Clippers and Celtics Talking Deal

[clover]

and some people thought we should demand Blake Griffin, LOL.

We are holding out to get Eric Bledsoe. Think about that.

yea that's just delusional thinking . No way is Blake in the deal

Most like deal IMO

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry or Lee
LAC Sends: Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler(Expiring)and 2 1st's

Then trade PP to a team looking to clear salary , getting a pick back. That team then buy's out PP and he goes to LA to join Doc and KG

This scenario makes most sense to me .

Seems like Dallas could be the team that does that for Pierce.  But I don't want to let Doc and KG slip away for Jordan alone (and picks).

[hpantazo]

and some people thought we should demand Blake Griffin, LOL.

We are holding out to get Eric Bledsoe. Think about that.

yea that's just delusional thinking . No way is Blake in the deal

Most like deal IMO

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry or Lee
LAC Sends: Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler(Expiring)and 2 1st's

Then trade PP to a team looking to clear salary , getting a pick back. That team then buy's out PP and he goes to LA to join Doc and KG

This scenario makes most sense to me .

Seems like Dallas could be the team that does that for Pierce.  But I don't want to let Doc and KG slip away for Jordan alone (and picks).

Yep, Dallas or Houston are the two real options for a Pierce deal. I agree that we should refuse the Clips deal unless the give us Bledsoe together with Jordan and two 1st rounders. I would also insist on no protection on the picks.

[esel1000]

I wonder if Pierce to the Rockets for some young assets (Demo, TRob) is the follow up deal.

If this Clips deal goes down, I do this in a heartbeat. Get TRob here pair him Jordan or Sully. Or even better, he just becomes another asset we can flip for a bigger prize

[crownontherocks]

Man things just got real

I am just like wow right now. 

I need a drink

[Mencius]

and some people thought we should demand Blake Griffin, LOL.

We are holding out to get Eric Bledsoe. Think about that.

yea that's just delusional thinking . No way is Blake in the deal

Most like deal IMO

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry or Lee
LAC Sends: Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler(Expiring)and 2 1st's

Then trade PP to a team looking to clear salary , getting a pick back. That team then buy's out PP and he goes to LA to join Doc and KG

This scenario makes most sense to me .

I mostly agree with you, although I don't know that Danny could necessarily get the two firsts with that package.  I keep hearing people repeat that we are in the driver's seat.  Well, it takes two to tango.  I mean, from Danny's perspective, how many teams are willing to trade for KG and have assets we'd want.  This list is vanishingly small and must be a team on the cusp of a championship, so if we don't get a deal done with the Clips, then who else do we get a deal done with?  Danny would rather get something for his aging and soon to be gone old stars than nothing.  If he somehow gets both Jordan and Bledsoe, that's way better than nothing for KG and PP.  If he gets one first out of them too, all the better.  I just don't think he'll get both Jordan and Bledsoe *AND* two firsts.  That's way too much for them to give up for one or two years of 37 year old KG with a bazillion miles on him (and Doc coaching them.)

[hpantazo]

and some people thought we should demand Blake Griffin, LOL.

We are holding out to get Eric Bledsoe. Think about that.

yea that's just delusional thinking . No way is Blake in the deal

Most like deal IMO

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry or Lee
LAC Sends: Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler(Expiring)and 2 1st's

Then trade PP to a team looking to clear salary , getting a pick back. That team then buy's out PP and he goes to LA to join Doc and KG

This scenario makes most sense to me .

I mostly agree with you, although I don't know that Danny could necessarily get the two firsts with that package.  I keep hearing people repeat that we are in the driver's seat.  Well, it takes two to tango.  I mean, from Danny's perspective, how many teams are willing to trade for KG and have assets we'd want.  This list is vanishingly small and must be a team on the cusp of a championship, so if we don't get a deal done with the Clips, then who else do we get a deal done with?  Danny would rather get something for his aging and soon to be gone old stars than nothing.  If he somehow gets both Jordan and Bledsoe, that's way better than nothing for KG and PP.  If he gets one first out of them too, all the better.  I just don't think he'll get both Jordan and Bledsoe *AND* two firsts.  That's way too much for them to give up for one or two years of KG (and Doc coaching them.)

