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Re: Parker and Randle studs. Wiggins Meh.
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2013, 11:29:11 AM »

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« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2013, 11:33:39 AM »

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I think the above list pretty much covers it, and there is a list of other SF's I would rather have....Gay, Barnes etc...and that doesn't count the year that Evan Turner is putting together.  Like I said, Jeff Green is a very average NBA player who is very inconsistent...

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« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2013, 11:38:07 AM »

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Arbitrary that melo, leonard and smith are better. Smith really?

-Leonard is a super role player. He cant create his own shots.

- melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs. Poor shot selection and worse defender

- smith , poor shot selection. Poor shooter

Green can also jack up shots , shoot at 41 fg per and score 25 pts. But he doesnt. So that makes him worse? Greens problem has been consistentcy and being the third scoring option. This year he has his chance. He is off to a good start

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« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2013, 11:44:23 AM »

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Jabari Parker has since his ESPN profile struck me as the 'you over-thought that' pick of the draft.

If he's taken anywhere after 3, someone over-thought that. Like Andre Drummond, or Brandon Roy.

I don't think Roy was overthought. He slipped because of injury concerns, and ended up only playing a part of a max extension.

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« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2013, 11:46:24 AM »

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Arbitrary that melo, leonard and smith are better. Smith really?

-Leonard is a super role player. He cant create his own shots.

- melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs. Poor shot selection and worse defender

- smith , poor shot selection. Poor shooter

Green can also jack up shots , shoot at 41 fg per and score 25 pts. But he doesnt. So that makes him worse? Greens problem has been consistentcy and being the third scoring option. This year he has his chance. He is off to a good start

No, what makes Jeff Green lower on the list is that he's worse at basketball.

-You clearly don't watch enough Spurs games if you think Leonard can't create his own shot.

-If Melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs (but has still been in the playoffs every year), how does Jeff Green fair under the same criticism: since he's the best player (for now) on a team that's liable to miss the playoffs?

-Josh Smith is miles ahead of Jeff Green on the defensive end of the basketball. His problem is that he's in love with his jump shot.
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« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2013, 11:49:49 AM »

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Parker was very impressive, he is very polished, I wonder how much better he will actually get from now until he is a finished product?? I feel like Wiggins and Randle have a much higher upside because of their elite athleticism but with that said if the C's got their hands on Parker I would be real fired up because I think he is a winning player...

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« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2013, 11:54:00 AM »

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Arbitrary that melo, leonard and smith are better. Smith really?

-Leonard is a super role player. He cant create his own shots.

- melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs. Poor shot selection and worse defender

- smith , poor shot selection. Poor shooter

Green can also jack up shots , shoot at 41 fg per and score 25 pts. But he doesnt. So that makes him worse? Greens problem has been consistentcy and being the third scoring option. This year he has his chance. He is off to a good start

No, what makes Jeff Green lower on the list is that he's worse at basketball.

-You clearly don't watch enough Spurs games if you think Leonard can't create his own shot.

-If Melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs (but has still been in the playoffs every year), how does Jeff Green fair under the same criticism: since he's the best player (for now) on a team that's liable to miss the playoffs?

-Josh Smith is miles ahead of Jeff Green on the defensive end of the basketball. His problem is that he's in love with his jump shot.

You really think if we had either leonard, melo or smith vs green that our team would be any better now??

Btw u keep thinking we will miss the playoffs or tank bc we are not. Sorry to disappoint u man

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« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2013, 11:55:58 AM »

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Jeff Green is NOT a top 6 SF, sorry!  That is a Green Teamer remark if I ever saw one.  I don't want to go back and forth on this all day.  Wiggins is twice the prospect that Green ever was!  He is 8 or 9 years younger!  Did you watch the game last night?  He was very, very, very good!  22/10 against a top 5 team.  He iced the game with a jumper and a dunk.  He has a chance to be an elite defender.  Andrew Wiggins is perennial NBA All-Star with a chance to be the best player in the NBA ( once Lebron leaves ) if he reaches his ceiling....Jeff Green is an average NBA player, that's it.....

Ok name me the top 6-7 then

No ordinary nba player can dream to score 43 btw.

Green can be unstoppable. If ppl have forgotten already. And if he is not can still quietly score 17, 5,5 2 block shots. Very good defender also


Stackhouse, Shareef abdur rahim, Antawn jamison, jamal mashburn, jamal crawford, rashard lewis all scored over 50 in one game.

I can't even find a list to include scorers of 40+ in one game because it happens too much. And yes, some absolute duds score 40+ in one game; it does not make or break a player.

Jeff Green is decidedly "solid." You NEVER skip over a potential All-NBA talent at a position because that position is held by someone "solid."

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« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2013, 11:57:36 AM »

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Arbitrary that melo, leonard and smith are better. Smith really?

