Celtics/Clippers trade scenarios via ESPN's Larry Coon

[j804]

LOS ANGELES -- If the Los Angeles Clippers get their wish, the only thing they won't be getting from the Boston Celtics this summer is the parquet floor at the Garden and the 17 championship banners hanging from the rafters.

If their plan works, however, maybe they'll be able to raise their very own banner at Staples Center.

The Clippers' plan is to someway, somehow pry Doc Rivers, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce from the Celtics and hope that the trio, combined with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, can get the Clippers their first NBA title. (Or at the very least, get them to their first Western Conference finals.)

There are two key things that need to take place for this to happen.

First, the Clippers must be fine with essentially mortgaging their future to make a run at a title for the next year or two with two players who will be 37 and 36, respectively, when next season begins.

Second, the Celtics must be fine with starting their rebuilding project early by blowing up the core of the team that won a title in 2008.

If those two things happen, the next step is figuring out how this mega-deal would shake out logistically, and for that there's no one better to turn to than ESPN.com's salary-cap guru Larry Coon.

There are two scenarios for the Clippers to complete this move, one is if they do it before July 1 and the other is if they do it after July 1.

Let's start with before July 1, which matters under the new CBA. According to Coon, if a team has $0-$9.6 million outgoing, it can take back 150 percent. If it's $9.6-$19.2 million it's the outgoing plus $5 million. If it's over $19.2 million, it's 125 percent.

So if the Clippers wanted to trade for Garnett and Pierce, who make $28,356,610, in one big mega-trade before July 1, they would need to send out at least $22,605,288. Let's start with DeAndre Jordan, who makes $10,532,977, and Caron Butler, who makes $8,000,000. Those two add up to $18,532,977. The Clippers would still need another $4,072,311 under this scenario, which would not be met even if they included Eric Bledsoe and Willie Green, who combine to make less than that. They could make it work if they included Jamal Crawford, but sources say Crawford would not be included in the deal.

That means the Clippers would go to the second option, which would be doing two separate trades. In this scenario, according to Coon, they get 150 percent or $5 million rather than just the 125 percent they get by acquiring them together. So they could trade Jordan and Bledsoe for Pierce and then Butler for Garnett. These two separate but parallel trades would work from a numbers standpoint.

If they wait until after July 1, they need to send out $22,133,656 if they wanted to trade for both together. Jordan and Butler add up to $18,986,550, so they'd need another $3,147,106. Bledsoe and Green would add up to enough.

Separately they'd need to send out $7,433,735 for Garnett, and Butler is still enough there, and they'd need to send out $10,155,556 for Pierce, and Jordan is enough but the Clippers would likely be forced to add Bledsoe as well.

Either way you cut it, the Clippers can certainly make a deal under the new CBA this summer that would bring Garnett and Pierce to Los Angeles for a package that would include Jordan, Butler, Bledsoe and possibly Green.

And now on to the not-so-mathematically-driven trade of Rivers to the Clippers.

Rivers still has three years and $21 million remaining on his contract but is eyeing an exit with a strong interest in coming to Los Angeles, where he played for the Clippers during the 1991-92 season.

Rivers wouldn't be the first coach to be traded. In 2007, the Miami Heat allowed Stan Van Gundy to leave and become the head coach the Orlando Magic in exchange for two second-round picks.

Considering the Clippers would already be trading four players to the Celtics that started a combined 232 games last season, a future first- and second-round pick would probably be enough to allow Rivers to walk away from his deal. Besides the Celtics don't need to pay a coach $7 million per season to watch over a rebuilding project, especially when Rivers has said that's something he's not interested in doing.

As crazy as it may be to think of Rivers, Pierce and Garnett in Los Angeles instead of Boston next season, the Clippers and Celtics could actually make it happen this summer.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/clippers/post/_/id/4648/how-the-clippers-celtics-trade-could-happen


If Ainge really wants to blow this thing up and he is on record saying this team can't compete for a title as is, and if its true the Clippers will be aggressive "shaking all the trees" like one source said then this deal is looking more and more like its going to go down. I do wish we could get more for them and hate to see them go, but think about we will get NOTHING for them if they ride off into retirement here...

[ManUp]

You know stuff's real when Larry Coon gets involved.

[CelticConcourse]

lol I love how he uses such exact numbers; that extra $3 really counts!

[kgainez]

Idk...I like it, especially if we get that fourth guy in Willie Green

4 guys and 2 future draft picks to help out rebuilding process


Rondo/Bledsoe
AB/Lee
Jeff/Caron
Bass/Sully
DJ/Shav


No it's not perfect. And our front court still sucks, but I think that's a wonderful start at a rebuild. You let our starters develop and I think in the next 3 or 4 years you have a contending team. Maybe earlier than that.

I'd like to obviously add to the front. Get a team like the Pacers mixed with Nuggets going. I'm with it.

Just need to make a great choice with the coach.

[CelticConcourse]

Rereading this thread, we might as well just switch team names with the Clippers.

[KGs Knee]

Just say no!!!!!


To DeAndre Jordan

[Evantime34]

Just say no!!!!!


To DeAndre Jordan

I don't see a better alternative that a team would be willing to give up for kg and Pierce.

[Celtics4ever]

Something is better than nothing.   I would want picks with Jordan and Bledsoe for KG and Doc.

These guys are not great by any means but if do this we are tank mode.   If we get a superstud then these average guys are either assets or nice complimentary pieces.

[KGs Knee]

Just say no!!!!!


To DeAndre Jordan

I don't see a better alternative that a team would be willing to give up for kg and Pierce.

My point is, I'd rather have the cap space than the player.  Jordan is not a player a rebuilding team should be spending $10m on.

[heitingas]

This works before and after July 1st, Why just hand them Pierce for free ?

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6280865

[BleedGreen1989]

Just say no!!!!!


To DeAndre Jordan

I don't see a better alternative that a team would be willing to give up for kg and Pierce.

Same. PP and KG are not bringing back what Boston fans will consider "equal value"

At worst, he's a 25 year old athletic center on an expiring $10mill deal. Doesn't sound so bad to me.

[Fan from VT]

I still only do it if at least 1 first rounder is reverse-protected (guaranteed top 14).

[ParquetPreoccupation]

Pierce is most likely getting bought out by the Celtics. I don't know why anyone believes that he has a lot of value to the Celtics. They essentially can't afford him under the new CBA. Also, I can't understand why anyone wouldn't jump at the opportunity to trade KG (37 years old) for an athletic young 7ft Deandre Jordan. Danny shouldn't be playing hardball here. Take that deal and run.

[AB_Celtic]

Someone explain to me why DeAndre is so terrible. Sure, he's overpaid, but what strong, athletic, 8ppg 8rpg center isn't?

I think this is a great return on a 36 year old and 37 year old. That said, I still might not do it for sentimental reasons, but in a vacuum, this is as good as we're gonna get.

[JSD]

Just say no!!!!!


To DeAndre Jordan

I don't see a better alternative that a team would be willing to give up for kg and Pierce.

My point is, I'd rather have the cap space than the player.  Jordan is not a player a rebuilding team should be spending $10m on.

I'm with you to a certain extent, but just remember that DJ is only 25. After free agency shakes out a bit, Ainge could trade dj for an expiring and a pick, or to a team that could just absorb him and a pick. So something is better than nothing. I firmly believe this guy could net a 1st rounder, albeit an over the cap playoff team would likely be our trading partner looking for his services.