When the same people who go into full outrage mode over stories like this, start reacting the same when they see Hollywood make fun of Christians, then I'll believe they have some credibility. Until then, outrage like this is nothing more than a hypocritical stance born out of the personal desire to feel good about one's self, or just a want to be liked.
If you believe there is a right not be offended, the you need to apply it all things deemed offensive to all people with equal fervor.
I thank you for assuming I'm not Christian, or that gay people aren't Christian. It's that type of remark that is completely not open to dialogue which is the problem with this country, and also why threads like this get sidetracked. There's no reason to be off-topic. Religion wasn't mentioned once in this thread prior to you.
Ummm I never called out anybodies faith. I just made a point about the double standard in this country. I'm also not turning this into religious debate as another said.
I'll use another example of the double standard. Where was the outrage when Rex Ryan was being made fun of for his foot fetish? Nobody defended him or demanded apologies.
The overall point I'm making is there seems to be selective outrage and apology demands.
If people are going to seize the moral high ground, they should be.prepared to be challenged.
The Rex Ryan comparison is terrible:
A. There were tons of people who said "no big deal" or even said "hey, good for them to have that level of attraction and chemistry."
And, much more importantly,
B. The discussion around Ryan generally consisted of what would variably be described as teasing, curiosity, etc., while gay people fall under public criticism its generally as worse than beasts, pedophiles, going to hell, subhuman, inhuman, responsible for natural disasters, etc. Its a little different, and you should know that.
Secondly, Christians as a peoplenare just not victims in this country, hence the "double standard." Like it or not, until things are equal, the dominant class is "allowed" to be critiqued. And, generally, the white christian male agenda or perspective is still the default one. It is changing, slowly, but people who see white/christian/male general victimization are NOT seeing subjugation, but are rather witnessing the fall from assumed/implicit/default dominance or privilege back toward (but definitley not yet reached) equal say. And its painful-no one likes to give up stuff to which they are accustomed- but going from super dominant to kind of dominant still is not victimhood.
So because they are not victims, it's ok to make demeaning statements about them? Thanks for proving my point. And how are gays being subjugated exactly in this country? Are they not allowed to vote, work, peacefully assemble, have sex the way they want? Are people allowed o beat and murder them without fear of punishment?
Like I said, there is no credibility in an argument that says one group acne be made fun of and one can't be.
As far as Rex goes, do you think jay leno would still be employed if he made the same joked about homosexual activities as he did with Ryan's fetish? I think you know the answer to that, which only further proves my point about the existence of a double standard.
Please show me, in a news report from a major media source, the last time someone was physically assaulted for being Christian in this country. Or murdered. It happened just weeks ago to a gay couple in the village in NYC, one of the more "gay-friendly" places out there, for being gay.
I grew up Christian my whole life, in a public school no less, and I never once had to hear anyone insult me for my faith. Wasn't something I even had to worry about. The gay kids in school? Hardly. And even if they weren't insulted directly, they had to hear homophobes like me make anti-gay jokes all the time, not very different from the one Hibbert made. Was I trying to be funny? Sure. But was it just a form of passing down the bullying that I was receiving from others (for reasons never identified -- but probably because I was there and unable to physically defend myself) to people who were even more marginalized than myself? Absolutely. And Christians aren't marginalized. There are churches everywhere, and you can go into them without worrying what people think of you. You can pray before your meal at a restaurant and not worry what people think. You can wear a cross necklace, or some other expression of your faith. But be two men holding hands walking down a street? You can try not to worry, and depending where you are, maybe you'll worry less, but you'll worry. Mention that you volunteer at your church to one of your coworkers? Can't be fired for that. Mention that your thinking of getting married to your same-sex partner to your coworker? In many states, you can get fired for that. Gay people are still marginalized, orders of magnitude more so, than Christians. (And don't even get me started on gay Christians, or gay black Christians.) Do I like Book of Mornon? No, I thought it was offensive, and when my friends asked if I wanted to go, I told them no, and I told them why not. (And I'm not Mormon.)
But this thread isn't about how Christians are or are not offended, persectuted, or whatever. It's about how Roy Hibbert said a homophobic remark, and about how some people don't find that as homophobic or wrong. For once, Christianity has nothing to do with this thread, so please stop bringing it up.
Thank you.
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