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Offline celticslove

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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

Sully is one of the best defenders on our team.
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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

Sully is one of the best rebounders on our team.

Fixed it for you.

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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

Sully is one of the best rebounders on our team.

Fixed it for you.

Advanced statistics say that Sully is the second best defender on this team after KG. Sure he fouls a lot, but he gets to the right spots and he doesn't give up baskets. I'm not sure Sully is a starter yet, but I do consider him better than Bass.

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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

Sully is one of the best rebounders on our team.

Fixed it for you.

Advanced statistics say that Sully is the second best defender on this team after KG. Sure he fouls a lot, but he gets to the right spots and he doesn't give up baskets. I'm not sure Sully is a starter yet, but I do consider him better than Bass.

Cool.  Didn't know that.  TP.

Still doesn't change my stance on Sully.  Whenever he was on the floor, I knew he was going to hustle, rebound, and take up space, but I also knew he'd be a weak spot in the defense.  Teams attacked him because of his size (or lack thereof), and at times, we suffered.

I do agree that he's better than Bass.

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I think Bass is a useful player, but Sully can potentially become an impact player.

I would not be opposed to moving Bass, but only for something of need, not a straight salary dump.
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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

Sully is one of the best rebounders on our team.

Fixed it for you.

Advanced statistics say that Sully is the second best defender on this team after KG. Sure he fouls a lot, but he gets to the right spots and he doesn't give up baskets. I'm not sure Sully is a starter yet, but I do consider him better than Bass.

What advanced stats--the defensive rating that has Bradley as the 16th-best defender on the team this year?

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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

Sully is one of the best rebounders on our team.

Fixed it for you.

Advanced statistics say that Sully is the second best defender on this team after KG. Sure he fouls a lot, but he gets to the right spots and he doesn't give up baskets. I'm not sure Sully is a starter yet, but I do consider him better than Bass.

What advanced stats--the defensive rating that has Bradley as the 16th-best defender on the team this year?


I dug deep. Finally found it by remembering Marquis Daniels was on the top of the list.

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/308646138255396864/photo/1

Bradley is 2nd on the list. Some anomalies but it's good company. Even if you discount the stat a little he's still pretty good...

ESPECIALLY when you consider where he was at the start of the season (unable to stay on the floor due to poor defense, and I'm not just talking about his foul rate).

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we're not drafting a big in a draft that is weak and worst of all dry of bigs. thats a good combo to end up drafting someone worse than fab melo.

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Only if you have to pair him with something too good to get another team to take him.

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Depends entirely on what we are getting back for him. Its impossible to say otherwise.

If your question is how important is Bass to us right now? Immensely. We need every tall guy we can get.

Shav and White are not the solutions to any of our problems. At best they may be able to eat up minutes or more likely be used in trades this summer

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Boston lacks a starting big outside of KG.  Nobody else on their roster is a starting-level talent at the PF position.

Trading Bass won't make that situation any better.

  Sullinger's a starting-level talent if he plays as well as he did in January next season.

Not if he keeps fouling at an incredible rate.
rookie treatment. i believe he can and will control the foul rate he had this season, and i also believe that he will be better than bass, base on bball iq alone.

For every "rookie treatment" foul Sully got called for, two or three actual fouls were committed.  Sully is not a good defender.

Now, that might change next year, but for now, he's not a starting-caliber PF.  Neither is Bass.

  Look around the league, you'll find starting bigs that aren't as good as Sully.

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we're not drafting a big in a draft that is weak and worst of all dry of bigs. thats a good combo to end up drafting someone worse than fab melo.

Dry of bigs?  Maybe at the top, but not in the mid- to late-1st round.  I think they could do better than Fab or 3J in the same position--and yet they'll be drafting a bit higher this year.

That's not to say that they'll take a big, but it's a pretty good year for that given their place in the draft.

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Celtics team will break down without big to stand under hoop force rebound collect blocks
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