Celtics interested in Amare

[ssspence]

The right deal should be Wallace + Bass + Bogans for Stat.

Why? You think Humphries is going to bring us something back from another team?

Bass could return one decent young prospect. Why waste that in this deal?

[Mr October]

Unless a pick or nice prospect were coming back, I'd stay away from Amare's contract.

At least Bass, Green and Wallace can get on the court and produce. Hopefully next year the Celtics will be running and gunning with a fresh Rondo, a nice young rookie, the further developed young guys, perhaps a free agent shooter and the current cast of 4th-8th men.

[Endless Paradise]

People cite "flexibility" as the prime reason for taking on Amare's gargantuan non-insurable deal.

How easy do people really think it will be to move a $23 million dollar expiring contract next season?

Doesn't matter if we move it or not. 

I'd take 20 million in dead-weight on the books next year if it means we don't still have 10 million in dead-weight on the team 3 seasons from now.

That $10 million will be expiring at that point and presumably much more valuable for inclusion in trades than Amare's salary dump contract.  Realistically speaking, trading Amare away isn't an option if the Celtics acquire him; they will hold him and his $23 million contract until it expires.  Wallace will be older and likely even more regressed, but he'll still be much more easily moved for further assets.

This makes no sense. Teams with cap space don't need expiring contracts to do deals -- they can take back whatever they care to under the cap.

It's shocking to me how few csbloggers get the cap.

... what are you talking about?  I never said anything about trading him to a team with cap space.

Amare's deal is a year shorter. So when it expires, they won't have to the burden of Wallace's 'valuable' deal -- they'll just have the respective cap space.

I get that.  My point is if the Celtics decide to trade someone away, they'll have a far easier time trading away Wallace's contract than Amare's.  I'm not sure what that has to do with what you're saying.

[BleedGreen1989]

People cite "flexibility" as the prime reason for taking on Amare's gargantuan non-insurable deal.

How easy do people really think it will be to move a $23 million dollar expiring contract next season?

Doesn't matter if we move it or not. 

I'd take 20 million in dead-weight on the books next year if it means we don't still have 10 million in dead-weight on the team 3 seasons from now.

That $10 million will be expiring at that point and presumably much more valuable for inclusion in trades than Amare's salary dump contract.  Realistically speaking, trading Amare away isn't an option if the Celtics acquire him; they will hold him and his $23 million contract until it expires.  Wallace will be older and likely even more regressed, but he'll still be much more easily moved for further assets.

This makes no sense. Teams with cap space don't need expiring contracts to do deals -- they can take back whatever they care to under the cap.

It's shocking to me how few csbloggers get the cap.

... what are you talking about?  I never said anything about trading him to a team with cap space.

Amare's deal is a year shorter. So when it expires, they won't have to the burden of Wallace's 'valuable' deal -- they'll just have the respective cap space.

I get that.  My point is if the Celtics decide to trade someone away, they'll have a far easier time trading away Wallace's contract than Amare's.  I'm not sure what that has to do with what you're saying.

I the third year of Wallace's contract they won't need to trade Amare, because his contract will not exist.

Maybe I'm not understanding your point but it seems pretty simple.

[WeMadeIt17]

Would love if we could get Shumpert from the Knicks. Kid can play and is a bigger version of AB. That then makes AB expandable. Please get this done.

[BleedGreen1989]

Would love if we could get Shumpert from the Knicks. Kid can play and is a bigger version of AB. That then makes AB expandable. Please get this done.

I highly highly doubt Shump would even be involved.

NY is holding on to him for a bigger fish.

[beklog]

I'm ok with the trade as long as it's not ROndo, Sully, KO and Fav...

I'm probablly not looking forward for Amare's defense though

[D.o.s.]

Would love if we could get Shumpert from the Knicks. Kid can play and is a bigger version of AB. That then makes AB expandable. Please get this done.

I highly highly doubt Shump would even be involved.

NY is holding on to him for a bigger fish.

Like Kenneth Faried?

[Mr October]

I'm ok with the trade as long as it's not ROndo, Sully, KO and Fav...

I'm probablly not looking forward for Amare's defense though

TP. Wow that is some stunning defense.

[sofutomygaha]

Would love if we could get Shumpert from the Knicks. Kid can play and is a bigger version of AB. That then makes AB expandable. Please get this done.

I highly highly doubt Shump would even be involved.

NY is holding on to him for a bigger fish.

If the deal was only Amare for Hump and Crash, we'd be doing them a favor. I wouldn't be mad, but it seems like a very neutral outcome. We'll manage to move Humphries one way or another.

So I'm hoping that the Knicks are putting something else in there to make it worth the while. For example, including Lee and Shumpert as originally discussed.

[BleedGreen1989]

Would love if we could get Shumpert from the Knicks. Kid can play and is a bigger version of AB. That then makes AB expandable. Please get this done.

I highly highly doubt Shump would even be involved.

NY is holding on to him for a bigger fish.

Like Kenneth Faried?

Well Manimal is certainly a bigger fish than Wallace or Hump lol

[D.o.s.]

Would love if we could get Shumpert from the Knicks. Kid can play and is a bigger version of AB. That then makes AB expandable. Please get this done.

I highly highly doubt Shump would even be involved.

NY is holding on to him for a bigger fish.

Like Kenneth Faried?

Well Manimal is certainly a bigger fish than Wallace or Hump lol

Maybe. I think he's a great one-dimensional player who's a great rookie deal guy.

I'm not sure he'll be worth the contract he gets.

[Endless Paradise]

People cite "flexibility" as the prime reason for taking on Amare's gargantuan non-insurable deal.

How easy do people really think it will be to move a $23 million dollar expiring contract next season?

Doesn't matter if we move it or not. 

I'd take 20 million in dead-weight on the books next year if it means we don't still have 10 million in dead-weight on the team 3 seasons from now.

That $10 million will be expiring at that point and presumably much more valuable for inclusion in trades than Amare's salary dump contract.  Realistically speaking, trading Amare away isn't an option if the Celtics acquire him; they will hold him and his $23 million contract until it expires.  Wallace will be older and likely even more regressed, but he'll still be much more easily moved for further assets.

This makes no sense. Teams with cap space don't need expiring contracts to do deals -- they can take back whatever they care to under the cap.

It's shocking to me how few csbloggers get the cap.

... what are you talking about?  I never said anything about trading him to a team with cap space.

Amare's deal is a year shorter. So when it expires, they won't have to the burden of Wallace's 'valuable' deal -- they'll just have the respective cap space.

I get that.  My point is if the Celtics decide to trade someone away, they'll have a far easier time trading away Wallace's contract than Amare's.  I'm not sure what that has to do with what you're saying.

I the third year of Wallace's contract they won't need to trade Amare, because his contract will not exist.

Maybe I'm not understanding your point but it seems pretty simple.

I was responding specifically to a point about how Amare's contract could be used for a trade.  Whether or not Amare's contract will exist in the last year of Wallace's is independent of that.

[ManUp]

I'm ok with the trade as long as it's not ROndo, Sully, KO and Fav...

I'm probablly not looking forward for Amare's defense though

TP. Wow that is some stunning defense.

Assuming he thought that it was a shot, you can see why he's never been a great rebounder.

[Snakehead]

... I actually want to do this.  Make the pain quick!! DO IT!!