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celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« on: July 25, 2013, 08:31:50 AM »

Offline Tr1boy

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As much as i hate to say it, the team hasnt been the same with the loss of ray allen. Its a guy who can go off shooting threes and play solid defense. The shooting threat alone opens up the floor to confuse opponents defense and also give other guys on the team to operate.

As of now a rondo and ab combination is bad in terms of opening things up. And with rondo last year and with his injury less likely to run more in transition, the worry is magnified. Eventually i wouldnt mind brooks on the floor more with rondo bc at least he can create his own shot.

Anyone else feel this is going to become a problem again?

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 09:00:42 AM »

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Yes 3 point shooting is a problem on this team. I'm not sure if it's a bigger problem than our Center situation, but it could be. I think it really comes down to the SG, and we do not have one that is a consistent threat.

I like our PG, SF, PF situations but SG and C are the 2 spots this team is going to need to upgrade in the future.

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2013, 09:08:50 AM »

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we're rebuilding, we have a ton of weaknesses...

3 PT, Center position, rebounding, post play, etc, etc...basically some of the same problems from last year and before that, but it just got a lot worse

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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2013, 09:21:40 AM »

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we're rebuilding, we have a ton of weaknesses...

3 PT, Center position, rebounding, post play, etc, etc...basically some of the same problems from last year and before that, but it just got a lot worse

Last time i checked humphries, sullinger, wallace and rondo are pretty darn good rebounders. In addition you can get decent help from bass, olynyk.

In addition in regards to post play we need to give sully more of a chance this year and we all saw what olynyk can do.

To me the center position issue is not as bad as lack of three pt shooting

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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2013, 09:29:21 AM »

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If the core pieces of this team are to to built around and not just flipped in the future this team has two giant holes.

Defensive Center

Scoring 2 guard with range

If a tyson chandler like defensive anchor was added to the rotation of Sully and KO then this team has the potential to be very solid inside.

The SG needs to be a player with size 6'5+ who can either start or be a super sub and average 18+pts a game while giving the team elite 3pt shooting. Ideally this player has the size to play some SF allowing the Cs to go small with Rondo, AB, SG, JG and a big.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 09:34:49 AM »

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It would be amazing if the Celtics get to double digits wins in the upcoming 2013 - 2014 season. Current prediction is 8 wins for the season, with a few miracles, the Celtics can get to 10 wins this year but it is going to take a herculean effort.

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 09:42:24 AM »

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It would be amazing if the Celtics get to double digits wins in the upcoming 2013 - 2014 season. Current prediction is 8 wins for the season, with a few miracles, the Celtics can get to 10 wins this year but it is going to take a herculean effort.

Your joking right? 

Are you really a celtics fan?

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 09:49:03 AM »

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If the core pieces of this team are to to built around and not just flipped in the future this team has two giant holes.

Defensive Center

Scoring 2 guard with range

If a tyson chandler like defensive anchor was added to the rotation of Sully and KO then this team has the potential to be very solid inside.

The SG needs to be a player with size 6'5+ who can either start or be a super sub and average 18+pts a game while giving the team elite 3pt shooting. Ideally this player has the size to play some SF allowing the Cs to go small with Rondo, AB, SG, JG and a big.

Disagree. Why is an elite defensive center mandatory? Does miami have one?  And last time i checked no way is hibbert considered a great defensive center.

Its 90 percent about positioning, boxing out, prevent space to operate etc.

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 09:52:16 AM »

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Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 09:52:46 AM »

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To me with the current roster the biggest problem is rim protection.  Last year our biggest problem was shot creation IMO
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 09:53:06 AM »

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It would be amazing if the Celtics get to double digits wins in the upcoming 2013 - 2014 season. Current prediction is 8 wins for the season, with a few miracles, the Celtics can get to 10 wins this year but it is going to take a herculean effort.


o man, the Celtics may have a worse record than last year, but 8 wins is really pushing it. I think this team is capable of 35-40 wins
Your joking right? 

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 09:57:38 AM »

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To me with the current roster the biggest problem is rim protection.  Last year our biggest problem was shot creation IMO

Again someone help answer how miami magically the only team that can play without a rim protector.

It sounds like some of you guys would of been much happier with drafting dieng instead

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2013, 10:08:33 AM »

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To me with the current roster the biggest problem is rim protection.  Last year our biggest problem was shot creation IMO

Again someone help answer how miami magically the only team that can play without a rim protector.

It sounds like some of you guys would of been much happier with drafting dieng instead
They are fine without a rim protector because Lebron is the best defender in the league, can cut off penetration, step up for the weak side block and get in the passing lanes.  Also because the Heat's team defense consistently played like they were attached with a string.

I am a huge Olynyk fan and you can verify that by looking at who I wanted us to draft before the draft actually happened. Olynyk is miles better than Dieng, but that doesn't mean we don't need a rim protector to complement him.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2013, 10:10:40 AM »

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It would be amazing if the Celtics get to double digits wins in the upcoming 2013 - 2014 season. Current prediction is 8 wins for the season, with a few miracles, the Celtics can get to 10 wins this year but it is going to take a herculean effort.

Haha what? 8 wins? At worst this team gets the 8th seed.

We are going to be nowhere near as bad as you think and the east is nowhere as good as you think.

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2013, 10:13:40 AM »

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As much as i hate to say it, the team hasnt been the same with the loss of ray allen. Its a guy who can go off shooting threes and play solid defense. The shooting threat alone opens up the floor to confuse opponents defense and also give other guys on the team to operate.

As of now a rondo and ab combination is bad in terms of opening things up. And with rondo last year and with his injury less likely to run more in transition, the worry is magnified. Eventually i wouldnt mind brooks on the floor more with rondo bc at least he can create his own shot.

Anyone else feel this is going to become a problem again?

I agree with you that AB is a bad fit with Rondo, at least based on his shooting to this point in his career. A player in the style of Reddick seems like a much better fit to me.

AB on the other hand seems like he'd be great with a guy like Curry or Irving.