Olynyk's Offensive Ceiling is Tim Duncan

[JJones1090]

Quick question...how much does KO's vertical improve if he buzzes the mop?

There's gotta be a way to figure that out...force produced through jumping...minus 35 lbs of hair...too many numbers, but I'd love to know.

Yeah but then you mess with his hang time. His hair acts like a parachute.

 Thats how he gets shots off with out getting high up in the air, his decent takes longer than his defender...

Excellent point. There's a lot more to factor in than vertical leaping ability. There's thrust, drag, lift, friction. Hell, even temperature.

I just wish everyone would stop talking about this young man "busting" in all the threads. I feel it's in bad taste.

[Robert24]

I don't like Olynyk at all and I think he'll be a scrub in the league. Didn't like him coming into the Draft and seeing the Cs trade up for him was very annoying. We should've either taken Muhammad with that pick or had kept the 16th and taken Dieng, Plumlee or Gobert. Anyway, if Olynyk does succeed, I agree with the Scola comparison. Not a long time ago, he was one of the best post players in the league. Add a good jump shot and you got best-case KO.

[erisred]

Quick question...how much does KO's vertical improve if he buzzes the mop?

There's gotta be a way to figure that out...force produced through jumping...minus 35 lbs of hair...too many numbers, but I'd love to know.

0.01 inches?

Actually, I think he fiddles with that hair too much in game, trying to keep it out of his eyes. Yes, he has the headband, but on just about every defensive possession I've seen of him, he's flicking his hair back. I don't care how long it is, I just don't want anything getting in the way of Kelly's attention.

[Fafnir]

Quick question...how much does KO's vertical improve if he buzzes the mop?

There's gotta be a way to figure that out...force produced through jumping...minus 35 lbs of hair...too many numbers, but I'd love to know.

0.01 inches?

Actually, I think he fiddles with that hair too much in game, trying to keep it out of his eyes. Yes, he has the headband, but on just about every defensive possession I've seen of him, he's flicking his hair back. I don't care how long it is, I just don't want anything getting in the way of Kelly's attention.

Players do that all the time, its weird if you watch for it.

Guys will play with their mouthguard, headbands, whatever their thing is while guarding the ball even.

[LooseCannon]

I don't like Olynyk at all and I think he'll be a scrub in the league. Didn't like him coming into the Draft and seeing the Cs trade up for him was very annoying. We should've either taken Muhammad with that pick or had kept the 16th and taken Dieng, Plumlee or Gobert. Anyway, if Olynyk does succeed, I agree with the Scola comparison. Not a long time ago, he was one of the best post players in the league. Add a good jump shot and you got best-case KO.

I think Shabazz was the guy with bust written all over him.  I wonder if the fans who like the Olynyk pick tend to hate Muhammad and vice versa.  I can see some fans hating the idea of both, but it's harder to imagine fans who would have been happy with either.

[JJones1090]

I don't like Olynyk at all and I think he'll be a scrub in the league. Didn't like him coming into the Draft and seeing the Cs trade up for him was very annoying. We should've either taken Muhammad with that pick or had kept the 16th and taken Dieng, Plumlee or Gobert. Anyway, if Olynyk does succeed, I agree with the Scola comparison. Not a long time ago, he was one of the best post players in the league. Add a good jump shot and you got best-case KO.

I think Shabazz was the guy with bust written all over him.  I wonder if the fans who like the Olynyk pick tend to hate Muhammad and vice versa.  I can see some fans hating the idea of both, but it's harder to imagine fans who would have been happy with either.

I would have been happy with either. I like KO a lot, and I think he has great potential. I think he was relatively safe, and that he may never WOW us. But I think he will be a rotational player at least.

Shabazz...the kid gets a hard time. But he has the potential to be excellent. Or a complete flop. I'm a risk taker and gambler, so high-risk high-reward prospects appeal to me. But I also see KO as a potential high-reward prospect...though largely unrealized. I just think he was safer.

And truth be told...I wanted some big guys. Even though Giannis or Shabazz would have been tempting for me if I was a GM going into rebuild mode.

[Q_FBE]

I am thinking that he turns into a taller version of Troy Murphy but that is just me. I don't picture him an all defensive candidate. His lack of physicallity is a concern I have.

[Sketch5]

Quick question...how much does KO's vertical improve if he buzzes the mop?

There's gotta be a way to figure that out...force produced through jumping...minus 35 lbs of hair...too many numbers, but I'd love to know.

Yeah but then you mess with his hang time. His hair acts like a parachute.

 Thats how he gets shots off with out getting high up in the air, his decent takes longer than his defender...

Excellent point. There's a lot more to factor in than vertical leaping ability. There's thrust, drag, lift, friction. Hell, even temperature.

I just wish everyone would stop talking about this young man "busting" in all the threads. I feel it's in bad taste.

