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Re: Celtics/Clippers trade scenarios via ESPN's Larry Coon
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 01:48:51 PM »

Offline KGs Knee

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Someone explain to me why DeAndre is so terrible. Sure, he's overpaid, but what strong, athletic, 8ppg 8rpg center isn't?

I think this is a great return on a 36 year old and 37 year old. That said, I still might not do it for sentimental reasons, but in a vacuum, this is as good as we're gonna get.

Watch any Clippers game and tell me who is on the floor in the fourth quarter.  Hint: It's not DeAndre.

He's a "luxury" player, the type of guy you can afford to spend money on if you're already close to being a legit contender, and need that one peice to put you over the top.  That is not what the Celtics would be.

If we take on Jordan, Ainge best be prepared to move him quickly, for other assets.

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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 01:50:34 PM »

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Someone explain to me why DeAndre is so terrible. Sure, he's overpaid, but what strong, athletic, 8ppg 8rpg center isn't?

I think this is a great return on a 36 year old and 37 year old. That said, I still might not do it for sentimental reasons, but in a vacuum, this is as good as we're gonna get.

Watch any Clippers game and tell me who is on the floor in the fourth quarter.  Hint: It's not DeAndre.

He's a "luxury" player, the type of guy you can afford to spend money on if you're already close to being a legit contender, and need that one peice to put you over the top.  That is not what the Celtics would be.

If we take on Jordan, Ainge best be prepared to move him quickly, for other assets.
good point. im trying to understand who deandrew is, and whether he is a legit starting center in the game.

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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 01:52:26 PM »

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Someone explain to me why DeAndre is so terrible. Sure, he's overpaid, but what strong, athletic, 8ppg 8rpg center isn't?

I think this is a great return on a 36 year old and 37 year old. That said, I still might not do it for sentimental reasons, but in a vacuum, this is as good as we're gonna get.

i love it
him running the floor with bledsoe and rondo and jeff

ab and lee take those corner 3s
come on man

are you guys kidding me?

Re: Celtics/Clippers trade scenarios via ESPN's Larry Coon
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 01:54:03 PM »

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Someone explain to me why DeAndre is so terrible. Sure, he's overpaid, but what strong, athletic, 8ppg 8rpg center isn't?

I think this is a great return on a 36 year old and 37 year old. That said, I still might not do it for sentimental reasons, but in a vacuum, this is as good as we're gonna get.

Watch any Clippers game and tell me who is on the floor in the fourth quarter.  Hint: It's not DeAndre.

He's a "luxury" player, the type of guy you can afford to spend money on if you're already close to being a legit contender, and need that one peice to put you over the top.  That is not what the Celtics would be.

If we take on Jordan, Ainge best be prepared to move him quickly, for other assets.

the only reason to this is because people love playing hack a DJ. as with most centers, he sucks at free throws.

this only happens when the game is on the line.

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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 01:55:40 PM »

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Just say no!!!!!


To DeAndre Jordan
I don't see a better alternative that a team would be willing to give up for kg and Pierce.

My point is, I'd rather have the cap space than the player.  Jordan is not a player a rebuilding team should be spending $10m on.

That cap space is useless to us next year. Its not as if we are going to be competing for a championship next year, we are going to be rebuilding. Why not let the athletic 25 year old get a chance to continue to develop with more minutes and a larger role?

If it doesn't work out we can always trade him on to another team, height and size are always at a premium. I'm sure at the deadline we could find a team looking to bolster their front court and give us some assets in return or at the very least some expiring deals. For example theres like a 75% Bogut hurts himself between now and then.

I don't like Jordan's game. I hate that he is useless in the 4th quarter, but I don't see any other excellent options out there. We might as well collect assets.

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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2013, 01:58:53 PM »

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You guys are nuts if you think Jordan is a player to build around, he's not.

I can understand taking him on as an asset to be moved later, but not as a piece to keep.

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2013, 01:59:50 PM »

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Someone explain to me why DeAndre is so terrible. Sure, he's overpaid, but what strong, athletic, 8ppg 8rpg center isn't?

I think this is a great return on a 36 year old and 37 year old. That said, I still might not do it for sentimental reasons, but in a vacuum, this is as good as we're gonna get.

I think some of the same people who call Deandre Jordan overpaid also considered paying Perkins what he gets now a good deal.

