to your own improved talent and less-elite talent in the next draft.  Still could be a positive outcome for the C's.

Re: Are we too Good to be Bad but too Bad to get anywhere?
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2013, 03:58:34 PM »

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Eventually the Celtics are going to have to get a quality 6 '11" -7' NBA center.. in the NBA ....signing a bunch of midgets is n ot going to work.

Agree with that the Celtics need a real center.  But how are they going to get one?  Not in the draft.  Looks like we are going to finish just out of the lottery the way things are going right now.

I haven't taken a personal look at the prospects for the 2015 class, but from what I've heard that draft has a lot of high potential big man prospects in it. So that could be a route to getting a legit big, because there aren't many out on the market.
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