Don't underestimate the value of Doc. He is highly regarded around the league and CP3 wants him as a coach. If getting Doc keeps CP3 in LA, then the deal is totally worth it for the Clips.

[Mencius]

and some people thought we should demand Blake Griffin, LOL.

We are holding out to get Eric Bledsoe. Think about that.

yea that's just delusional thinking . No way is Blake in the deal

Most like deal IMO

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry or Lee
LAC Sends: Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler(Expiring)and 2 1st's

Then trade PP to a team looking to clear salary , getting a pick back. That team then buy's out PP and he goes to LA to join Doc and KG

This scenario makes most sense to me .

I mostly agree with you, although I don't know that Danny could necessarily get the two firsts with that package.  I keep hearing people repeat that we are in the driver's seat.  Well, it takes two to tango.  I mean, from Danny's perspective, how many teams are willing to trade for KG and have assets we'd want.  This list is vanishingly small and must be a team on the cusp of a championship, so if we don't get a deal done with the Clips, then who else do we get a deal done with?  Danny would rather get something for his aging and soon to be gone old stars than nothing.  If he somehow gets both Jordan and Bledsoe, that's way better than nothing for KG and PP.  If he gets one first out of them too, all the better.  I just don't think he'll get both Jordan and Bledsoe *AND* two firsts.  That's way too much for them to give up for one or two years of KG (and Doc coaching them.)

Don't underestimate the value of Doc. He is highly regarded around the league and CP3 wants him as a coach. If getting Doc keeps CP3 in LA, then the deal is totally worth it for the Clips.

You could be right.  Doc's had a good run with us since we got KG, but if I'm the Clippers, I'm wondering 'Is Doc that much better than say, Lionel Hollins, or George Karl that we need to give up the farm for him and 37 year old KG?'  To me, Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler and 2 firsts for KG, Lee and Doc is too steep, but this is the Clippers we're talking about, so you never know.

[Nerf DPOY]

Thunder would love a Perk for KG swap and have pick #12. Bulls could use KG and have future Bobcats pick, just off top of my head.....

Kinda concerned about Bradley AND Bledsoe being a year away from paydays considering all of the money still committed after this deal...

Edit: My saying that the Thunder would love a Perk for KG swap isn't based off of anything than what I think is obvious. Same goes for the Bulls.

[clover]

and some people thought we should demand Blake Griffin, LOL.

We are holding out to get Eric Bledsoe. Think about that.

yea that's just delusional thinking . No way is Blake in the deal

Most like deal IMO

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry or Lee
LAC Sends: Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler(Expiring)and 2 1st's

Then trade PP to a team looking to clear salary , getting a pick back. That team then buy's out PP and he goes to LA to join Doc and KG

This scenario makes most sense to me .

I mostly agree with you, although I don't know that Danny could necessarily get the two firsts with that package.  I keep hearing people repeat that we are in the driver's seat.  Well, it takes two to tango.  I mean, from Danny's perspective, how many teams are willing to trade for KG and have assets we'd want.  This list is vanishingly small and must be a team on the cusp of a championship, so if we don't get a deal done with the Clips, then who else do we get a deal done with?  Danny would rather get something for his aging and soon to be gone old stars than nothing.  If he somehow gets both Jordan and Bledsoe, that's way better than nothing for KG and PP.  If he gets one first out of them too, all the better.  I just don't think he'll get both Jordan and Bledsoe *AND* two firsts.  That's way too much for them to give up for one or two years of KG (and Doc coaching them.)

Don't underestimate the value of Doc. He is highly regarded around the league and CP3 wants him as a coach. If getting Doc keeps CP3 in LA, then the deal is totally worth it for the Clips.

You could be right.  Doc's had a good run with us since we got KG, but if I'm the Clippers, I'm wondering 'Is Doc that much better than say, Lionel Hollins, or George Karl that we need to give up the farm for him and 37 year old KG?'  To me, Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler and 2 firsts for KG, Lee and Doc is too steep, but this is the Clippers we're talking about, so you never know.

Wrong question.

The question for the Clips is, "Does Doc make the difference in getting Chris Paul resigned?"