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2013, 02:01:07 PM »

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You guys are nuts if you think Jordan is a player to build around, he's not.

I can understand taking him on as an asset to be moved later, but not as a piece to keep.

No one is arguing for building around Deandre Jordan or Eric Bledsoe. It's about acquiring young assets for a future deal. The other option is to lose KG and Pierce for nothing.

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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2013, 02:03:29 PM »

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You guys are nuts if you think Jordan is a player to build around, he's not.

I can understand taking him on as an asset to be moved later, but not as a piece to keep.

No one is arguing for building around Deandre Jordan or Eric Bledsoe. It's about acquiring young assets for a future deal. The other option is to lose KG and Pierce for nothing.

thank you
not building around him
just using a guy we get in a potential trade.

so what he doesn't have a jumper? don't you guys complain t hat we don't have enough paint presence and take too many jumpers in the first place?

yall got to get out with that stuff. a 25 year old who still has room to be great is much better for a rebuilding team than a 37 year old who probably has dust for ankles.

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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 02:03:37 PM »

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You guys are nuts if you think Jordan is a player to build around, he's not.

I can understand taking him on as an asset to be moved later, but not as a piece to keep.

No one is arguing for building around Deandre Jordan or Eric Bledsoe. It's about acquiring young assets for a future deal. The other option is to lose KG and Pierce for nothing.

I've seen more than a few posters claim he would be a great fit with Rondo, Green etc..

Anyways, I've said my peace on the matter.  If we get him, I hope he is moved for other assets, asap.

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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2013, 02:04:29 PM »

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Someone explain to me why DeAndre is so terrible. Sure, he's overpaid, but what strong, athletic, 8ppg 8rpg center isn't?

I think this is a great return on a 36 year old and 37 year old. That said, I still might not do it for sentimental reasons, but in a vacuum, this is as good as we're gonna get.

Watch any Clippers game and tell me who is on the floor in the fourth quarter.  Hint: It's not DeAndre.

He's a "luxury" player, the type of guy you can afford to spend money on if you're already close to being a legit contender, and need that one peice to put you over the top.  That is not what the Celtics would be.

If we take on Jordan, Ainge best be prepared to move him quickly, for other assets.

Okay, that makes sense. So he has a glaring weakness, but that still doesn't change that we're getting some very talented young pieces in exchange for guys who are going to be walking out on the sport in one or two years.

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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2013, 02:06:39 PM »

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His foul shooting is what makes him useless.  Hack a Shaq will work on this kid, he is a 42%  FT shooter.  That just plain stinks.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3442/deandre-jordan

Rebounds wise and the like he is very similar to Perk, in his first five years.

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2013, 02:09:03 PM »

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Getting a big is tough.
I think it's stupid to get a guy like DJ and then trade him for what? more guards?
no gracias

sign Pietrus in free agency. Get another cheap guard (or just keep Terry) and call it a day.

this summer we are talking about getting rid of the core. getting ride of doc, kg and pp. i dont see the sense in having a firesale on everything everywhere.

keep those guys and get to practicing and if something great comes along. do it. if not, let's go.

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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2013, 02:10:18 PM »

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Pierce is most likely getting bought out by the Celtics. I don't know why anyone believes that he has a lot of value to the Celtics. They essentially can't afford him under the new CBA. Also, I can't understand why anyone wouldn't jump at the opportunity to trade KG (37 years old) for an athletic young 7ft Deandre Jordan. Danny shouldn't be playing hardball here. Take that deal and run.

Of course the captain has trade value. He would have got us josh smith but atlanta wanted another 1st

The buy out option makes no sense. I dont think we even save that much even if he is bought out

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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2013, 02:11:36 PM »

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Pierce is most likely getting bought out by the Celtics. I don't know why anyone believes that he has a lot of value to the Celtics. They essentially can't afford him under the new CBA. Also, I can't understand why anyone wouldn't jump at the opportunity to trade KG (37 years old) for an athletic young 7ft Deandre Jordan. Danny shouldn't be playing hardball here. Take that deal and run.

Of course the captain has trade value. He would have got us josh smith but atlanta wanted another 1st

i think the idea is that he doesn't have exact trade value
so if we send his 15million contract out, we aren't getting 15 back. i say at this point, we'd be lucky to get 10 back.