2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread : VOTING ENDS 8:00PM EST TONIGHT

[nickagneta]

With the 12th pick of the 9th round of the 2013 CB Draft the Milwaukee Bucks select:

ALONZO GEE

[wdleehi]

Very true, I said this before already. This is the only league where depth is overrated. With the way the voters bring up injury history, you have to shore up your reserves. But then they go "oh too many bigs" or "there's only so much your depth can bring you". There's no way out of it, it's so funny.

The difference with your team, Yoki, is that you lack the top-tier talent that Orlando has (Kobe), and you have a lot more injury risks.

There is different types of depth.


What you want are clear starters and bench role players that have shown the ability to step up and play a bigger role in case of emergency.  The team still has the center piece to build around.


vs.


Have a team deep with starters (not able to get all the minutes they should because of the depth) but no center piece that it is built around.

[The Walker Wiggle]

For 8.21 GS will take Reggie Jackson

Steal

Co-sign. I somehow overlooked this pick, and got very excited at the prospect of picking up Jackson. In hind-sight I should've drafted him in the morning session.

[wdleehi]

We are taking Isiah Thomas

[rondoallaturca]

We are taking Isiah Thomas

Dang... very nice pick.

[nickagneta]

ROUNDS UPDATE
ROUND 8   Tuesday August 27      
11:00   1-176   Minnesota Timberwolves   McHales Pit: Glen Davis
11:05   2-177   Indiana Pacers   Rondo2287: Elton Brand
11:10   3-178   Chicago Bulls   ronaldo943: Nate Robinson
11:15   4-179   Denver Nuggets   Yoki_IsTheName Golden State: Brandon Rush
11:20   5-180   Oklahoma City Thunder   The Rondo Show: Mario Chalmers
11:25   6-181   Dallas Mavericks   fitzhickey: Chris Kaman
11:30   7-182   Portland Trailblazers   riah32: Zaza Pachulia
11:35   8-183   Atlanta Hawks   Champkind: Alex Len
11:40   9-184   Philadelphia 76ers   Evantime34: Chris Anderson
11:45   10-185   Brooklyn Nets   sofutomygahaPhiladelphia: Ramon Sessions
11:50   11-186   Los Angeles Clippers   WeMadeIt17/Gomesfan: PICK ANY TIME
11:55   12-187   Los Angeles Lakers   BleedGreen1989/rondoallaturca: Boris Diaw
12:00   13-188   Boston Celtics   wdleehi/Edgar/IP: Corey Brewer
12:05   14-189   Milwaukee Bucks   KGs Knee: Reggie Evans
12:10   15-190   San Antonio Spurs   The Walker Wiggle: Cody Zeller
12:15   16-191   Orlando Magic   foulweatherfan Clippers: PICK ANY TIME
12:20   17-192   Phoenix Suns   TruthFot18: Jared Sullinger
12:25   18-193   Detroit Pistons   Celtic Fan Forever: Otto Porter
12:30   19-194   Cleveland Cavaliers   airbelinelli/AB_Celtic: Caron Butler
12:35   20-195   Memphis Grizzlies   Gainesville Celtic: Jose Juan Barea
12:40   21-196   Golden State Warriors   Kane3387: Reggie Jackson
12:45   22-197   Miami Heat   KCatTheStripe: Darrell Arthur
12:50   23-198   Houston Rockets   BigAltheFutureLakers: Quincy Pondexter
12:55   24-199   New York Knicks   pearljammer10:PICK ANY TIME
1:00   25-200   Washington Wizards   Rebus Rankin: Devin Harris
ROUND 9   Tuesday August 27      
1:45   1-201   Washington Wizards   Rebus Rankin Milwaukee: Jerryd Bayless
1:50   2-202   New York Knicks   pearljammer10 Houston: Jason Terry
1:55   3-203   Houston Rockets   BigAltheFutureDallas: PICK ANY TIME
2:00   4-204   Miami Heat   KCatTheStripe: John Salmons
2:05   5-205   Golden State Warriors   Kane3387: PICK ANY TIME
2:10   6-206   Memphis Grizzlies   Gainesville CelticLakers: Kelly Olynyk
2:15   7-207   Cleveland Cavaliers   airbelinelli/AB_CelticDenverOrlando: Jason Thompson
2:20   8-208   Detroit Pistons   Celtic Fan Forever: PICK ANY TIME
2:25   9-209   Phoenix Suns   TruthFot18: Mike Miller
2:30   10-210   Orlando Magic   foulweatherfanDenver: PICK ANY TIME
2:35   11-211   San Antonio Spurs   The Walker Wiggle: Luke Ridnour
2:40   12-212   Milwaukee Bucks   KGs Knee: Alonzo Gee
2:45   13-213   Boston Celtics   wdleehi/Edgar/IP
2:50   14-214   Los Angeles Lakers   BleedGreen1989/rondoallaturca
2:55   15-215   Los Angeles Clippers   WeMadeIt17/Gomesfan
3:00   16-216   Brooklyn Nets   sofutomygaha
3:05   17-217   Philadelphia 76ers   Evantime34
3:10   18-218   Atlanta Hawks   ChampkindClippers
3:15   19-219   Portland Trailblazers   riah32
3:20   20-220   Dallas Mavericks   fitzhickey
3:25   21-221   Oklahoma City Thunder   The Rondo Show
3:30   22-222   Denver Nuggets   Yoki_IsTheNameDallas
3:35   23-223   Chicago Bulls   ronaldo943
3:40   24-224   Indiana Pacers   Rondo2287
3:45   25-225   Minnesota Timberwolves   McHales Pit