[Mencius]

and some people thought we should demand Blake Griffin, LOL.

We are holding out to get Eric Bledsoe. Think about that.

yea that's just delusional thinking . No way is Blake in the deal

Most like deal IMO

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry or Lee
LAC Sends: Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler(Expiring)and 2 1st's

Then trade PP to a team looking to clear salary , getting a pick back. That team then buy's out PP and he goes to LA to join Doc and KG

This scenario makes most sense to me .

I mostly agree with you, although I don't know that Danny could necessarily get the two firsts with that package.  I keep hearing people repeat that we are in the driver's seat.  Well, it takes two to tango.  I mean, from Danny's perspective, how many teams are willing to trade for KG and have assets we'd want.  This list is vanishingly small and must be a team on the cusp of a championship, so if we don't get a deal done with the Clips, then who else do we get a deal done with?  Danny would rather get something for his aging and soon to be gone old stars than nothing.  If he somehow gets both Jordan and Bledsoe, that's way better than nothing for KG and PP.  If he gets one first out of them too, all the better.  I just don't think he'll get both Jordan and Bledsoe *AND* two firsts.  That's way too much for them to give up for one or two years of KG (and Doc coaching them.)

Don't underestimate the value of Doc. He is highly regarded around the league and CP3 wants him as a coach. If getting Doc keeps CP3 in LA, then the deal is totally worth it for the Clips.

You could be right.  Doc's had a good run with us since we got KG, but if I'm the Clippers, I'm wondering 'Is Doc that much better than say, Lionel Hollins, or George Karl that we need to give up the farm for him and 37 year old KG?'  To me, Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler and 2 firsts for KG, Lee and Doc is too steep, but this is the Clippers we're talking about, so you never know.

Wrong question.

The question for the Clips is, "Does Doc make the difference in getting Chris Paul resigned?"

Yeah, I get you, but Doc's not in a vacuum.  You have to consider the totality of the deal.  You're subtracting components to add Doc and KG.  So, the question is, "Does giving up young talents Jordan, Bledsoe, and two firsts for Doc and at most two years of 37 year old KG make Paul want to resign?"  He might regard that as an opportunity to go for it now, and he might regard it as gutting future prospects for a marginally better max 2 year window with KG.  It's not like they'd be getting 31 year old KG like we did.

The good thing is we have less than two weeks to wait to find out.

[CelticConcourse]

ESPN sources saying Rondo considering retirement if KG leaves.

I saw it in the comments section; must be where Stephen A is getting his news from

[Moranis]

Bledsoe will be in the deal. If not, we are essentially getting Jordan and picks . No way Ainge does that deal.

Why? KG only has value to a contender, something Boston is not, and Doc clearly doesn't want to be here and you won't have to pay his replacement 7 million a year.  Of course Boston should be pushing for Bledsoe, but I think they do the trade anyway.

[BleedGreen1989]

Bledsoe will be in the deal. If not, we are essentially getting Jordan and picks . No way Ainge does that deal.

Why? KG only has value to a contender, something Boston is not, and Doc clearly doesn't want to be here and you won't have to pay his replacement 7 million a year.  Of course Boston should be pushing for Bledsoe, but I think they do the trade anyway.

Yeah I don't see Boston holding the cards here. If they out their foot down and say absolutely no Bledsoe, Danny probably still takes the deal.

[Nerf DPOY]

Bledsoe will be in the deal. If not, we are essentially getting Jordan and picks . No way Ainge does that deal.

Why? KG only has value to a contender, something Boston is not, and Doc clearly doesn't want to be here and you won't have to pay his replacement 7 million a year.  Of course Boston should be pushing for Bledsoe, but I think they do the trade anyway.

 I'd rather just keep KG and Doc. I think maybe you're kinda tunnel-visioned on the 13-14 tank job at all costs. You might be right ultimately, but I don't think many would agree with you. The only positives I see to making a Bledsoeless deal is that it improves draft selection(?) and  saves ownership money. Give me Bledsoe please.

[RJ87]

ESPN sources saying Rondo considering retirement if KG leaves.

I saw it in the comments section; must be where Stephen A is getting his news from

Lol.

TP.