The kid has a good IQ. Just that alone will keep him in, kinda like Scal. I hope the best for him, seems like a cool kid.

[Sketch5]

I don't like Olynyk at all and I think he'll be a scrub in the league. Didn't like him coming into the Draft and seeing the Cs trade up for him was very annoying. We should've either taken Muhammad with that pick or had kept the 16th and taken Dieng, Plumlee or Gobert. Anyway, if Olynyk does succeed, I agree with the Scola comparison. Not a long time ago, he was one of the best post players in the league. Add a good jump shot and you got best-case KO.

Shabzz is a punk. Pouts when he doesn't get the ball. the guy had averaged less than an assist last year. You think a guy with the ball in his hands would have at least 2 or 3 apg.

When he got interviewed right after being drafted they asked him about playing with a passing pg like Rubio and he said its good because he likes to shoot it. Which doesn't spell out team ball at all.

The other guys like Dieng  and Plumlee are project guys. We already have one of those in Melo. Olynk is the closet to being NBA ready. The only negatives are his jumping and foot speed as of right now.

Hes a good shooter and passer with a pg mentality and High IQ. will he be a star? don't know, but Im thinking he could be as good as some of the top 10 in the draft, or as bad as the bottom 10. Just depends on how hard the kid works. 

[Tr1boy]

Worse case like ive said before is luis scola. Which is nothing more than ok and helpful to get production off the bench.

I think you're underselling just how good Scola was his first few years after coming over.

If you can get Luis Scola production from the 13th pick you take it and run.

Scolas defense was avg to below avg when he came in the nba. Sure he can score 20 but the person he guarded also scored 20 or more.

Maybe i wasnt clear but what i mean is overall worse case.

Olynyk though should be better than scola. Already a better passer, ball handler, moves better and has 3 inch height adv

[JJones1090]

Im thinking he could be as good as some of the top 10 in the draft, or as bad as the bottom 10. Just depends on how hard the kid works.

This. I think this is the case for almost anyone who is talented enough to be drafted in the first round. Some people will disagree, but hard work and determination move mountains.

That mentality should be the Boston Celtics culture above all else. Grit, determination, heart, and blood, sweat, tears. The most grueling hard work anyone could imagine...that's the recipe for a champion. Physical tools are 1/4 the battle.

TP

[Tr1boy]

Olynyk met our needs of losing kg and pp. Not that he is like either but he has the size bc of loss of kg and in general and provides scoring punch with pp gone. He can start with sully as soon as the year starts. Where was muhammad going to fit? Green is already our sf and u dont pick in the lotto to gain a 6th man player. Olynyk is a better scorer than muhammad was last year. The fg percentage diff alone is night and day. And dieng would of been a decent later choice but he lacks offensive skills and is not an elite defender/rebounder like a anthoney davis. Olynyk pick makes sense and he was the bpa at 13

[Robert24]

I don't like Olynyk at all and I think he'll be a scrub in the league. Didn't like him coming into the Draft and seeing the Cs trade up for him was very annoying. We should've either taken Muhammad with that pick or had kept the 16th and taken Dieng, Plumlee or Gobert. Anyway, if Olynyk does succeed, I agree with the Scola comparison. Not a long time ago, he was one of the best post players in the league. Add a good jump shot and you got best-case KO.

Shabzz is a punk. Pouts when he doesn't get the ball. the guy had averaged less than an assist last year. You think a guy with the ball in his hands would have at least 2 or 3 apg.

When he got interviewed right after being drafted they asked him about playing with a passing pg like Rubio and he said its good because he likes to shoot it. Which doesn't spell out team ball at all.

The other guys like Dieng  and Plumlee are project guys. We already have one of those in Melo. Olynk is the closet to being NBA ready. The only negatives are his jumping and foot speed as of right now.

Hes a good shooter and passer with a pg mentality and High IQ. will he be a star? don't know, but Im thinking he could be as good as some of the top 10 in the draft, or as bad as the bottom 10. Just depends on how hard the kid works.

Shabazz was just another victim of the media last season. I think it was dumb to be angry at your teammate that scored the game winning shot didn't let you take it, but other than that, he was good. The age thing was his father's fault and I don't put against Bazz. Also, I wouldn't call Plumlee and Dieng projects. They're not as NBA ready as KO but they're both good defenders and rebounders. We're rebuilding so I'd be happy to get guys who have upside.

[Celtics4ever]

Tim Duncan has he best bankshot I have seen this side of Sam Jones.   I doubt Oly will reach TD's ceiling.

[JJones1090]

Tim Duncan has he best bankshot I have seen this side of Sam Jones.   I doubt Oly will reach TD's ceiling.

If he does, I will name my firstborn Oly. If he doesn't I will name him Tim. Oly Jones vs. Tim Jones...if he busts completely I'll name my kid Indiana Jones.