[TheTruthFot18]

Looking for more depth?

I'll offer anyone except Duncan/West in a 3 for 3 deal for a solid starting Pg, Sg, or Sf and your two last picks.

PM with offers

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The Orlando Kobes select Jason Thompson

but but but.... look at all those bigs! What do you need Jason Thompson for?? WHY OH WHY

Amar'e insurance.  Very durable, can score a bit, solid jumpshooter.

Very true, I said this before already. This is the only league where depth is overrated. With the way the voters bring up injury history, you have to shore up your reserves. But then they go "oh too many bigs" or "there's only so much your depth can bring you". There's no way out of it, it's so funny.

Hahaha. Nice try, Yoki. YOUR depth is overrated. Everyone is telling you that they don't think you'll get one full player-season out of the Bogut-Varejao combo, but you just won't hear it.

You mean a already healthy Bogut and a Varejao who got off a blood clot, not a broken bone or a sprained ligament, a blood clot, will somehow miss a ton of games, together? C'mon now.

Very true, I said this before already. This is the only league where depth is overrated. With the way the voters bring up injury history, you have to shore up your reserves. But then they go "oh too many bigs" or "there's only so much your depth can bring you". There's no way out of it, it's so funny.

The difference with your team, Yoki, is that you lack the top-tier talent that Orlando has (Kobe), and you have a lot more injury risks.

It doesnt matter if there's top tier talent or B+ talents. Depth is important, and both Orlando and Denver has quality reserves. Out teams' reserves can compete against your teams starters and make it a competitive game. In a real game with these rosters, your second unit will be destroyed by our second unit with the talent that our team has. It keeps our starting 5 fresh and out of foul trouble and less injury risk, all while still being able to win. But in this league it's becoming like it's a very bad thing to have. Overrate the depth all you guys want, but you all know in the real NBA, depth, deep depth is important. Just ask the the real life Warriors.

BTW. for pick number 9.10 Denver selects Marreese Speights. To shore up the frontline with a guy who can rebound and hits 16-20 feet jumpers at a high rate, and have an insurance policy for Bogut and Varejao, not that they need any.

[rondoallaturca]

It doesnt matter if there's top tier talent or B+ talents. Depth is important, and both Orlando and Denver has quality reserves. Out teams' reserves can compete against your teams starters and make it a competitive game. In a real game with these rosters, your second unit will be destroyed by our second unit with the talent that our team has. It keeps our starting 5 fresh and out of foul trouble and less injury risk, all while still being able to win. But in this league it's becoming like it's a very bad thing to have. Overrate the depth all you guys want, but you all know in the real NBA, depth, deep depth is important. Just ask the the real life Warriors.

BTW. for pick number 9.10 Denver selects Marreese Speights. To shore up the frontline with a guy who can rebound and hits 16-20 feet jumpers at a high rate, and have an insurance policy for Bogut and Varejao, not that they need any.

Well we've rounded back into the discussion we had earlier where we agreed to disagree. Depth is definitely important, but for me, there is no way that takes priority over having quality talent. You can have all the depth in the world, but if you don't have a guy like Kobe (like Orlando in this draft), or a guy like Curry (which the Warriors have in real life), depth is going to get you nowhere.

[AB_Celtic]

We are taking Isiah Thomas

He's retired

[Rondo2287]

It doesnt matter if there's top tier talent or B+ talents. Depth is important, and both Orlando and Denver has quality reserves. Out teams' reserves can compete against your teams starters and make it a competitive game. In a real game with these rosters, your second unit will be destroyed by our second unit with the talent that our team has. It keeps our starting 5 fresh and out of foul trouble and less injury risk, all while still being able to win. But in this league it's becoming like it's a very bad thing to have. Overrate the depth all you guys want, but you all know in the real NBA, depth, deep depth is important. Just ask the the real life Warriors.

BTW. for pick number 9.10 Denver selects Marreese Speights. To shore up the frontline with a guy who can rebound and hits 16-20 feet jumpers at a high rate, and have an insurance policy for Bogut and Varejao, not that they need any.