-Leonard is a super role player. He cant create his own shots.

- melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs. Poor shot selection and worse defender

- smith , poor shot selection. Poor shooter

Green can also jack up shots , shoot at 41 fg per and score 25 pts. But he doesnt. So that makes him worse? Greens problem has been consistentcy and being the third scoring option. This year he has his chance. He is off to a good start

No, what makes Jeff Green lower on the list is that he's worse at basketball.

-You clearly don't watch enough Spurs games if you think Leonard can't create his own shot.

-If Melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs (but has still been in the playoffs every year), how does Jeff Green fair under the same criticism: since he's the best player (for now) on a team that's liable to miss the playoffs?

-Josh Smith is miles ahead of Jeff Green on the defensive end of the basketball. His problem is that he's in love with his jump shot.

You really think if we had either leonard, melo or smith vs green that our team would be any better now??

Btw u keep thinking we will miss the playoffs or tank bc we are not. Sorry to disappoint u man

Yes, we would be better. Easily.

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You really think if we had either leonard, melo or smith vs green that our team would be any better now??

Yes.

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Btw u keep thinking we will miss the playoffs or tank bc we are not. Sorry to disappoint u man

Brush up on your reading comprehension.

Here's what I said.
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-If Melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs (but has still been in the playoffs every year), how does Jeff Green fair under the same criticism: since he's the best player (for now) on a team that's liable to miss the playoffs?

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- melo has gotten nowhere in the playoffs. Poor shot selection and worse defender

It has far less to do with tanking, or even missing the playoffs, than it does your criticism of Melo and applying that same standard to Jeff Green.
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« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2013, 12:07:01 PM »

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Jabari Parker has since his ESPN profile struck me as the 'you over-thought that' pick of the draft.

If he's taken anywhere after 3, someone over-thought that. Like Andre Drummond, or Brandon Roy.

I don't think Roy was overthought. He slipped because of injury concerns, and ended up only playing a part of a max extension.

Right.  Roy was red flagged big time, and it proved right eventually. 

But I agree with the premise, anyone who passes on Parker after the top 3 (which are a toss-up), is falling in love with potential, and ignoring the obvious. 

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« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2013, 12:14:37 PM »

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Jeff Green is NOT a top 6 SF, sorry!  That is a Green Teamer remark if I ever saw one.  I don't want to go back and forth on this all day.  Wiggins is twice the prospect that Green ever was!  He is 8 or 9 years younger!  Did you watch the game last night?  He was very, very, very good!  22/10 against a top 5 team.  He iced the game with a jumper and a dunk.  He has a chance to be an elite defender.  Andrew Wiggins is perennial NBA All-Star with a chance to be the best player in the NBA ( once Lebron leaves ) if he reaches his ceiling....Jeff Green is an average NBA player, that's it.....

Ok name me the top 6-7 then

No ordinary nba player can dream to score 43 btw.

Green can be unstoppable. If ppl have forgotten already. And if he is not can still quietly score 17, 5,5 2 block shots. Very good defender also


Stackhouse, Shareef abdur rahim, Antawn jamison, jamal mashburn, jamal crawford, rashard lewis all scored over 50 in one game.

I can't even find a list to include scorers of 40+ in one game because it happens too much. And yes, some absolute duds score 40+ in one game; it does not make or break a player.

Jeff Green is decidedly "solid." You NEVER skip over a potential All-NBA talent at a position because that position is held by someone "solid."

Melo is all talent? He is all i will jack up the shots talent no doubt

And wiggins is an all nba talent when he isnt even playing in the nba?? Its been 2 college games. Jeff grren has gone to the ncaa finals already. Lets see if wiggins can even make it there or at least to elite 8 before he is considered the next bball god.

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« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2013, 12:17:39 PM »

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Anthony's been voted All-NBA six times.

Jeff Green hasn't garnered one selection.

And if we're bringing the NCAA into this... well, uh, Syracuse won a national title with 'Melo. That's a little more impressive than just making it to the finals.
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« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2013, 12:28:16 PM »

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Anthony's been voted All-NBA six times.

Jeff Green hasn't garnered one selection.

And if we're bringing the NCAA into this... well, uh, Syracuse won a national title with 'Melo. That's a little more impressive than just making it to the finals.
lol somebody needs to remove their green tinted glasses to see the truth.

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here are more SF that i think is better than "passive" jeff green.
Rudy Gay, Nicolas Batum, Andre Iguodala, Danilo Gallinari, Loul Deng and heck even the truth Paul Pierce at his age is better than him. Also i'd put Chandler Parsons ahead of him.

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« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2013, 12:40:24 PM »

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Parsons , batum r not much better. I do respect that ppl consider consistentcy. But again green has been a third option, been through a heart issues . this year no excuse. But at his best is a top 5 sf talent. That imo cant be denied