Well we've rounded back into the discussion we had earlier where we agreed to disagree. Depth is definitely important, but for me, there is no way that takes priority over having quality talent. You can have all the depth in the world, but if you don't have a guy like Kobe (like Orlando in this draft), or a guy like Curry (which the Warriors have in real life), depth is going to get you nowhere.

Exactly, a team with guys like Deron and Durant would be tough to beat...

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Very true, I said this before already. This is the only league where depth is overrated. With the way the voters bring up injury history, you have to shore up your reserves. But then they go "oh too many bigs" or "there's only so much your depth can bring you". There's no way out of it, it's so funny.

The difference with your team, Yoki, is that you lack the top-tier talent that Orlando has (Kobe), and you have a lot more injury risks.

There is different types of depth.


What you want are clear starters and bench role players that have shown the ability to step up and play a bigger role in case of emergency.  The team still has the center piece to build around.


vs.


Have a team deep with starters (not able to get all the minutes they should because of the depth) but no center piece that it is built around.

Having their minutes cut doesn't change the impact they bring to the game. Does their skills, instincts and basketball IQ diminish when they play lesser minutes? I don't think so.

There's no bad thing when it comes to deep bench. People would argue that you have to play the starers to bring heavy minutes, especially in the playoffs to maximize their production. That's true, and having great depth doesnt mean you have to sacrifice their minutes for the sake of making sure the guy behind him gets his minutes as well. You dont go "oh your playing magnificent but he needs his 30 minutes a game so you sit down". No, whoever is playing better gets the time, period.

The deep bench part comes in when injuries, foul trouble, sturggles on the court happen. Who wouldn't want a very skilled backup whatever to take away minutes from a starter who is suffering from one of those three factors?

And for the record, since they opened it up, this team has a top tier talent. His name is Damian Lillard. Gee, I don't know, didn't he took over a Portland team on his Rookie year? Isn't Portland ready to contemplate on trading LMA because they have a franchise player in their hands now?

[rondoallaturca]

In discussion for a possible 9.14 trade. I'll make my pick shortly.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

It doesnt matter if there's top tier talent or B+ talents. Depth is important, and both Orlando and Denver has quality reserves. Out teams' reserves can compete against your teams starters and make it a competitive game. In a real game with these rosters, your second unit will be destroyed by our second unit with the talent that our team has. It keeps our starting 5 fresh and out of foul trouble and less injury risk, all while still being able to win. But in this league it's becoming like it's a very bad thing to have. Overrate the depth all you guys want, but you all know in the real NBA, depth, deep depth is important. Just ask the the real life Warriors.

BTW. for pick number 9.10 Denver selects Marreese Speights. To shore up the frontline with a guy who can rebound and hits 16-20 feet jumpers at a high rate, and have an insurance policy for Bogut and Varejao, not that they need any.

Well we've rounded back into the discussion we had earlier where we agreed to disagree. Depth is definitely important, but for me, there is no way that takes priority over having quality talent. You can have all the depth in the world, but if you don't have a guy like Kobe (like Orlando in this draft), or a guy like Curry (which the Warriors have in real life), depth is going to get you nowhere.

Damian Lillard took over the Blazers in his rookie year didn't he? That's a guy. Hit big shots, scored in variety of ways, was a solid playmaker, in his ROOKIE year.

[wdleehi]

Very true, I said this before already. This is the only league where depth is overrated. With the way the voters bring up injury history, you have to shore up your reserves. But then they go "oh too many bigs" or "there's only so much your depth can bring you". There's no way out of it, it's so funny.

The difference with your team, Yoki, is that you lack the top-tier talent that Orlando has (Kobe), and you have a lot more injury risks.

There is different types of depth.


What you want are clear starters and bench role players that have shown the ability to step up and play a bigger role in case of emergency.  The team still has the center piece to build around.


vs.


Have a team deep with starters (not able to get all the minutes they should because of the depth) but no center piece that it is built around.

Having their minutes cut doesn't change the impact they bring to the game. Does their skills, instincts and basketball IQ diminish when they play lesser minutes? I don't think so.

There's no bad thing when it comes to deep bench. People would argue that you have to play the starers to bring heavy minutes, especially in the playoffs to maximize their production. That's true, and having great depth doesnt mean you have to sacrifice their minutes for the sake of making sure the guy behind him gets his minutes as well. You dont go "oh your playing magnificent but he needs his 30 minutes a game so you sit down". No, whoever is playing better gets the time, period.

The deep bench part comes in when injuries, foul trouble, sturggles on the court happen. Who wouldn't want a very skilled backup whatever to take away minutes from a starter who is suffering from one of those three factors?

And for the record, since they opened it up, this team has a top tier talent. His name is Damian Lillard. Gee, I don't know, didn't he took over a Portland team on his Rookie year? Isn't Portland ready to contemplate on trading LMA because they have a franchise player in their hands now?

It it a waste of resources. 


It is also a waiting game.  When can the backup bolt to a team that can use him as a starter. 


That's why teams like to try to use their depth to trade for a single star.